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Dragon Quest Heroes |OT| - The World Tree's Woe and Some Heroes We Know
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Sounds great. Looking forward to going home and trying it out.
Anyone else feel a little let down by the music in this game?
It's great to hear the classic tunes and all, but I find the simplistic midi tracks to really clash with the visuals. The symphonic soundtrack to Dragon Quest VIII was so integral to the epic feel of that game for me. Hearing the DQVIII battle theme so stripped down when Jessica and Yangus look better than ever is jarring.
I realize fully orchestrated music in-game is not the norm for this series, but I suppose I just expected them not to go backwards. And after all, there are symphonic versions of all of these tracks out there... why not just use them?
It's great to hear the classic tunes and all, but I find the simplistic midi tracks to really clash with the visuals. The symphonic soundtrack to Dragon Quest VIII was so integral to the epic feel of that game for me. Hearing the DQVIII battle theme so stripped down when Jessica and Yangus look better than ever is jarring.
I realize fully orchestrated music in-game is not the norm for this series, but I suppose I just expected them not to go backwards. And after all, there are symphonic versions of all of these tracks out there... why not just use them?
Well I think Bianca is way overpowered, but in a good way I think.
She is prepared for people aren't into action game at all but still want to beat this game.
He was DLC boss originally so what do you expect
But seriously any side quests used to be DLC in Japanese version should make people feel like difficulty has spiked all the sudden.
She is prepared for people aren't into action game at all but still want to beat this game.
He was DLC boss originally so what do you expect
But seriously any side quests used to be DLC in Japanese version should make people feel like difficulty has spiked all the sudden.
nikos
Member
Testing out my stream. Check it out if you're bored! Should hopefully look decent and run at 60 FPS. Need to buy a new mic.
http://www.twitch.tv/heartofbattle
http://www.twitch.tv/heartofbattle
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
They should have just used their orchestrated albums. I still listen to them time to time.
robotzombie
Member
So about the minimedals you get for killing 500 of each monster, you can cash them in when you only kill 100 or 200 or whatever and get the rest as you kill more right? Its not like a one time cash in?
Second to that, what is the best stuff to buy with minimedals?
Second to that, what is the best stuff to buy with minimedals?
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Yes, you can cash in the same monster multiple times at each milestone.
Also someone else in the thread suggested waiting until you can afford the good weapons from the mini medal vendor, especially if you're going for the platinum trophy.
Only western version of DQ8 had orchestrated music. They are straight out from live concert and are copyrighted separately (since they were played & recorded by independent symphony, not SE employee).
I assume they could use that soundtrack again, but that would jack up the retail price of the game..
TheSpoiler
Member
I'll do a big writeup in a second, but for now, here are some general tips that apply to all characters.
- Play on their strengths. My Dorian is buffed to the brim with Defense, allowing him to tank even more than he would normally be able to. That let's him use a bunch of skills without having to worry about death or losing too much health.
- That being said, it doesn't hurt to throw a few in to help them out. My Dorian also has a single buffed up MP allowing him to cast vimstone more often.
- Learn what skills go with what. Detness Boost raises your critical chance, right? Well, throw on some Critical Impact, that increases attack, and you'll have the latter happening more often.
- The character exclusive area can give some tips as to what to put where, but it's not a hard rule.
- Late in the game, up your dodge window. You are going to need it.
Who do you use the most, derwalde? I could start with them to help you out.
Dead Prince
Banned
just give everyone much HP and def. and let them all be tanks.
Yes, absolutely. Hearing a very bland, trumpety DQ3 overworld theme on a 45 second loop every time I go back to the hub world is pretty annoying.
TheSpoiler
Member
Another tip. Blocking DOES matter. A lot of people aren't too happy with how block is done, but the upside is you can block way more than you think. In fact, one of the bosses becomes far easier if you employ some blocking.
Anyway, I'll just start with my current team.
Luceus
He has the whole attack attribute filled out, almost all of the MP, almost all of the Defense, and 3 segments in Wisdom. This allows him to hit hard, cast spells without worrying about the drain too much, and stay in the battle for a while. The Wisdom helps with the spell damage, but we'll get to that in second.
I also dumped a point into HP because why not.
His Special Effects are
Deftness,
Artful Dodger which allows him to have a better dodge window,
and Best in Tension.
Next, let's talk about those Exclusives.
Inferno Slash Extender
Rebuttal (helpful on bosses that shoot shit, and it does decent damage enough for it to be effective),
Increase in Strength,
Powersaver, which gives a discount on casting spells.
Finally, I bought all of his spells. You should be doing this for all characters once you hit level 30ish.
The end result is a main character doing great damage, able to take more hits than usual, spells that do decent damage when he needs to clean up mobs or for weaknesses, and most importantly, always getting buffs when he gets criticals, which come out more because of the Deftness Boost. The last thing I'll focus on doing is pushing up Deftness to Burst.
He's also tension focused too, as I have some items, but I'm not so ingrained in the accessory area that I know what to do with that.
Very reliable and well rounded character.
Alena
Buffed out her Strength to 4 out of 5
One in MP (to cast spells more)
Three in Defense. She's a glass cannon on the melee side, so it helps to boost that area.
She hits super hard, can cast her ORAORORAORA attack a bit more, and can hang in there when she normally couldn't.
As for SEs:
Best in Tension. Always have this. Can't stress it enough.
Deftness Boost
Critical Impact
Critical Cover. She has a problem with Defense, so any time you can get that up without having to sacrifice points elsewhere is a godsend. Plus, they stack, so you can have attack and defense going at the same time.
Exclusives:
Multifist Multipler is a boss killer. All those hits on a weakened boss plus with the increase of criticals can make short work of bigger foes and bosses.
Divide and Conquer, because you basically always want to be in Divide as much as you can.
Divide Booster for the same reasons as above.
Feel the Burn puts that damage received to good use.
Knockout Knuckle Sandwich increases the chance for a crit on hit with that move. Great way to start out against a stationary boss.
My Alena is all about damage, some crits when she can get them, and boosting her defense on those crits. I stay in Divide as much as I can, because that's where she shines the best.
Anyway, I'll just start with my current team.
Luceus
He has the whole attack attribute filled out, almost all of the MP, almost all of the Defense, and 3 segments in Wisdom. This allows him to hit hard, cast spells without worrying about the drain too much, and stay in the battle for a while. The Wisdom helps with the spell damage, but we'll get to that in second.
I also dumped a point into HP because why not.
His Special Effects are
Deftness,
Artful Dodger which allows him to have a better dodge window,
and Best in Tension.
Next, let's talk about those Exclusives.
Inferno Slash Extender
Rebuttal (helpful on bosses that shoot shit, and it does decent damage enough for it to be effective),
Increase in Strength,
Powersaver, which gives a discount on casting spells.
Finally, I bought all of his spells. You should be doing this for all characters once you hit level 30ish.
The end result is a main character doing great damage, able to take more hits than usual, spells that do decent damage when he needs to clean up mobs or for weaknesses, and most importantly, always getting buffs when he gets criticals, which come out more because of the Deftness Boost. The last thing I'll focus on doing is pushing up Deftness to Burst.
He's also tension focused too, as I have some items, but I'm not so ingrained in the accessory area that I know what to do with that.
Very reliable and well rounded character.
Alena
Buffed out her Strength to 4 out of 5
One in MP (to cast spells more)
Three in Defense. She's a glass cannon on the melee side, so it helps to boost that area.
She hits super hard, can cast her ORAORORAORA attack a bit more, and can hang in there when she normally couldn't.
As for SEs:
Best in Tension. Always have this. Can't stress it enough.
Deftness Boost
Critical Impact
Critical Cover. She has a problem with Defense, so any time you can get that up without having to sacrifice points elsewhere is a godsend. Plus, they stack, so you can have attack and defense going at the same time.
Exclusives:
Multifist Multipler is a boss killer. All those hits on a weakened boss plus with the increase of criticals can make short work of bigger foes and bosses.
Divide and Conquer, because you basically always want to be in Divide as much as you can.
Divide Booster for the same reasons as above.
Feel the Burn puts that damage received to good use.
Knockout Knuckle Sandwich increases the chance for a crit on hit with that move. Great way to start out against a stationary boss.
My Alena is all about damage, some crits when she can get them, and boosting her defense on those crits. I stay in Divide as much as I can, because that's where she shines the best.
I know it was only the Western version (and now the 3DS version), but it was a major step forward for the series and a huge improvement in the atmosphere of that game. I don't think they should be taking the graphics forward and the sound backward.
Even my girlfriend commented on the bland midi-like music, and she doesn't even game much.
Dead Prince
Banned
After downloaded it will pop up on screen saying you received said item.
May take awhile for it to see. To be honest it's just for.show. after like a few hours it becomes weak lol
TheSpoiler
Member
Always happy to help. I'll have more in a few moments, but you can always respec your characters if you feel like they aren't done properly.
I'm pretty much going down the same path as TheSpoiler, main Luceus with Alena always along for her massive damage. I can't stress buffing her defense and strength enough.
I use Isla for fights with a lot of status effects, as she can cleanse them. She also does a lot of work on her own, knocking down large groups of mobs with Twomerang, and can deal huge damage to groups in a pinch by gathering them with her Woosh abilities then popping a flame bird thing on them, and Twommeranging them when they fall down.
I take Doric along when there's a fight that needs a lot of damage to be dealt quickly, since he can increase the rate of tension-building for the entire party.
Kiryl is good fights where I want to stand and brawl without worrying about taking damage. With the accessory that negates knock back when struck equipped on Luceus it works out quite well. Though I find him lacking overall otherwise.
The rest I just mix and match for fun.
I use Isla for fights with a lot of status effects, as she can cleanse them. She also does a lot of work on her own, knocking down large groups of mobs with Twomerang, and can deal huge damage to groups in a pinch by gathering them with her Woosh abilities then popping a flame bird thing on them, and Twommeranging them when they fall down.
I take Doric along when there's a fight that needs a lot of damage to be dealt quickly, since he can increase the rate of tension-building for the entire party.
Kiryl is good fights where I want to stand and brawl without worrying about taking damage. With the accessory that negates knock back when struck equipped on Luceus it works out quite well. Though I find him lacking overall otherwise.
The rest I just mix and match for fun.
Dead Prince
Banned
Why can't I hold all these horse manure
Yeah the slow run speed is one of my gripes but it is also because I am use to Musou games being faster.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Your character actually blocks before the shield is raised. I dont know why the animation is so slow
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I have the slime edition sadly I wish the weapons leveled with you or something they are barely better than what characters start with
UserNameStolen
Member
I would love a code. Thanks either way.
I'm gonna be streaming for awhile. I'm a ways into the story for spoilers sake. PSN ponnimus. http://www.twitch.tv/ponnimus
Please be nice, im not the greatest at this game
Please be nice, im not the greatest at this game
Looks like it's selling very well in France. (Amazon.fr chart)
See, Square Enix, there is still DQ fans in the West! Can we get the other games now?
See, Square Enix, there is still DQ fans in the West! Can we get the other games now?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
He's the best
Got the game on Wednesday but only had time to start 'er up earlier today. I've only got as far as the first base after you leave the castle but the game seems pretty fun. It's my first Musou. Weird thing about the controller speaker going at the same time as TV, guess I'll have to turn that off.
I'm off to play a little more tonight. I want to get more party members for tomorrow's EXP+ event (that's Saturday and not Sunday, right?).
I'm off to play a little more tonight. I want to get more party members for tomorrow's EXP+ event (that's Saturday and not Sunday, right?).
His is by far best and certainly the funniest.
Damn, as I thought. Emma Ferguson didn't return as Jessica. She is instead voiced by Jaimi Barbakoff, who for those who don't recongize is the voice of Triss Merigold in the second and third Witcher games. Amusing, seems she's typecasted as red-headed fantasy sorceresses now. I'm gonna miss Emma in the role, I think the last time I heard her was as that mute (she speaks telepathically) girl from Castlevania: Lords of Shadow.
GarciaHotspur
Member
Is not the game too easy ?
I only played few hours though..
I only played few hours though..
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
gundamkyoukai
Member
So i beat the game today and now i am doing post game content .
some stages are crazy hard lol
some stages are crazy hard lol
GenericJoe
Member
Is it possible to change the main character in newgame+ or would you have to start a brand new file to play as the other?
IdreamofHIME
Member
The game keeps playing when you press the home button?
I've never seen this happen before in a PS4 game...what kind if nonsense is this? *slurp*
I've never seen this happen before in a PS4 game...what kind if nonsense is this? *slurp*
Manac0r
Member
Enjoying the game so far but just wondering:
1) Does pacing pick up? I'm only a couple hours in (2) and all the start / stopping is a little distracting.
2) I assume maps get bigger and more complex?
I most likely am still in the tutorial mode. The hack and slash mechanics feel good and the tower defense elements give it purpose. Happy with my choice.
My biggest problem is dividing my time between this and Disgaea 5. First world problems baby.
1) Does pacing pick up? I'm only a couple hours in (2) and all the start / stopping is a little distracting.
2) I assume maps get bigger and more complex?
I most likely am still in the tutorial mode. The hack and slash mechanics feel good and the tower defense elements give it purpose. Happy with my choice.
My biggest problem is dividing my time between this and Disgaea 5. First world problems baby.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Most games do, some automatically pause.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
Just started it, I'm really enjoyining my time. It's a Dragon Quest Lite, very easy to get in, lite RPG elements, nice art style (wonderful lighting), funny to play hack & slashing!
Too bad music is all recycled from past titles, given the budget I thought they were going for new music and new arrangements so it's a bit akward.
Too bad music is all recycled from past titles, given the budget I thought they were going for new music and new arrangements so it's a bit akward.
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