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Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake removing main character genders
Rran
Member
Are there people pushing for this Type A/B thing specifically? I've only actually seen it in video games from 2020 onward and it's super weird. It doesn't match the way people actually speak at all, so why do it?
I'm not going to boycott the game over it since DQ is fantastic and DQ3 in particular is a classic, but it's nonsensical and it bugs me.
I'm not going to boycott the game over it since DQ is fantastic and DQ3 in particular is a classic, but it's nonsensical and it bugs me.
The last few Squenix games (like Harvestella) maybe, but I think it's new for DQ. The most recent game I know of that let you pick your gender is DQ Builders 2 from 2019, which still says "Choose your gender, Male/Female". Unless one of the DQX updates or spinoffs (like DQX Offline) did it, but they're not localized so I dunno.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Yea bro what’s the problem with getting rid of objective reality
Dirk Benedict
Member
Man.. why do they have to work with Sweet Baby Inc? The money they are paying those assholes, we could get something else! Maybe, pay the devs to add more content to the game or something? Shit, even a dev bonus would be better than paying those ShitGods.
LectureMaster
Gold Member
It's true that it wouldn't be a game breaking change or jeopardize the enjoyment of the game content.
The problem is that it is completely unnecessary and illogical, only to pander a retarded ideology. And you know those mobs, give them an inch and they certainly will take a lightyear.
Hogwarts and Stellar Blade already proved that those retards don't really have any power over games sales whatsoever, yet those fucking publishers still bite one after the other.
The problem is that it is completely unnecessary and illogical, only to pander a retarded ideology. And you know those mobs, give them an inch and they certainly will take a lightyear.
Hogwarts and Stellar Blade already proved that those retards don't really have any power over games sales whatsoever, yet those fucking publishers still bite one after the other.
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Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Is this in the Japanese game as well or just localized version by a bunch of blue-haired weirdos?
Saber
Member
It shouldn't be a problem, but the more people act like this is nothing or it won't be affecting their enjoyment(which is true to an extent), the more power you give them to move foward with this shit. Similar thing happened with microtransactions that leaded to Star Wars Battlefront 2 fiasco.
Keep ignoring this and before you know it, your character will be androgynous.
Keep ignoring this and before you know it, your character will be androgynous.
Boss Mog
Member
Yeah, it's no big deal, just the destruction of human civilization...
Bring Back Scalebound
Banned
I don't know how those words are seen as offensive, when the terms female and male don't contradict the identity of trans people, at all...
It's known that trans women are biologically male, and trans men are biologically female.
It's just completely irrelevant, and it's factually not an argument to invalidate their identity. Trans women are women, trans men are men, regardless of their sex.
Either way, I don’t care about this beyond just rolling my eyes.
I will just pay attention to the localization, because I know they won't help themselves to include "hip" terms, and whatever progressive fan fiction hack garbage, because localizers still don't understand that they aren't writers. They are just a sub-category of translators.
It's known that trans women are biologically male, and trans men are biologically female.
It's just completely irrelevant, and it's factually not an argument to invalidate their identity. Trans women are women, trans men are men, regardless of their sex.
Either way, I don’t care about this beyond just rolling my eyes.
I will just pay attention to the localization, because I know they won't help themselves to include "hip" terms, and whatever progressive fan fiction hack garbage, because localizers still don't understand that they aren't writers. They are just a sub-category of translators.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Yes, but was this a localization thing or are they even calling it Type A and Type B in the Japanese version?
DaciaJC
Gold Member
I'm not sure, but seeing as the source article is written in Japanese, I wouldn't be surprised if the change is universal.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
High fantasy setting completely devoid of any reference to actual reality, developer bends over backwards to implement a very clear and radical political statement from our world, that is very time and place dependent on top, making sure the game will be laughed at by all people in a couple years time when the fad has gone and they came to their senses. Good job.
Fabieter
Member
It's no reason to not play the game but it's still stupid.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
No one is denying the logic behind calling it “Type A & Type B” is dumb but it also super petty to skip entire game over it.
It didn’t effect my enjoyment playing Elden Ring and its not gonna effect when I play this game.
ahtlas7
Member
You’re asking them to answer you but they have no part in making the decisions. They see something happening that is abnormal and question why. They don’t know the destination because they didn’t draw the map.
Someone should answer why we need gender removal, instead of, why can’t gender removal just be accepted.
Fabieter
Member
Absolutely the thing is that there is no logical reason to do so besides following some politcal trends but as long as it stays on this level it wouldn't hinder my enjoyment either.
March Climber
Member
You don’t need to be a top level decision maker to make a standard level prediction. People do it all the time when asked about consoles.
yazenov
Member
Absolute clowns trying to cater to the mentally ill "modern day audiences" who won't even buy their games anyways.
Square Enix and other companies should ditch Sweet baby inc and other clown DEI companies that pushes such agendas for ESG points. And remember who their audiences actually are. Their bread and butter who supported them and are still the majority of their consumers.
And the people who says it's not important who cares? Well why the fuck do they care to change this stupid shit in the 1st place? Yes now you got your answer. They care as in they/them/it care. So they can sleep well at night.
Square Enix and other companies should ditch Sweet baby inc and other clown DEI companies that pushes such agendas for ESG points. And remember who their audiences actually are. Their bread and butter who supported them and are still the majority of their consumers.
And the people who says it's not important who cares? Well why the fuck do they care to change this stupid shit in the 1st place? Yes now you got your answer. They care as in they/them/it care. So they can sleep well at night.
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Honestly, what were the perpetually offended going to do if Square gave the main character a gender? Not buy the game? Puhleeeeze. What else do these losers have to live for other than consumption?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I identify as type C I can't believe they aren't inclusive of me.
Who will join me to boycott this game?
In all seriousness I don't really care.
Who will join me to boycott this game?
In all seriousness I don't really care.
ahtlas7
Member
What do you think the end goal is?
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I don't care too much, but seeing this makes me worry about the english translation.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
That's my underlying concern, too. It's kind of hard to imagine them changing this, but not mangling the actual script. But hey, that's just "localization", or so I'm told.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Yeah, that’s even a bigger worry. Going to wait and see what is happening there. Might grab either Japanese or Asian Pacific version off Play Asia instead if they tank it.
Portugeezer
Member
That's fine, and it's the least offensive way to be "inclusive" whilst still being male/female.
What Pokemon did by also making women look like transgender orangutans was diabolical.
What Pokemon did by also making women look like transgender orangutans was diabolical.
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Hrk69
Member
Yes. You don't want to offend the alphabet people ofcourse. You'll get canceled if you do.
I Love Rock 'n' Roll
Member
As someone who played trans and queer or fight against them in SNK's games since the 90'S, I don't get why people care, or even worse, think they have to care.. And now, even Terry is a girl! And you know what, it's fun! Trans people are so bad ass!
Long Capcom fans could say the same I guess, or even Nintendo fans... You know, Final Fight, Pokemon, The King Of Fighters, Art of Fighting, Super Mario USA and so many more...
Long Capcom fans could say the same I guess, or even Nintendo fans... You know, Final Fight, Pokemon, The King Of Fighters, Art of Fighting, Super Mario USA and so many more...
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Shifty1897
Member
The idea is that some players want to look like a male character but identify as a female character and vice versa. Now they can choose a body type without claiming to be a specific gender.
I don't get it either but this is the least offensive way to do it, it's not going to hamper my enjoyment of the game at all so whatever.
Truthtellers
Neo Member
Preorder cancelled.
LazyParrot
Member
Fun fact: from what I remember the main character is treated as male in the NES and GBA localizations no matter which gender you pick. This was done because unlike in English, you can get away without using any gendered speech at all in Japanese, so the programmers did not include an option to change lines depending on the character's gender and the translators had to stick with either male or female. They chose male.
IIRC they even added new lines to the game explaining this, stating that the main character was raised as a boy and is thus seen and treated as male by everyone, including themselves, meaning the localization team was technically rewriting characters to be trans 30 years before it was cool.
IIRC they even added new lines to the game explaining this, stating that the main character was raised as a boy and is thus seen and treated as male by everyone, including themselves, meaning the localization team was technically rewriting characters to be trans 30 years before it was cool.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
The inverse of this is also true though.
"You can choose Male or Female"
"I choose Male he is obviously much stronger and more powerful"
"He isn't"
Sojiro
Member
Same here. If it's just this change whatever I guess, it's still fucking stupid to change it like this IMO. I will probably hold off buying this right at release and wait to see if anything pops up about any translation fuckery.
Synless
Member
One of those examples is an objective, the other is subjective.
Fact of the matter is Type A and Type B is some cult shit. SE has been slowly going down this rabbit hole and it’s sad to see.
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Lunnarre
Neo Member
You only play as Erdrick/Loto in the third game as it's a prequel. You play as his descendants in the first two.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Yeah… I get it that we only have so many hours in the day to be outraged about shit, and that most people won’t boycott over something like this. But that doesn’t mean you need to just shut the hell up and play it without complaining.
Some people are trying a little too hard to rationalize this stuff away because they can’t stand to let even the slightest bit of negativity to pollute their hype
The Mad Draklor
Member
Hope I'm not too late to play bingo:
Jack Videogames
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