flyinpiranha
Member
You cared enough to post. I'm glad you take an interest in my purchases. It's a bit weird, but hey.
Driveclub PS Plus Edition Delayed by Server Issues
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You cared enough to post. I'm glad you take an interest in my purchases. It's a bit weird, but hey.
But not to those who paid.
dugdug
Banned
That'd be fine. All they need to do is post that on the PS Blog. As of right now, it's an official statement by the dev, not the pub. That's not enough, for me.
I don't even give a shit about Driveclub. For me, it's more about the miscommunication. Driveclub's issues are *not* as big of a deal as it was when PSN was hacked, but, after the way Sony waited forever to let us know, we should never, ever let them slide on miscommunication again.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Let's try to understand why the "crazy posts" are popping up. THAT is Sony's fault. They left us in the dark all day yesterday. If they had responded right away and said something in their blog post, the conspiracies would have no credence. Sony handed people the opportunity to speculate. It's their own stupidity to blame.
Vigilant Gambit
Member
As someone who has had PS+ since day one, PS+ has not always had free games.
This made me laugh more than it should.
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
Banned
Feels like this is only not up because the game isn't very good, and they're trying to get as many sales from the uninformed.
Maybe I'm just sensing extra bullshit from their previous excuse of delaying the game because of the menus.
Maybe I'm just sensing extra bullshit from their previous excuse of delaying the game because of the menus.
Interesting point, could be.
You are on the gaming side of a gaming forum. Weird complaint mate.
Hades Hotgun
Banned
Its weird that with the PS4, Sony seems to be having a lot of trouble hitting on all cylinders on the actual first party gaming side of things.
Knack was not terribly well received. Killzone and Infamous were not standouts among their series counterparts. The Order has drawn extensive criticism either for the belief that it will barely be a game, or at least that it has been presented that way. Driveclub was delayed and the PS+ edition was downgraded and is now late, while servers are failing for the full release.
They had so much goodwill after E3 2013, they have done so well with marketing and selling the system, yet somehow the meat and potatoes of gaming has been fairly half baked (I'm hungry, so food metaphors).
Indies are the lifeblood of the PS4 right now, MLB The Show seems to have done well, and they are benefiting from last gen remasters. But otherwise, I feel like they keep coming up short of delivering on the promise of bringing back the feeling of the original Playstation.
LBP3 and Bloodborne will hopefully deliver, so I'm not entirely pessimistic here, but this Driveclub news is definitely disappointing. It just makes them seem overwhelmed and unprepared to execute what they presumably planned as their strategy with the PS4.
In a way I suppose there is a silver lining here. If Driveclub PS+ Edition was available, I would be playing it and might not have given Pix the Cat, Dust, and Spelunky a try.
Knack was not terribly well received. Killzone and Infamous were not standouts among their series counterparts. The Order has drawn extensive criticism either for the belief that it will barely be a game, or at least that it has been presented that way. Driveclub was delayed and the PS+ edition was downgraded and is now late, while servers are failing for the full release.
They had so much goodwill after E3 2013, they have done so well with marketing and selling the system, yet somehow the meat and potatoes of gaming has been fairly half baked (I'm hungry, so food metaphors).
Indies are the lifeblood of the PS4 right now, MLB The Show seems to have done well, and they are benefiting from last gen remasters. But otherwise, I feel like they keep coming up short of delivering on the promise of bringing back the feeling of the original Playstation.
LBP3 and Bloodborne will hopefully deliver, so I'm not entirely pessimistic here, but this Driveclub news is definitely disappointing. It just makes them seem overwhelmed and unprepared to execute what they presumably planned as their strategy with the PS4.
In a way I suppose there is a silver lining here. If Driveclub PS+ Edition was available, I would be playing it and might not have given Pix the Cat, Dust, and Spelunky a try.
autoduelist
Member
Because the vast majority of us are perfectly fine calling them free. I consider them free. I know I pay $0.41 per game --- though as I probably save more than the sub price a year just on ps+ sale discounts, I could actually argue the ps+ games -are- free for me.
Arguing against the use of the term 'free' is silly, it's like telling your buddy that a 'buy 1 get 1 free' sale actually means you're just getting 50% off on both... no shit, sherlock.
People calling them 'free' understand they aren't free. But it's the word we universally adopted to mean "not quite free but almost free because even though we pay for a service we get piles of piles of games included for a nominal per-game charge'.
I can't believe I got roped into this stupid conversation again. Nevermind, I'll go enjoy all my free games while a small minority of people complain that I call them free.
Seriously perfect.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
They get more sales from the 'informed'. Only those that haven't played it and believe the reviews are 'uninformed'.
GenericUser
Member
This sucks, Driveclub is THE Major PS+ release I was interested in this month. Glad its "not that bad" and "I blow things out of proportion". Thanks internet for keeping me calm.
Caterer advertises on their website for an entire year that their service will include cinnamon rolls with the rest of the service. People really want these cinnamon rolls but after a delay and little communication it turns out that the cinnamon rolls will eventually be coming later but you can go ahead and pay for them now to have it. People get fed up. A riot ensues. The building is burnt down. The catering company is no more. Chef Kaz must then go work for Gordon Ramsey.
dugdug
Banned
If the caterer was repeatedly telling me, for a full year, that I'd get free cinnamon rolls, and, then showed up without the cinnamon rolls, then, no, I wouldn't hire them again.
And no one's saying "burn Sony to the ground." We're saying they need to be accountable.
It's a bonus game they promised yesterday and waited almost 24 hours to tell us why we wouldn't be getting it on time.
Zalusithix
Member
You can pay for them and get them now, but they're only half baked. =P
This thread has been entertaining for me in a lot of ways. The defenses, the rage, the sarcasm, the double-secret stealth-unless-you're-following-everything-closely sarcasm, it's all great!
While I can't tell yet, I wonder how much entertainment the PS+ version of Driveclub will give me compared to reading threads like this...
CambriaRising
Member
Who is burning Sony's building down? I see people who are upset about not getting what they paid for, on a message board, not serial arsonists.
A lot of the frustration comes from the NA PS Store team blundering time and time again with putting up content for the last 10 years. I'd venture to guess people wouldn't be as upset if they weren't screwing up every single Tuesday. Also the inability by the company to just give people the head's up yesterday when they absolutely knew they were going to delay it. We still don't have a date for this version, is it next Tuesday? Tomorrow? Next month? No one knows and that's a problem.
Neuromancer
Member
Really? That's weird. Maybe a regional thing. Playstation Plus launched in NA on June 29, 2010 the first IGC game was Wipeout HD on the same day.
The hunger is too much though, almost everyone would gladly accept that half-baked cinnamon roll
autoduelist
Member
Call me old fashioned, but I believe in personal responsibility. If a delay of a free* game causes me to post crazy within 24 hours, then I'd argue it's my craziness/impatience/irrationality at fault, and not Sony's fault.
Put it this way -- If all I have to do is stay silent to make someone freak out, I don't think it's my fault if they freak out all the time.
Zalusithix
Member
The hunger is too much though, almost everyone would gladly accept that half-baked cinnamon roll
And then complain they got food poisoning.
Absolutely. Not to play the Microsoft too game but did people think the 360 version of Titanfall really needed 3 extra weeks of polish? Bullshit. They wanted as many XB1 sales as possible just like Drive Club wants as many sales as possible before giving the game away for free on PS plus.
IAmRandom31
Banned
dugdug
Banned
Is my memory fucked, or did we not get PS1 and Minis?
Vigilant Gambit
Member
I was totally wrong. I confused PS+ with the Qore subscription service.
Starting to think about selling my PS4... Nothing exclusive to play at this time and I don't see anything on the horizon that is going to change that. Drive club seemed interesting when they promised it as a full game at launch, because it ment only having to buy one launch game and getting a 'packed in game' right away. That didn't happen, at all. And now this? Kind of done with Sony being incompetent. After they hit big at E3 2013 they became quite arrogant in my humble opinion and didn't put the care and effort which got them at this point. Hope they really change their ways in the upcoming months.
who gives a fuck honestly. i'm paying for plus and the servers are worse than the ps3.
Rain City Gamer
Member
Props for the creative response but the repairman is already scheduled to fix your stove for free...it's just going to take a couple of days while he works on a couple of other stoves for tenants who actually paid him for the repair.
People in this thread are acting like they will starve without their stove and should get it fixed for free before another customer that paid for the repair.
And then complain they got food poisoning.
It's fine as long we were aware of the food poisoning beforehand.
aaand this is where the analogy breaks down.
I agree.
I'm also going to sell my PS4. I'm tired of having no games. Me and PS4 can have a reconciliation when Nathan Drake arrives. Until then, I have to put my foot down.
Seriously - this 'first world shit' is getting getting very tiresome.
Its a service. Its continually broke. This thread you have entered is about this. People are annoyed that the service they are paying for is unreliable.
You pay for things and dont complain if a company stiffs you? Good for you chump.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
You seem to be advocating for a passive and unresponsive consumer. Personal responsibility here is frankly irrelevant Not that the conspiracies are good things, but it remains Sony's fault. They put out info about all the other PS+ titles. They mentioned the release of DriveClub itself. But they never said anything specifically about the PS+ version. That's terrible PR, that's terrible consumer relations. Any backlash they get remains entirely their own fault. They're a big corporation. They should know better.
Zalusithix
Member
Vire
Member
Who do you think bankrolls Evolution's servers? Whose ultimately responsible for the financing of it and ensuring that there is enough servers to maintain a smooth launch?
I'd sell it.
That seems likely.
In an amusing twist the reality of the situation is that PS+ subscribers are being treated better than their retail customers. Sell a troubled game? "Sure!" Give away a demo to the troubled game? "Hold on. Let's put a little more work in and get it right over here first."
My man should try getting rid of some excess spit once in a while
Impeccable
Member
Pfft, you think Uncharted will save the PS4 from no game world? Delaystation will take effect, no game until 2016.
But...but...bloodbourne. and rime! And wild! And uncharted! I always view buying a console at launch as a long term investment. The ps3 was the same way and look how that turned out.
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This is the GOAT post. This entitlement BS is getting ridiculous. I'm completely aghast at the amount of people willing to let corporations walk all over them by not living up to the services they've been paid for.
Spectrasonic
Member
But those two things aren't really comparable. If Driveclub didn't even exist, would you still be paying for PSN+? Of course. This 'free' game is an extra for a service you already paid for.
And it was amazing .
Totally reasons to keep it, but a demo being delayed a day so far is cause enough to think about selling it. Sell it and be nuts about something else in your life.
I'll just have to consider it a long-term break from this emotionally damaging relationship.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Thats basically my feelings aswell. After E3 2013 I cant see Sony reacting as a "pro-consumer" again. It feels like they relaxed after that and are feeling too safe to move a finger now.
Will not sell my PS4 though, but thats definitely not the support I thought they would give this gen after that E3.
Impeccable
Member
Please consider purchasing the Xbox All-in-One Games and Entertainment System by Microsoft.
ComputerBlue
Member
Totally, they should fire all those responsible, Sony should lose many future sales even, they deserve to lose the console race now!
Right?