Driveclub "the new" footage in HD
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You really notice the motion blur plus dithering effect here 2:48 into the video... Dash in particular.
Just before
True, I wonder why the dithering is there?
On a side note, it's crazy to me that the headlamps are lighting the smoke realistically. Also noticed the lamp posts actually emit light in a realistic way. Also evident in this screen I posted earlier.
EDIT: Just noticed the shrubberies and vegetation to the right side are all fully geometric too.
Is there any AA at all? If not hen it is probably not added yet, or turned off in this build. It is a few months away yet, time for them to add AA and polish
Edit: could hat dithering be down to some kind of temporal blur? Like killzone but checkerboard rather than strips? So it lowers the number of pixels they need to process with heavy blur and hopefully you don't notice while playing?
SniperHunter
Banned
yea there is some AA in there for sure. The stuff near the car looks really clean, I think 2XMSAA perhaps?
Graphics Horse
Member
I thought maybe it involve a crosshatched version of what Killzone Shadowfall multiplayer does, but I haven't put any thought into it.
Maninthemirror
Banned
Its not as clean as infamous but anyone who thinks this is not one of the best looking next gen games in gameplay they really need to look again
Riderz1337
Banned
No offence but the only way you would compliment and/or buy this game is if it had the Xbox logo on the box art.
DangerMouse
Member
With you on both and yeah the lighting is stunning. And the sense of speed is fantastic.
You probably played the E3/Gamescom build, the AA problem isn't even close, on that build even road lines were awful.
http://driveclub.eu.playstation.com/es_ES/1080p
The green Maserati video.
Yea, it's considerably cleaner than back then. Really the bulk of the aliasing now is in the power lines. I'm sure they'll be able to sort that by release.
The aliasing has moved from being everywhere and mainly on the road (Gamescom), to being really only on the back of the car (October), to now really only being noticeable on power lines lol. I guess they're still tweaking.
djplaeskool
Member
Game isn't due out for 4 1/2 months, so plenty of work can be done.
Hell, Watch Dogs just went gold and that's out in less than two weeks.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Tha game looks fantastic. For those who just saw the Maserati video, I highly recommend watch the Pagani race. Both are amazing, but the Glenmorgan track seems a little better!
I would like to see a better AA treatment till release, but just if that mean that they will keep all the rest... otherwise, I'm happy with it that way. The tracks are very well done (theres no racing game that worked at them that much) and that lighting effects are top notch! The sense of speed is also great!
The frame rate is pretty stable too, I didnt noticed any frame rate problem there. It runs smoothly!!
Thats the experience I'm looking for in a racing game! Im really satisfied to see how much theyre working on this game.
I would like to see a better AA treatment till release, but just if that mean that they will keep all the rest... otherwise, I'm happy with it that way. The tracks are very well done (theres no racing game that worked at them that much) and that lighting effects are top notch! The sense of speed is also great!
The frame rate is pretty stable too, I didnt noticed any frame rate problem there. It runs smoothly!!
Thats the experience I'm looking for in a racing game! Im really satisfied to see how much theyre working on this game.
Always-honest
Banned
yeah i've been watching again. Good AA would make it insanely beautiful. It allready is, but the jaggies are ruining it a bit.
Dr.Bergenstein
Banned
Absolutely incredible lighting. Gran Turismo is going to have to blow minds.
The dithering is because the render quality of the motion blur is low. The previous builds had higher quality.
It's more apparent against dark backgrounds, so in this case during the night time racing vid you can see it more.
No motion blur
Low quality motion blur
High quality motion blur
http://cgi.tutsplus.com/tutorials/quick-tip-rendering-with-motion-blur-in-maya--cg-19263
i dont even notice it on powerlines, only on cars, especially inside when different lights reflect on edges... for powerlines to be noticable, game is too fast for me.
I'm pretty disappointed. The game seems not fun at all, uber generic and with no "souls", but I was still interested just at the technical performance.
And well, it's pretty annoying that efforts put on some very cool stuff (lightning, sky etc) are litteraly ruined by aliasing.
Now, my interest to the game drops to 0
. My opinion of course.
And well, it's pretty annoying that efforts put on some very cool stuff (lightning, sky etc) are litteraly ruined by aliasing.
Now, my interest to the game drops to 0
. My opinion of course.I'll have to second this. VLC always appears to make videos look markedly worse for some reason.
There doesn't appear to be much if any anti-aliasing going on though
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
It's without doubt the lowest quality I've seen on PS4 and l hope they improve it dramatically as it's ruining the visuals.
SniperHunter
Banned
Evolution have a history of late game polishing and all. Anyone remember this?
awesome game!
Yep, the dithering is very noticeable, especially in the road.
Made some comparisons just to show how hideous the youtube version are compared to these vids. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=819685
Made some comparisons just to show how hideous the youtube version are compared to these vids. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=819685
Pimpbaa
Member
The dithering is low quality transparency anti aliasing. You can apply this to games with the nvidia control panel on PC, but there is also higher quality super sampling for transparencies. I figured all games would be using alpha blending for their foliage because it looks so nasty without it. Hope this is fixed later along with proper AA for the whole scene.
edit: low quality blur too apparently.
edit: edit: oh wow, just noticed the low quality blur when they switch to an outside cam. Hope the image quality improves in the final product. It's not like the game is coming out soon.
edit: low quality blur too apparently.
edit: edit: oh wow, just noticed the low quality blur when they switch to an outside cam. Hope the image quality improves in the final product. It's not like the game is coming out soon.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Evolution have a history of late game polishing and all. Anyone remember this?
Green with bloom vs brown without bloom
The dithering is because the render quality of the motion blur is low. The previous builds had higher quality.
It's more apparent against dark backgrounds, so in this case during the night time racing vid you can see it more.
No motion blur
Low quality motion blur
High quality motion blur
http://cgi.tutsplus.com/tutorials/quick-tip-rendering-with-motion-blur-in-maya--cg-19263
I personally think the motion blur in the October build was much better. I know someone else on here disagreed, but I'll have to agree to disagree. Not that I'd really notice the dithering in racing, but the motion blur from the previous video just made the game look and feel slightly smoother overall. Though lighting wise I'd say this new build takes the cake.
The dithering is because the render quality of the motion blur is low. The previous builds had higher quality.
It's more apparent against dark backgrounds, so in this case during the night time racing vid you can see it more.
No motion blur
Low quality motion blur
High quality motion blur
http://cgi.tutsplus.com/tutorials/quick-tip-rendering-with-motion-blur-in-maya--cg-19263
Yeah its more like pixel smearing that actual blur.
Evolution have a history of late game polishing and all. Anyone remember this?
thats dragon age 2 on the right
See, thats what Im thinking with Driveclub...I dont care if its kinda pretty or super pretty, if they remember how to make the game fun like MSPR was, its all gravy. The online races in that game were so much damn fun...getting harrassed by monster trucks when driving a dirt bike...so good
Damn. The thing is, the new footage isn't without a boat load of compression either. We need Blim!
Evolution have a history of late game polishing and all. Anyone remember this?
lol! I can't BELIVE that you are STILL pulling that shit off. I demonstrated several times that this pic is complete and utter bullshit. Besides that even on THAT pic the supposedly WORSE build looks BETTER.
Some people just don't get it. It's hilarious. But believe your urban myth that Evolution is completly different to any other studioe and makes the game 100% better in the last few weeks.
Sure.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
I'm pretty disappointed. The game seems not fun at all, uber generic and with no "souls", but I was still interested just at the technical performance.
And well, it's pretty annoying that efforts put on some very cool stuff (lightning, sky etc) are litteraly ruined by aliasing.
Now, my interest to the game drops to 0
How do you put 'souls' into a driving game? The multiplayer contesting club rivalry is going to bring the spirit/soul/tulpa/whatever human element, not the graphics. It's not Mario Kart.
Reading your posts actually depresses me. You're always so fucking smug.
SniperHunter
Banned
same thing happened to motorstorm 1, the game looked like utter crap till tgs 2006
Jesus give the guys a break! This is by far the most excited I've been for a racer in as long as I can remember. Fully dynamic lighting, beautiful tracks (which we know to expect from Evo's history) and what looks like decent, tight racing. Now I've been really pissed at the radio silence on this game, but is it any wonder they don't want to release anything when they do release stunning footage and all you guys bitch about is power lines? Do you really look at fucking powerlines when you're driving at 150 mph?
Always-honest
Banned
No, but you'll notice the shimmering on your dashboard without a doubt.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Why the rage? Just explains why it looks better, and not worse.
It doesnt seem to me like that (and Im not even saying just because one have more green stuff).
The Mad Draklor
Member
If Evolution improves the AA and motion blur, then this game will look absolutely more gorgeous than it appears now. Can't wait to see the final build and their next games.
This one is special. People, especially nib95,are posting this pic constantly for years now to prove "something", whatever that is. Besides that they are simply wrong.
a) the game looks exactly like the supposedly worse build. You can, right now, go to your PS3, start PR, choose that track, set daytime to midday and what you see there is identical to what you see on the "qore" build. I pointed that out and proved it several times, nib95 knows that.
b) even without that prove, it would have made no fucking sense to relaese a worse, older build to convince the public to buy the game than the build they gave months before to the press. There is no chance in hell that would've happened.
c) even on these screens, the righ Qore build looks better. The lighting is just different because of a different daytime seeting. Everyone who actually played the game knows that.
PR Is probably my favorite arcade racer of all time, I played it to death. I even liked apocalypse. But that whole "Evolution is so amazing at polishing the last two weeks before relase" bullshit is simply a myth that is with GAF for 5 years now for NO reason whatsoever, except that people like nib95 are constanly posting that shitty pic and everyone goes like "ooooooooooohhhh the lighting".
Forza have a souls, Need for Speed, Burnout, WipeOut, Motorstorm has a souls.
I feel like this game have no "personality", it's just realistic cars with unrealistic driving, with generic environment. I feels no "little something" that attract me, this something which says "i'm not just a racing game, I bring [insert something cool]".
Need for speed bring speed, burnout bring crazyness, Forza bring simulation, Motorstorm bring mud, Trackmania bring awesome rollercoaster tracks.
What bring DriveClub ? Sorry I don't see it yet. But it's may be just me, I complete respect people which find this game attractive. I just don't understand them for the moment.
FranXico
Member
A strong team multiplayer focus: it brings racing clubs, hence the name DriveCLUB.