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[Salmon]

Posted before? Then kill me...

Well...just download everything (legal?) from E3 2005.

E3 2005 demos

Software for your computer

Have a nice day!

 

[MrPing1000]

great now i have to buy a wireless router

 

[Akia]

OMG, Electroplankton is mine now!

 

[turok4n64]

do i have to have a flash rom to do this?

 

[Shiggy]

OMG, Electroplankton is mine now!

Is it the whole game?

 

[M3wThr33]

Can someone de-stupify the instructions?
I'd think all I'd have to do is disconnect from my router and run the rom to distribute it, but it doesn't seem that way.

 

[BuddyC]

Is it the whole game?

No, just one of the Planktons, which I believe makes it 1/10th of the game.

 

[sprsk]

damn i wish i had a wireless router

 

[Salmon]

OMG, Electroplankton is mine now!

"Played" it for ages now...and it´s freckin´ great.

 

[Alcibiades]

i have a wireless router

i need a wireless card on top of that router, right?

 

[turok4n64]

*totally confused*

how do i get this working?

 

[golduck342]

I don't think I have the right network card, but I'll try anyway.

 

[Nightbreeze]

Awww where's the mario kart demo?

 

[sprsk]

i have a wireless router

i need a wireless card on top of that router, right?

if your computer has a wireless connection it has a wireless card

 

[acidviper]

*totally confused*

how do i get this working?

Can someone translate this into noob english

 

[jgkspsx]

No, just one of the Planktons, which I believe makes it 1/10th of the game.

It's actually 1/4th of one of the planktons, which makes it 0.025 of the game.

All you need to do this is a wireless card with a specific chipset and special custom drivers. That's it. You can get one for 21USD or less.

 

[btrboyev]

worthless to about 90% of us who do not own a compatible card.

 

[Mejilan]

Awesome! Downloading!

 

[Nightbreeze]

why does nintendo not throw downloadable demo's online? it makes perfect sense no?

 

[Fularu]

This is illegal and I suggest people to edit the post, unless you want nintendo to come on hard on you

 

[Mama Smurf]

Fear Nintendo random forum poster!

 

[Salmon]

This is illegal and I suggest people to edit the post, unless you want nintendo to come on hard on you

How could it be illegal?

 

[SantaC]

This is illegal and I suggest people to edit the post, unless you want nintendo to come on hard on you

how is it illegal to download demos that Nintendo themselves allowed?

 

[jgkspsx]

Nintendo distributed these free to thousands of people at E3. The illegality of propagating the distribution further is extremely questionable.

 

[StrikerObi]

Ha, I knew this was going to happen as soon as they said they would offer downloadable demos at E3.

 

[Fularu]

They didn't

Those demo were "grabbed" at E3

Do you see a nintendo site offering them?

They were meant for e3, and that's about it, distributing them on the net is *not* legal

 

[Nightbreeze]

How the fuck do I get this to work? someone pleas help, as I want to go gloat to my brother that I'm play goemon on ds.

 

[golduck342]

Does anyone have a flash cart and a passme to try it out with?

 

[Drakken]

Um, so after downloading this, what program do I need to use in order to run these files and get my DS to recognize them (assuming I have the necessary wireless card and stuff)?

 

[jgkspsx]

They didn't

Those demo were "grabbed" at E3

Do you see a nintendo site offering them?

They were meant for e3, and that's about it, distributing them on the net is *not* legal

I am overcome by your intensely concentrated legal knowledge.

If Nintendo is worried about it, they're not showing it. Firefly's site links to Nintendo's page on their anti-piracy policy. So let Nintendo handle the legal questions and stfu.

Thanks!

 

[ksinghsf]

worthless to about 90% of us who do not own a compatible card.

yeah, damn netgear...

 

[jgkspsx]

All the hardware you need to play these is a wireless card that uses the RT2560 chipset. No flash cart, PassMe, or other piece of equipment is necessary.
These are easily found in a google search. There are several lists. You can get one for US$25 including shipping, and possibly less.

All the software you need to play these is 1) a specialized driver that makes the card able to communicate with the DS and 2) a wireless multiboot loader.
Both are found in the second URL in the very first post in this thread.

This story is so Tuesday anyway

 

[Fularu]

I am overcome by your intensely concentrated legal knowledge.

If Nintendo is worried about it, they're not showing it. Firefly's site links to Nintendo's page on their anti-piracy policy. So let Nintendo handle the legal questions and stfu.

Thanks!

I don't care, european sites have been warned to take the files down

do as you wish

 

[Juice]

They didn't

Those demo were "grabbed" at E3

Do you see a nintendo site offering them?

They were meant for e3, and that's about it, distributing them on the net is *not* legal

Well, it's not explicitly illegal, either. It's up to Nintendo how they want to control their data.

However, two things point to this being legitimate:

1. Nintendo intentionally made it available wirelessly without any sort of password, encryption, or EULA (as far as I know). Anyone who saved a snapshot of what Nintendo was broadcasting was simply extending the broadcast beyond it's original scope (if Nintendo didn't want that to happen, they'd have to express that in an EULA, which I don't believe existed).
2. They're fucking demos man, designed to entice people to BUY software and create demand for games. Chill.

 

[nubbe]

All the hardware you need to play these is a wireless card that uses the RT2560 chipset. No flash cart, PassMe, or other piece of equipment is necessary.

Thank you

Ordered a compatible WiFi card

 

[Nightbreeze]

so uhhh can anyone tell me if my dell laptop has this chipset?

 

[fugimax]

There's a Belkin PCI wireless-g that uses this chipset for sale at Circuit City for $14.99 after $35 in mail-in rebates. I bought it the other day and it works great.

 

[golduck342]

Soo.... anyone know how to write or edit drivers?

 

[jgkspsx]

so uhhh can anyone tell me if my dell laptop has this chipset?

If you install the alternate drivers, your wireless card will not work for network access. You need a separate, dedicated wireless card for this unless you don't use your existing wireless card.

I don't care, european sites have been warned to take the files down

Those mirror sites are 80% European. Maybe they didn't get the memo.

Heh.

 

[TotalBastard]

You people do realize that in order to use the multi boot program you must MODIFY your Nintendo DS?

Not for me. I already played these demos at E3. I'm not fucking with my firmware.

 

[Juice]

If you install the alternate drivers, your wireless card will not work for network access. You need a separate, dedicated wireless card for this unless you don't use your existing wireless card.


Those mirror sites are 80% European. Maybe they didn't get the memo.

Heh.

You can just roll back the drivers though, right?

 

[Nightbreeze]

oh ok then, fuck this.

 

[jgkspsx]

You people do realize that in order to use the multi boot program you must MODIFY your Nintendo DS?

Not for me. I already played these demos at E3. I'm not fucking with my firmware.

Incorrect. They work just fine with any unmodded DS.

Don't pretend to be an expert when you're not.

Juice: Yeah, you can roll back the drivers without any problem. It's just that you don't want to have to swap drivers every time you play the demos.

... which, as good as Caduceus, Submarine, and Meteos are, will be more often than you think

 

[golduck342]

You people do realize that in order to use the multi boot program you must MODIFY your Nintendo DS?

Not for me. I already played these demos at E3. I'm not fucking with my firmware.

No, you don't. The only reason to modify your DS would be to be able to boot from a flash cart without a passthru. This technically is passthru so you don't have to.

 

[BuddyC]

I don't care, european sites have been warned to take the files down

do as you wish

Can you provide a source on this? Right now we're sitting in a grey area of the TOS, but if Nintendo or the ESA are asking them to be removed...

 

[jgkspsx]

The only reason to modify your DS would be to be able to boot from a flash cart without a passthru. This technically is passthru so you don't have to.

Well, kinda. If you want to broadcast homebrew games and demos (which aren't, obviously, signed with Nintendo's private key) to your DS, you need to reflash the firmware. The new firmware also allows you to boot directly from the GBA slot if you hold a button combination on boot and gets rid of that damn safety warning.

These demos are official, though, and are signed with Nintendo's private key. Therefore, they run on any DS.

 

[BuddyC]

The new firmware also allows you to boot directly from the GBA slot if you hold a button combination on boot and gets rid of that damn safety warning.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can do that on any DS. Just hold down the B button as you boot and it'll load from the GBA slot, even if you had a DS cartridge inserted as well.

 

[Mejilan]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can do that on any DS. Just hold down the B button as you boot and it'll load from the GBA slot, even if you had a DS cartridge inserted as well.

Just tried it now with FE, and no dice.

 

[TotalBastard]

You can only upload/execute (commercial) code that has been signed by Nintendo using wireless multiboot because the firmware verifies the 1024-bit RSA signature. It is impossible to generate our own signatures because we do not know the private key. However, it *is* possible to remove the signature check by modifying the firmware. This means that you will be able to upload/execute homebrew code without the need for a GBA flash cart on a modified Nintendo DS. Only downside is that you will need to modify your firmware first using passme/wifime and GBA flash cart.

Notice the word MODIFY?

 

[jgkspsx]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can do that on any DS. Just hold down the B button as you boot and it'll load from the GBA slot, even if you had a DS cartridge inserted as well.

I meant booting DS (homebrew) games from a flash cart

As far as I know, there's no way to run pirated commercial games on the DS (or on emulators) yet. Nintendo is very interested in changing that "yet" to "ever," which is fine with me. I just hope they leave hobbyist developers alone.