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Asobo

No; they recently got a lot of outside funding and have deals lined up with various publishers. That probably also includes Microsoft, but they'll remain 3P for a good while.

Supposing there's even any truth to this rumor, I'm gonna guess it's some of those WB Games studios, which would mean Microsoft's also worked out some deal for a few DC IP. Not ownership deals, but "very favorable" licensing exclusivity deals with those IP in gaming products.

If it's not WB Games, then crazy as it sounds my next guess would be Konami, since there's been word of them shopping around their IP to various companies. I can't think of any other publisher, Japanese or not, who's had those same rumors keep popping up over the last couple of months. I don't think they'll acquire all of Konami (aren't they still in the pachinko market?), but maybe a couple of their gaming studios and some of their IP.

Those are the only two realistic choices I can think of that'd fit the bill of a "major" acquisition. Yeah SEGA acquisition is a meme, but they're in a pretty good spot now and given moves like VF5: Ultimate Showdown (still need to download that), I don't see them getting acquired anytime soon.

You’re not actually surprised gamers like games out, coming soon, or with gameplay out more than they do another thread about Microsoft’s business of just buying shit, are you?

I don't think another acquisition (since the companies purchased tend to be looking for buyers anyway) is a bad thing, but I do agree that it needs to be balanced out with gameplay from major releases (preferably exclusive, 1P or 3P) coming out soon, and into 2022 yeah.

 

[Varteras]

Those big companies wouldn't be able to buy Sony or Nintendo certainly but they can buy a lot of the smaller publishers. It seems a future with more consolidation is more probable than without it.

Sony will also play that game if they want to keep being leaders. Can you imagine Google, Amazon or some other company making big third party games exclusive? Playstation games are really well received but I wouldn't bet a Sony-games only console would keep its current market share

Consolidation of some existing companies has happened but there are also new companies popping up. Dreamhaven is a perfect example. A bunch of former Blizzard devs and a co-founder starting a new big company that will not only develop its own games but publish them as well as partnerships it currently has with four brand new, independent studios. CDPR is now investing in acquisitions so it can become a big publisher as well. There have been plenty of new studios popping up. Some are completely independent. Others are in partnerships. Some are looking to be bought. Like Haven, Firewalk, and Ember Lab. Others, despite constant rumors, still maintain their independent status after all this time. Like Remedy and Supermassive.

Amazon and Google, assuming they bought anyone, would likely make third party, multiplatform games. Not exclusives. They may try to make exclusives for their own platforms after a major purchase but it wouldn't work. They would very quickly find themselves losing money and not really gaining any market share. Like I said, it is incredibly hard to get into this industry as a first party. There is a ridiculous notion that this industry is moving towards total consolidation and that no major third parties will remain soon. Because Microsoft bought a bunch of studios, many that needed the money, at a time when it desperately needed to expand its own first party because it was getting drowned out by Sony and Nintendo.

Some company gets bought and eventually some other company takes their place.

I suggest you have some lesson with American politics. All politics these days can be bought.

Nintendo and Sony have values. Maybe not for Google or tencent, but they have more value for Amazon. Sony has the movies. Nintendo has games which kids love. Either of these are too valuable for Amazon.
What amazon can do is strike a deal with Japanese government. Invest more in their country. And no country will deny the opportunity business their country will get.
Sony isn't just gaming, unlike Nintendo. So other sectors of Sony have more values to Amazon.

As for your Microsoft gaming point, they never had any invest in that sector. Or else, you have seen tons of buying studios from them, just like now. Hell, they stopped giving crap in 2014 e3, when they went all tv. Their main goal was other sectors. While Sony on other hand, had more experience (ps1).

At the end of the day, money Rules.

Microsoft tried to buy Nintendo years ago. They offered to buy Square. Hell, they recently offered $10 billion to Discord, who turned them down. Simply having money to spend doesn't get you what you want. Microsoft had a ton of studios prior to closing a bunch of them down last generation. They had to buy a bunch of new ones BECAUSE they closed a lot of the ones they had or consolidated them into other departments. Lionhead, Twisted Pixel, Press Play, Decisive Games, Good Science, Big Park, Lift London, Leap Experience Pioneers, Function, SOTA, Team Dakota. All closed or moved to other things not game related. Microsoft bought Mojang for $2.5 billion in 2014. Yes. Microsoft has invested plenty over the years. They're not just now seriously investing for the first time. This isn't a whole new Microsoft. This is them trying again.

As far as politics go, good luck with your beliefs that it's that easy.

 

[onesvenus]

So far ea, take 2, and ubisoft are what sells consoles, not their exclusive. 10m people might buy the consoles for their exclusive, but the rest buys for those games. Cod, Fifa are console sellers. And people buy the new consoles to play those games with their friends.
My little brother is using his ps5 for cod to play with his friends.

Exactly, that's what I'm saying. If consolidation keeps going Sony will also need to do it if they don't want to be starved of games. They won't be able to sell 100 million consoles without the next CoD, FIFA and Fortnite

 

[Spidey Fan]

Consolidation of some existing companies has happened but there are also new companies popping up. Dreamhaven is a perfect example. A bunch of former Blizzard devs and a co-founder starting a new big company that will not only develop its own games but publish them as well as partnerships it currently has with four brand new, independent studios. CDPR is now investing in acquisitions so it can become a big publisher as well. There have been plenty of new studios popping up. Some are completely independent. Others are in partnerships. Some are looking to be bought. Like Haven, Firewalk, and Ember Lab. Others, despite constant rumors, still maintain their independent status after all this time. Like Remedy and Supermassive.

Amazon and Google, assuming they bought anyone, would likely make third party, multiplatform games. Not exclusives. They may try to make exclusives for their own platforms after a major purchase but it wouldn't work. They would very quickly find themselves losing money and not really gaining any market share. Like I said, it is incredibly hard to get into this industry as a first party. There is a ridiculous notion that this industry is moving towards total consolidation and that no major third parties will remain soon. Because Microsoft bought a bunch of studios, many that needed the money, at a time when it desperately needed to expand its own first party because it was getting drowned out by Sony and Nintendo.

Some company gets bought and eventually some other company takes their place.



Microsoft tried to buy Nintendo years ago. They offered to buy Square. Hell, they recently offered $10 billion to Discord, who turned them down. Simply having money to spend doesn't get you what you want. Microsoft had a ton of studios prior to closing a bunch of them down last generation. They had to buy a bunch of new ones BECAUSE they closed a lot of the ones they had or consolidated them into other departments. Lionhead, Twisted Pixel, Press Play, Decisive Games, Good Science, Big Park, Lift London, Leap Experience Pioneers, Function, SOTA, Team Dakota. All closed or moved to other things not game related. Microsoft bought Mojang for $2.5 billion in 2014. Yes. Microsoft has invested plenty over the years. They're not just now seriously investing for the first time. This isn't a whole new Microsoft. This is them trying again.

As far as politics go, good luck with your beliefs that it's that easy.

The old Microsoft wasn't as focused as its now. Nintendo was prime example at that time. And they go laughed, which was perfectly reasonable at that time. Gaming wasn't big. Western were looking down on games, unlike now.

And since games these days brings billions of dollars, they won't stay quiet. Gamepass is first door now. Once its explode, we will see those behemoth coming to games. Films getting gaming license. And gaming not to be looked down as kids stuff.

Either way, I am just happy I am getting options now. The ps3/x360 transition to ps4/x1 was horrible. No backwards compatibility, and one company tried to turned away from gaming. Now, we have ps4/x1 games playable on ps5/xsx/xss. More games than ever.

 

[FranXico]

It reminds me of talks about time exclusivity - in 99% cases when people say that it is better than acquisition, they are planning to play it on the console that has that time exclusivity purchased.

Wrong. People say it's a lesser evil compared to acquisition because it objectively is. With timed exclusivity, at least everyone will eventually be able to play that game.

Quite the contrary, the only ones who liked the Bethesda acquisition are the childish petty hypocrites who rejoice at the prospect of entire game franchises being permanently taken away from a certain platform.

When Sony bought Insomniac, nobody celebrated taking Sunset Overdrive from Xbox. Because Insomniac already had a very long track record of working on several IPs with Sony. That's what people cared about. So, yes, "organic growth" is a real thing in Insomniac's case.
If Xbox fans wanted more SO games, they should have bought the first one more. Maybe then Insomniac would not have sold out to Sony either.

But I guess that would have required a genuine interest in games, not corporate cheerleading.

 

[massivekettle]

Wrong. People say it's a lesser evil compared to acquisition because it objectively is. With timed exclusivity, at least everyone will eventually be able to play that game.

Quite the contrary, the only ones who liked the Bethesda acquisition are the childish petty hypocrites who rejoice at the prospect of entire game franchises being permanently taken away from a certain platform.

When Sony bought Insomniac, nobody celebrated taking Sunset Overdrive from Xbox. Because Insomniac already had a very long track record of working on several IPs with Sony. That's what people cared about. So, yes, "organic growth" is a real thing in Insomniac's case.
If Xbox fans wanted more SO games, they should have bought the first one more. Maybe then Insomniac would not have sold out to Sony either.

But I guess that would have required a genuine interest in games, not corporate cheerleading.

Xbox sales of SO are irrelevant in the context of Insomniac accepting a Sony buyout as Microsoft published the game.

 

[Spidey Fan]

Wrong. People say it's a lesser evil compared to acquisition because it objectively is. With timed exclusivity, at least everyone will eventually be able to play that game.

Quite the contrary, the only ones who liked the Bethesda acquisition are the childish petty hypocrites who rejoice at the prospect of entire game franchises being permanently taken away from a certain platform.

When Sony bought Insomniac, nobody celebrated taking Sunset Overdrive from Xbox. Because Insomniac already had a very long track record of working on several IPs with Sony. That's what people cared about. So, yes, "organic growth" is a real thing in Insomniac's case.
If Xbox fans wanted more SO games, they should have bought the first one more. Maybe then Insomniac would not have sold out to Sony either.

But I guess that would have required a genuine interest in games, not corporate cheerleading.

Bethesda franchise weren't Playstation. That is common mistake people scream about it. Bethesda games are always pc. Same as cdpr games. First console for Bethesda was xbox.

Your best example would Spiderman. Something people ignore alot. Sony films owns the right for Spiderman. And if any dev wants to work on it, it would have be to be exclusives to Playstation console (avengers game).

And if we want to bring that crap, we might as well bring atlas (where is persona for switch and xbox). Sony doesn't own them, but their games are pretty much exclusive to Playstation console. Nobody cries about that. Same for final fantasy (cough cough ff7 remake).

There are other examples I can bring too. Bloodborne pc.

 

[Fess]

”I know something you don’t know tehee!”
Why is this a thing? It’s super annoying. Just say it if you know something.

I am more of worried about Amazon buying take 2 or ea. If they do it, that is straight to their cloud luna.

Future games are now bleak, since we have tencent, Microsoft, Google, and Amazon fighting. Sony or Nintendo have no legs in this fight, since they can be out right be bought, and nothing can stop them do that (I can see Microsoft unable to acquire those 2, but others can, and Japanese law can't stop them, since they can bribe their leaders).

I think it’ll be like with TV shows. You simply ignore some TV shows (games in this case) and move on with your life. It sucks but this is what’s happening.

I’m glad it’s Microsoft that’s buying at least, great hardware and you get games on PC too and on Gamepass, it’s the lesser evil no doubt. Imagine if Nintendo went out on a shopping spree

 

[Loope]

Wrong. People say it's a lesser evil compared to acquisition because it objectively is. With timed exclusivity, at least everyone will eventually be able to play that game.

Quite the contrary, the only ones who liked the Bethesda acquisition are the childish petty hypocrites who rejoice at the prospect of entire game franchises being permanently taken away from a certain platform.

When Sony bought Insomniac, nobody celebrated taking Sunset Overdrive from Xbox. Because Insomniac already had a very long track record of working on several IPs with Sony. That's what people cared about. So, yes, "organic growth" is a real thing in Insomniac's case.
If Xbox fans wanted more SO games, they should have bought the first one more. Maybe then Insomniac would not have sold out to Sony either.

But I guess that would have required a genuine interest in games, not corporate cheerleading.

There are also many people that just basically don't give a shit about a particular platform fans. At least there is a chance to play it another platofrm, other than a MS console and on the 1st day. Same thing can't be said about any of the competitors, so....

 

[KAL2006]

Honestly Sega would be perfect for Microsoft. They can have Sonic who would taken care of a perfect family friendly IP Microsoft need that they can sell with Series S, there are others also like Super Monkey Ball. They can release lower budget sequels for many Sega lPs similar to Streets of Rage 4 and Sonic Mania which would make perfect sense for Gamepass for a frequent amount of day 1 exclusive software on Gamepass without breaking the bank as the games would be lower budget but still appeal to alot of core gamers. Imagine a Golden Axe sequel similar to Streets of Rage, a new Jet Set Radio, Crazy Taxi and etc.

They can also have a lot of core Japanese type games on their system exclusively such as Yakuza.

And finally they can release their own version of Smash Bros and have a ton of Sega IPs to pull from. The inclusion of Sega IPs, Halo, Gears, Banjo, Bethesda IPs and etc they can have a roster of character whole not anywhere near as popular as Nintendo characters it definitely would be a good roster coupled with everyone getting to play for free on Gamepass, decent online netcode.

 

[Spidey Fan]

There are also many people that just basically don't give a shit about a particular platform fans. At least there is a chance to play it another platofrm, other than a MS console and on the 1st day. Same thing can't be said about any of the competitors, so....

If people were super pissed off about hzd, uncharted 4 coming to pc announcement, imagine the outrage those New ip would make, if they were announced for pc.

I would be there for the popcorn though.

 

[Spidey Fan]

Honestly Sega would be perfect for Microsoft. They can have Sonic who would taken care of a perfect family friendly IP Microsoft need that they can sell with Series S, there are others also like Super Monkey Ball. They can release lower budget sequels for many Sega lPs similar to Streets of Rage 4 and Sonic Mania which would make perfect sense for Gamepass for a frequent amount of day 1 exclusive software on Gamepass without breaking the bank as the games would be lower budget but still appeal to alot of core gamers. Imagine a Golden Axe sequel similar to Streets of Rage, a new Jet Set Radio, Crazy Taxi and etc.

They can also have a lot of core Japanese type games on their system exclusively such as Yakuza.

And finally they can release their own version of Smash Bros and have a ton of Sega IPs to pull from. The inclusion of Sega IPs, Halo, Gears, Banjo, Bethesda IPs and etc they can have a roster of character whole not anywhere near as popular as Nintendo characters it definitely would be a good roster coupled with everyone getting to play for free on Gamepass, decent online netcode.

They have KI. They can just put those characters on KI2. Buy iron galaxy too while at it.

 

[assurdum]

CDproject incoming. I expect it.

 

[EliTheIceMan]

Don't hate me for saying this but at this point anything MS buys is going down..... MS aren't artist they are conartist IMO ban me for this is you want but it won't change the way MS does business it's why nobody gives Windows the time of day anymore

 

[Hellmaker]

After years of taking slings and arrows (some deserved, much undeserved), whoever they buy, i truly hope it pisses a lot of people off.

Lot of crybabies out there always moving goalposts and setting different standards for what Microsoft is 'allowed to do' vs. other companies.

Go get 'em Phil!!! Bwahahahahaha

Haha so funny you saying crybabies, when deep inside you are also just a pathetic fanboy since you enjoy this so much

 

[assurdum]

Haha so funny you saying crybabies, when deep inside you are also just a pathetic fanboy since you enjoy this so much

Christ man.

 

[Spidey Fan]

Don't hate me for saying this but at this point anything MS buys is going down..... MS aren't artist they are conartist IMO ban me for this is you want but it won't change the way MS does business it's why nobody gives Windows the time of day anymore

If that was the case, I doubt good Playstation games would exist now. Hell, game market would have been dead. If it weren't for windows. All you spawn is a crap.
But I can understand. Microsoft was shit in the last gen. Now they saw their light with gamepass. A money making machine. I doubt they will stop the train now, and throw that golden money making machine.

Even if they stopped and quit gaming, it would be shit. Sony is getting lazy now. Look at their output now, compared to ps3. They had tons of genre. Now they only focus on certain genre. I hope they can just give us shooter game for once.

 

[SteelCurtain 59]

Wrong. People say it's a lesser evil compared to acquisition because it objectively is. With timed exclusivity, at least everyone will eventually be able to play that game.

Quite the contrary, the only ones who liked the Bethesda acquisition are the childish petty hypocrites who rejoice at the prospect of entire game franchises being permanently taken away from a certain platform.

When Sony bought Insomniac, nobody celebrated taking Sunset Overdrive from Xbox. Because Insomniac already had a very long track record of working on several IPs with Sony. That's what people cared about. So, yes, "organic growth" is a real thing in Insomniac's case.
If Xbox fans wanted more SO games, they should have bought the first one more. Maybe then Insomniac would not have sold out to Sony either.

But I guess that would have required a genuine interest in games, not corporate cheerleading.

Your last sentence spits in the face of the rest of your comment, as I see nothing but corporate cheerleading in your post. There are tons of reasons to love the Bethesda acquisition that have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not Sony fanboys get to play the game or not, but you probably conveniently don't believe in any of those because it doesn't agree with your agenda . Timed exclusives don't actually help anybody but the platform holder, acquisitions help the devs, and help the games get better. I would much rather Sony buy companies than do these stupid exclusive agreements THAT DON'T ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING BUT EXCLUDE PEOPLE. Nobody except fanboys are celebrating that Sony fans can't play any more Bethesda games. Yes it sucks that Sony fans won't be able to play Elder Scrolls 6 and Xbox fans will never get to play a Sunset Overdrive 2 (if it ever happens), but acquisitions actually give the devs more resources and time to make the games they really want, not to mention it helps all the other 1st party studios who now get to collaborate with those new studios. Also for Xbox specifically there's Game Pass so most people are happy that they get all Bethesda games Day 1 on Game Pass (and forever).

And for your nonsense organic growth aspect, Bethesda had almost as close a relationship with Xbox as Insomniac had with Sony but that doesn't count for reasons? The only difference is that Sony did their acquisitions earlier, you can try and spin it whatever way you want, I'm sure every studio Xbox bought will grow substantially over the next decade too, will that be organic growth or will the goalposts be shifted again?

 

[Hellmaker]

Christ man.

I don't care either way he just annots me is all.

 

[kingpotato]

The last independent developer trying to resist Microsoft:

How long until they publish the first "Only on GamePass" title?

 

[Genx3]

Know your history:

I think Bethesda was a great purchase by Xbox, they had a history of working together since before so it seemed like a pretty natural step.

What I’m arguing is that your primary motivator in the original statement was that it would ”hurt Sony” rather than a working relationship that produces good results and that you used a ”Sony started it” which is an argument I haven’t heard as a serious argument in a discussion since kindergarten. If an adult uses it it’s often in a less transparent and obvious way.

Before that when Ninja Theory was a company called Just Add Monsters or something like that they made Xbox exclusive Kung Fu Chaos which many Xbox fans would Love to see a sequel for...

 

[Spidey Fan]

Your last sentence spits in the face of the rest of your comment, as I see nothing but corporate cheerleading in your post. There are tons of reasons to love the Bethesda acquisition that have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not Sony fanboys get to play the game or not, but you probably conveniently don't believe in any of those because it doesn't agree with your agenda . Timed exclusives don't actually help anybody but the platform holder, acquisitions help the devs, and help the games get better. I would much rather Sony buy companies than do these stupid exclusive agreements THAT DON'T ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING BUT EXCLUDE PEOPLE. Nobody except fanboys are celebrating that Sony fans can't play any more Bethesda games. Yes it sucks that Sony fans won't be able to play Elder Scrolls 6 and Xbox fans will never get to play a Sunset Overdrive 2 (if it ever happens), but acquisitions actually give the devs more resources and time to make the games they really want, not to mention it helps all the other 1st party studios who now get to collaborate with those new studios. Also for Xbox specifically there's Game Pass so most people are happy that they get all Bethesda games Day 1 on Game Pass (and forever).

And for your nonsense organic growth aspect, Bethesda had almost as close a relationship with Xbox as Insomniac had with Sony but that doesn't count for reasons? The only difference is that Sony did their acquisitions earlier, you can try and spin it whatever way you want, I'm sure every studio Xbox bought will grow substantially over the next decade too, will that be organic growth or will the goalposts be shifted again?

Obsidian is prime example of xbox game studio on steroid. They are doing like 5 games now, since they got bought. Avowed, grounded, project mara, and 2 other games. They also did outer world. And dlc this year. Those Microsoft money is helping them make more games. Same as how Insomniac is doing insane lift for Playstation (Spiderman MM, Ratchet and clank).

Future Microsoft studios will be like that. And we will see one game this year. Double fine game which is releasing this year.

 

[killatopak]

(where is persona for switch and xbox).

Nintendo got SMT, the Q games and the strikers.

Xbox got SMT Nine but nobody bought them, even the Japanese didn't.

They actually tried contrary to popular belief.

 

[Kenshin775]

I kind of feel bad for Sega, Incomniac, Square/Enix because if MS announces they bought a major studio or IP like MGS then its going to get more views and clicks than anything about PSO2: New Genesis, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart or FF7 Intergrade . Three games that should be fantastic are coming out next week and it might be overshadowed by Pre-E3/Live E3 rumor/gossip and hype and announcements.

 

[CatLady]

If that was the case, I doubt good Playstation games would exist now. Hell, game market would have been dead. If it weren't for windows. All you spawn is a crap.
But I can understand. Microsoft was shit in the last gen. Now they saw their light with gamepass. A money making machine. I doubt they will stop the train now, and throw that golden money making machine.

Even if they stopped and quit gaming, it would be shit. Sony is getting lazy now. Look at their output now, compared to ps3. They had tons of genre. Now they only focus on certain genre. I hope they can just give us shooter game for once.

Dude, I love Game Pass too, but I seriously doubt it's a golden money-making machine at this point. Game Pass is awesome, but it probably breaks even or makes a small profit. No need to exaggerate.

I'm sure you mean well, but chill out, you're starting to sound like the Xbox mirror image of n00b uber Sony shill GuinGuin .

 

[Demon2blades]

Don't hate me for saying this but at this point anything MS buys is going down..... MS aren't artist they are conartist IMO ban me for this is you want but it won't change the way MS does business it's why nobody gives Windows the time of day anymore

90% of the pc market is Windows os based though everything from enterprise to home os's what a claim to make lol

 

[Spidey Fan]

Nintendo got SMT, the Q games and the strikers.

Xbox got SMT Nine but nobody bought them, even the Japanese didn't.

They actually tried contrary to popular belief.

What about now? Couldn't they just release it now?

The OG one makes sense, since it was xbox OG vs ps2. And Japanese weren't in New console, vs the ps2 or Nintendo console at that time.

Now is different. Hope they release it now on xbox. Add those games on gamepass, and get the money upfront, like the yakuza series.

 

[skneogaf]

Sony owns Bloodborne IP and Demons Souls too...

Which is why I spelt it with 3 letter o's and an extra e so xbox can have blooodeborne!

Master chief and father Gascoigne or should I say father Gasscoigne!

 

[PhaseJump]

Don't hate me for saying this but at this point anything MS buys is going down..... MS aren't artist they are conartist IMO ban me for this is you want but it won't change the way MS does business it's why nobody gives Windows the time of day anymore

They are a trillion dollar company. The way they do business is why they are successful. Windows is everywhere and is the desktop OS most used on home computers and enterprise workstations.

 

[reksveks]

They are a trillion dollar company. The way they do business is why they are successful. Windows is everywhere and is the desktop OS most used on home computers and enterprise workstations.

Was expecting the guy to add 'year of the Linux consumer os'. The blind hatred of some people.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Wrong. People say it's a lesser evil compared to acquisition because it objectively is. With timed exclusivity, at least everyone will eventually be able to play that game.

Not really wrong. It is exactly similar to going from who needs Xbox when you can play all their games on PC? to wait, MS, don't purchase publishers, I can't play those games With MS you can play the game for 15$ on everything that has screen or browser. I see no a big problem here. In comparison to Sony where people open champagne bottles if any new game appear in PS+ So in a sense, MS is saving money for you and make everyone (no 500$ gatekeeping) to experience the game day 1. In fact - people will eventually get Internet connection and will be able to play those games for cheap See what I did here?

Time exclusivity is akin dying by thousand cuts - it works for non competing market dynamic like console/PCs, but it is just as bad as full exclusivity for the competing markets. Epic is doing exactly the same thing for a reason - but the situation on PC is worse for them than for MS in console market. Sony has a huge market share in most of the markets but not everywhere, where on PC Steam is almost 90% of market share if not more. So we can laugh at Epic's pathetic attempts to moneyhat games but the fact is - these tactics are effective. It is just that it will take more from Epic to move the needle.

So time exclusivity is a cheap where to make franchises associate with the brand. If it was not effective - it would not be used.

 

[Spidey Fan]

Dude, I love Game Pass too, but I seriously doubt it's a golden money-making machine at this point. Game Pass is awesome, but it probably breaks even or makes a small profit. No need to exaggerate.

I'm sure you mean well, but chill out, you're starting to sound like the Xbox mirror image of n00b uber Sony shill GuinGuin .

I am just stating common sense. Honestly gamepass is what I care from consoles, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered with them. Pc is easy for me, since I use it for other stuff aside of gaming. While consoles are just for games. No value for me outside of that.

Gamepass is the only reason why I got x1s. My ps4 is the one I got for my little brother. He got ps5 now, so he has no use for it.

I am gamepass guy, because of the money I save, which allows me to invest on other stuff. Ea play pc was my sub before gamepass. I am not fanboy. I dont care about those 2 companies. They care 0 about me. They don't even know my existence. So I have no value praising them. But I will spread the words of gamepass to people, so they can save their money. We live in bad time these days. So financial is hard. And if there is anything that can save money, I will share with people.

The only thing gamepass lacks is some AAA games day1 exclusive. Few shake up, and sub will jump high. It won't happen for now, until e3 and starfield drop.

 

[ShaikhCroft]

Is Heavenly Sword IP owned by Sony or Microsoft owns it now?

If Sony owns it then can Ninja Theory make a Hellish Sword?

 

[Renozokii]

Sorry but how is ‘Mark Cerny has platinumed Returnal’ or ‘Horizon’s water spent years to make’ thread worthy?

Returnal is a video game that is out and known as difficult. It’s cool to see the guy that designed the console tackle one of its bigger challenges so far. Also it’s a nice narrative since he’s in his 50s. Cool to see an older gamer still go all the way with a really challenging game people half his age can’t get past the first boss of. If Phil got full gamer score in a souls game I’d wager that’d be pretty note worthy as well.

And I’m confused about your confusion on horizon? We just saw a gameplay demo of it where water was a big new thing and looked jaw dropping. A bit of insight into the difficulty getting it to work and how long it took seems like a pretty normal thread?

You really only proved my point. The threads are about games that are out, near out, or have gameplay out. There were several halo threads out when the game got revealed. No one was confused by that. When Xbox actually has some games out there will be plenty of discussion. We saw hard proof of a journalist bragging about playing so much Xbox and no PlayStation while having not turned his Xbox on in 2 weeks. I view this barrage of rumors as the same thing. Microsoft “leaking” everything and anything to stay in the news cycle since they have nothing else going on at the moment. All astroturfing.

 

[Dabaus]

In my opinion, this is the Hail Mary of Xbox insiders and influencers. One final chance to make it look like MS is about to take over gaming. This year we’ve seen it all, MS is about to buy your favorite developers. Konami, sqaure enix, kojima. We’ve seen article after article and influencer after influencer shill for gamespass, so much so it was almost as if there is a quota they have to meet by speaking the word to make it some sort of mk ultra trigger word. We’ve seen hit job after hit job from these same influencers go after Sony for focusing on aaa games while Xbox hasn’t had a new game in almost 2 years.

So now We’ve reached reality where rumors and heresay have to pay the piper. One final Xbox acquisition on the eve of e3. The influencers have tried their hardest for 6 months to derail Ps5s hype and build Xbox up but it just wasn’t enough and now we’re about to see a dud e3. Halos in such bad shape it’s rumored we won’t even see campaign gameplay. Avowed, hellblade, ever wild, said to be no shows. Fable and perfect dark, years away. Star field, 2023. So why not, another fake rumor to add to the pot of endless fake rumors before we see they’ve been lying and exaggerating for half a year.

Edit: Yes they could buy an ip but the people pushing this are already trying to set expectations that’s it a AA game at most but people are letting their imaginations run wild.

 

[Banjo64]

Returnal is a video game that is out and known as difficult. It’s cool to see the guy that designed the console tackle one of its bigger challenges so far. Also it’s a nice narrative since he’s in his 50s. Cool to see an older gamer still go all the way with a really challenging game people half his age can’t get past the first boss of. If Phil got full gamer score in a souls game I’d wager that’d be pretty note worthy as well.

And I’m confused about your confusion on horizon? We just saw a gameplay demo of it where water was a big new thing and looked jaw dropping. A bit of insight into the difficulty getting it to work and how long it took seems like a pretty normal thread?

You really only proved my point. The threads are about games that are out, near out, or have gameplay out. There were several halo threads out when the game got revealed. No one was confused by that. When Xbox actually has some games out there will be plenty of discussion. We saw hard proof of a journalist bragging about playing so much Xbox and no PlayStation while having not turned his Xbox on in 2 weeks. I view this barrage of rumors as the same thing. Microsoft “leaking” everything and anything to stay in the news cycle since they have nothing else going on at the moment. All astroturfing.

It’s not interesting is it though? He’s in his 50s wow, 1 foot from the grave then? Have you seen the list of games he’s worked on as designer, producer or programmer? I’d expect him to be more skilful than 90% of the people posting here.

So we already have a thread called ‘Horizon PS4 vs PS5 differences’ but yeah we need a completely separate one just spunking over water.

You find those 2 brilliant threads worthwhile, it doesn’t surprise me.

 

[FatKingBallman]

Bethesda franchise weren't Playstation. That is common mistake people scream about it. Bethesda games are always pc. Same as cdpr games. First console for Bethesda was xbox.

Your best example would Spiderman. Something people ignore alot. Sony films owns the right for Spiderman. And if any dev wants to work on it, it would have be to be exclusives to Playstation console (avengers game).

And if we want to bring that crap, we might as well bring atlas (where is persona for switch and xbox). Sony doesn't own them, but their games are pretty much exclusive to Playstation console. Nobody cries about that. Same for final fantasy (cough cough ff7 remake).

There are other examples I can bring too. Bloodborne pc.

Wrong!

 

[VAL0R]

How Phil feels when uncle Satya gives him $20(,000,000,000) in his birthday card to spend on Xbox games.

 

[Derift]

alot of shilling for a company with no track record of managing studios well... and yet you gys want the to acquire all these studios and IPs... how did that work for banjo??? or KI??? and comparing Bethesda with insomniac is stupid but yea whatever

 

[Spidey Fan]

Wrong!

Those aren't bethesda games. Those are published games. I am talking about specifically bethesda games. Their own IP.

 

[FatKingBallman]

Those aren't bethesda games. Those are published games. I am talking about specifically bethesda games. Their own IP.

Look at the developers. If they developed a game, then it is.

 

[FranXico]

Xbox sales of SO are irrelevant in the context of Insomniac accepting a Sony buyout as Microsoft published the game.

Insomniac would have been less inclined to pursue more deals with Sony (nevermind a buyout) if their venture with Microsoft had been successful.

 

[SteelCurtain 59]

alot of shilling for a company with no track record of managing studios well... and yet you gys want the to acquire all these studios and IPs... how did that work for banjo??? or KI??? and comparing Bethesda with insomniac is stupid but yea whatever

Comparing the Bethesda acquisition to the Rare acquisition 20 years ago makes it quite clear you're the one shilling and not the other way around. I understand Neogaf has had you trained that anything that's not criticizing Microsoft is a blind fanboy who's shilling, but that's just not true

 

[Spidey Fan]

Look at the developers. If they developed a game, then it is.

again they dont own the ip. ihra racing is the one that own the ip.

We are talking about doom, elder scrolls, fall out. Those are primarily pc games. not console. Xbox come in to picture with them on morrowind. Which didnt come to PlayStation consoles. Even with that, previous bethesda games are still locked on pc.

 

[Varteras]

No; they recently got a lot of outside funding and have deals lined up with various publishers. That probably also includes Microsoft, but they'll remain 3P for a good while.

Supposing there's even any truth to this rumor, I'm gonna guess it's some of those WB Games studios, which would mean Microsoft's also worked out some deal for a few DC IP. Not ownership deals, but "very favorable" licensing exclusivity deals with those IP in gaming products.

If it's not WB Games, then crazy as it sounds my next guess would be Konami, since there's been word of them shopping around their IP to various companies. I can't think of any other publisher, Japanese or not, who's had those same rumors keep popping up over the last couple of months. I don't think they'll acquire all of Konami (aren't they still in the pachinko market?), but maybe a couple of their gaming studios and some of their IP.

Those are the only two realistic choices I can think of that'd fit the bill of a "major" acquisition. Yeah SEGA acquisition is a meme, but they're in a pretty good spot now and given moves like VF5: Ultimate Showdown (still need to download that), I don't see them getting acquired anytime soon.



I don't think another acquisition (since the companies purchased tend to be looking for buyers anyway) is a bad thing, but I do agree that it needs to be balanced out with gameplay from major releases (preferably exclusive, 1P or 3P) coming out soon, and into 2022 yeah.

From what Jez was saying, if a studio acquisition did happen it is nothing like a Sega or Konami situation. It wouldn't be very hype inducing. Sounds like a smaller scale studio and/or IP. So I don't even think a Warner Bros studio is on the table. That all hasn't even been finalized yet in the transition to the new holding company last I heard.

 

[FatKingBallman]

again they dont own the ip. ihra racing is the one that own the ip.

We are talking about doom, elder scrolls, fall out. Those are primarily pc games. not console. Xbox come in to picture with them on morrowind. Which didnt come to PlayStation consoles. Even with that, previous bethesda games are still locked on pc.

But they've owned a license back then. Nevertheless, you can't say their first console was Xbox, which isn't true at all.

 

[Spidey Fan]

But they've owned a license back then. Nevertheless, you can't say their first console was Xbox, which isn't true at all.

Their main ip was elder scroll. Drag racing was a licensed IP. 2 different thing.

Its like saying EA owns the star war IP, when they are just licensing it. same for fifa.

 

[kinjx11]

 

[Spidey Fan]

 

[FatKingBallman]

Their main ip was elder scroll. Drag racing was a licensed IP. 2 different thing.

Its like saying EA owns the star war IP, when they are just licensing it. same for fifa.

Yes, true that. But their first console wasn't Xbox.