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DUKE NUKEM FOREVER |OT| Spank One For The Good Guys
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Chiggs said:
Oh no you did'int
Mr. Enigma
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Chiggs said:
Shots fired.
mickcenary
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Ha. Knowing that this game is the piece of shit that I perceived it to be upon its first showings makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Judging a book by its cover FTW.
ME FTW!
Did Not Finish FTL.
ME FTW!
Did Not Finish FTL.
Riposte
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DNF would get less heat if they sold it for 30 dollars or less.
Ben Kuchera is giving me douchechills. I am totally cool with him not liking the game(I don't like either), but he such a righteous blowhard. This game makes me feel dirty! Oh my, these backwards hateful jokes about women!
I think this has been answered already. You don't see the problem with judging a game's PR or trivia instead of its quality? Duke Nukem Forever is just a videogame, not something sacred. If you see DNF as something sacred then you are poorly equipped to analyze it.
Ben Kuchera is giving me douchechills. I am totally cool with him not liking the game(I don't like either), but he such a righteous blowhard. This game makes me feel dirty! Oh my, these backwards hateful jokes about women!
Neuromancer said:
I think this has been answered already. You don't see the problem with judging a game's PR or trivia instead of its quality? Duke Nukem Forever is just a videogame, not something sacred. If you see DNF as something sacred then you are poorly equipped to analyze it.
Painkiller Q8
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Bought it and returned it at the same day, very disappointed !
Riposte
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Choc said:ok
fair point
what i meant was in general the stories etc are trying to be more mature, maybe not gaming itself
I think using videogames for posturing is characteristic of immaturity(and shame), which is much worse than a game's story being "immature".
(Anyone should be able to understand why an "immature" story is beneficial - no baggage, willing to sacrifice superficial features for mechanical ones. On the other hand, a serious, mature storyline can seem like a waste of effort most of the time because it can lead to a lot of baggage and never divorces the fact you are flipping a thumbstick to make beep-boops and pretending to be someone else in a fake world.)
Combichristoffersen
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Choc said:
Insane. Sending out review copies of the absolute worst version of your multiplat game is practically begging for your game to be slaughtered by reviewers :lol
Choc said:
We have moved on to shooting space nazis in the face or sawing aliens in half with chainsaw guns. Maturity indeed
jizzlobber said:
There's just so much wrong with this post. You say that gamers are from a different generation and have forgot what to expect from Duke? So where's the open levels, the variety in weapons and enemies, and the fun and fast paced gameplay? Oh wait, sorry. We should only expect pissing out a Duke dick and lines from 80s action movies from Duke. So sorry, they got that shit down with this.
I admit, I think the reviews are focusing on the humour and how it offends and I think they're giving way too much time to that aspect. For me, it doesn't offend. It's just fucking lame. It's 2011; taking lines from the Evil Dead's Ash and every John Carpenter film just seems horribly lazy and dated. And when they can't back it up with gameplay, then the whole game is just a bizarre amalgamation of dated humour, the worst parts of old shooters and the worst parts of new shooters.
A lot has happened since Duke 3D. Think of the games that have come between these two titles. Every GTA, every Halo, every Valve game. First person shooters have evolved with titles like Deus Ex and System Shock 2 and then devolved with titles like CoD. Within this one genre, we have so much variety. There is no place for Duke today. He's a relic from the 90s. All his rivals either had to evolve to stay relevant or they died trying, and the latter seems to be what's happening with Duke.
The irony of all this is I don't really care at all about Duke Nukem Forever. I played through it and thought it was bad. I replayed some Duke 3D and it still holds up. I just don't like seeing people bitch about the reviews being unfair. The game's still bad. We're in the middle of the usual GAF hyperbole right now, same way MGS4 was GAF's 2008 GotY and by 2009 everyone hated it. Give it six months and everyone will agree that Forever is a mess.
Balls of Fail.
ZombieSupaStar
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Chiggs said:
you know ive never actually tried Daikatana...
jaundicejuice
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Someone should submit Daikatana as a wanted game on GoG ;P
loblaw said:
Id say it is alright. It's a low tier DM game. The fact that someone made a DM game in the year 2011 blows my mind. I miss DM games so much. However, Quake Live is free, and a much better MP game.
Id still play the MP in DNF just to dominate. Mindless fun is always great.
Some of the ultra low scores for this game is a bit of a joke, compared to some games that get a five or six. Every year a game comes along that the gaming press decides to shit on to prove that they're hard ass "journalists".
Anyway, I'm probably nearly finished. I heard the dam level is the last and I'm a bit into that. Yes it's stupid, purile, etc, but it's different and it's fun. Then again I liked Postal 2 (except for the rape mods). Hitting heads around with a shovel and having a shoot out with Gary Coleman was a surreal and slightly awesome experience.
Funnily enough Postal 2 and DNF seem to have exactly the same meta score at the moment. Hmmm.
Anyway, I'm probably nearly finished. I heard the dam level is the last and I'm a bit into that. Yes it's stupid, purile, etc, but it's different and it's fun. Then again I liked Postal 2 (except for the rape mods). Hitting heads around with a shovel and having a shoot out with Gary Coleman was a surreal and slightly awesome experience.
Funnily enough Postal 2 and DNF seem to have exactly the same meta score at the moment. Hmmm.
BobTheFork
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IT sounds instead of who wanted the longest to play this game, the new honor will be who gets a used copy the cheapest. I'm glad I'm waiting still; I'll play it when it's dirt cheap just to play it but nothing I've seen makes me want to get it anytime soon.
I believe in the original script leaked when 3DRealms got into troube, Duke had a sidekick named Bombshell and at some point in the game Duke would be kidnapped and she would replace him. I think they removed all the 'non-duke' levels in the game and made it a whole lot shorter in the progress.
Riposte
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No hyperbole, no being righteous, and no highbrow pretensions: This game isn't really funny(it feels like anyone could write this. It doesn't try at all) nor it is really interesting. Had it been oldschool(outdated) I would have liked it much more, but it is as Call of Duty 4+ as you can get with some mini-games and simple puzzles thrown in and long periods of no fighting. Minimal exploration(not much of a reason to explore), slow movement+short sprint, two weapons limiting the few fun weapons, really simplistic application of health regen. The few cool concepts are executed pretty poorly, making you wish they were in another game. There is no deep, inaccessible set of mechanics to master that other reviewers just are not getting. I would give it a 2/6 at most, a 1/6 more likely.
(I wouldn't be surprised if a decent amount of 360 players who bought this at 60 dollars will swear off the brand(it being new to a large chuck), screwing Gearbox over on their newly acquired IP. It should have been so much cheaper. EDIT: I don't know how it is on the PS3, but it isn't really worth it on PC to begin with either.)
(I wouldn't be surprised if a decent amount of 360 players who bought this at 60 dollars will swear off the brand(it being new to a large chuck), screwing Gearbox over on their newly acquired IP. It should have been so much cheaper. EDIT: I don't know how it is on the PS3, but it isn't really worth it on PC to begin with either.)
plagiarize
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do you want help making up your mind?Chiggs said:
when Daikatana launched there was a glitch on the second to last level that made it almost impossible to finish. basically, if you have to reload (because say, you died) when your companions weren't with you, either one or both of them wouldn't show up when you were meant to be reunited and the next door wouldn't unlock.
that said, Daikatana had really fun multiplayer.
DNF i will decide if i like or not later today probably... but 'like' isn't really the interesting standard here. i'm not expecting something objectively fun, i'm expect something inherantly *fascinating*.
Combichristoffersen
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Riposte said:
It's slightly better on PS3, but playing FPS games on consoles are, 9 out of 10 times, fucking terrible regardless of what console you're on, as far as I'm concerned. The FPS genre just works so much better with mouse + keyboard.
Domstercool
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I really enjoy the multiplayer on the PC! It's no bullshit pure shooting fun, and weapon pick ups! ^_^
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Riposte said:
They miss any modicum of good taste and sanity though
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plagiarize
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you can try the multiplayer for free, legally.ZombieSupaStar said:
http://www.moddb.com/downloads/daikatana-dm-121-full
it includes all the official maps, the maps added by the patch, and the maps from the unofficial map pack (i worked on about half of those, under my previous alias Dr Foxy... they aren't very good, but one of them slowly floods as the game wears on, a gimmick which i hadn't seen before and haven't seen since).
but anyways
MrCookiepants
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dalin80 said:
Isn't DNF kind of the definition of hyperbole?
ZombieSupaStar said:
Do yourself a favor and don't. Either A) Watch the Let's Play and laugh at someone else's pain (http://lparchive.org/Daikatana/) or B) buy a big bottle of whiskey to help you get through the game.
AgentOtaku
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Owensboro said:
Gonna watch this, thanks!
Neuromancer
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I never said it was sacred. I think you're going out of your way to be deliberately obtuse.Riposte said:
Great post, the game being released is a real achievement here.Forkball said:
plagiarize
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or just play the multiplayer, which is about as fast paced and vertical as deathmatch gets.Owensboro said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDekX-2OJWI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9buU-_Vbqeo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1bXmdyjlJU
show some relatively high level play.
if DNF mp is fast paced and vertical like that, i will play it and enjoy it.
Neuromancer
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Negative ghost riderMiniKelly said:
DryvBy
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saunderez said:
Lol, Ben is a white knight of all the white knights. I absolutely HATE his reviews. He has hated Duke Nukem since he wrote a "journalistic" preview about how Duke SLAPS women in the face. Go search that. He's a tard.
What happened to this world thought, when offensive humor is deemed as funny to only low-class mental patients? What would Al Bundy be in today's world?