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Because it didn't come out until today?
Tonner Cyn
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It is almost mid-day over here, I was hoping to see some reactions already
.EDIT: And I just wanted to make sure there was no catastrophic reason to avoid it.
Kamitani worked on Tower of Doom. The whole reason he made Dragon's Crown was to advance the genre that included games like D&D, Golden Axe, and King of Dragons.
This is from a Siliconcera interview (same information from a Famitsu interview): http://www.siliconera.com/2011/12/15/a-conversation-with-dragons-crown-director-george-kamitani/
It is almost mid-day over here, I was hoping to see some reactions already
EDIT: And I just wanted to make sure there was no catastrophic reason to avoid it.
Played the Demo on 360 and PS3, purchased on 360, just beat Tower of Doom offline co-op. Seems to be exactly the same on each.
You might wanna check Gamefaqs too, if you want opinions that are more than just GAF. They always seem to pay attention to decently-popular arcade releases...
Weltall Zero
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Funny, 4 credits per player would be the sweet spot for me too. Ah well.
Elf's is the hardest to do indeed. I find it's easiest if, rather than mashing, you just time each button press to coincide when the previous move connects. Mashing seems to have the effect on occasion that the game seems to "miss" the "release button" event or something, and thus two quick presses are combined into a long one. But even that is not sure-fire.
That would be my wish as well. I'm not sure if "all moves" can be enabled at all on one character (I think some abilities are equippable, perhaps some use the same command), but otherwise, yep.
Alternatively, you could actually earn those moves/spells during the course of an "arcade-like" run. Mystara games already do this with spells, and Battle Circuit allows you to purchase moves as you go.
Yep yep. It's 15 years now, since the interview is from 2011. I believe he also worked in Shadow over Mystara. In any case, see that beautifully animated (particularly when breathing fire) red dragon from both games? All his spritework and programming.
Dragon's Crown seems to be his life's work and magnum opus; I want nothing more than for it to be a resounding success, and I'll do my part.
Weltall Zero
Member
Edit: Sorry, double post.
It's just surprising, that's more "janky" than I'd have expected from the game. I guess normally people are too busy comboing into specials to really care, however.
Yeah, the "all moves" part is just a holdover from the general idea that most games of this type seem to like making your earn certain specials and the like; even DC looks like it'll have you earning special abilities.
In THIS game, I'd love to see how a limited supply of scrolls would work out; A random, set supply of scrolls per-playthrough would bring interesting strategy to the game, especially for the mage.
I do love the fact that higher levels actually seem to effect the spells here, too. Go from that single-bolt magic missile, to 3 at once!
It's a big part as to why I have a PS3 and Vita now (had neither when the game was first revealed), so I'll definitely be doing my part. Was nice to see his name in ToD's credits; years ago, all these odd Japanese names and pseudonyms seems like gibberish, but now I actually have knowledge and respect for a nice selection of these people...
Augemitbutter
Member
i jumped into a random doom game. went smooth for all but the last boss. that was some laggy mess. i wonder if the connection of the other player went to shit or if netcode sucks at that particular spot for some reason.
end of the world
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comparison of graphics options: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/razujk2traq9rk9/stcdAEQVlx#/
That is the same damn garbage as 3rd Strike and Vampire. This studio fricken blows.
Um what options exactly were you expecting it to have?
PepsimanVsJoe
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What I don't get is when somebody plays a Cleric and doesn't use Hold Person/Continual Light against Tell'rin. It's a free win. Hell I played with a Cleric earlier who didn't even use Turn Undead. wtf
The Warrior is great against the Dark Lich. The fiend gets backed into a corner really easily. From there it's just a matter of staying crouched and mashing him out with the dual-wield.
The past couple games I've played online have actually been functional. It's pretty surprising.
Still don't know how I feel about this port though. The PS3 retail version is going to be better, I just wonder how much.
The Warrior is great against the Dark Lich. The fiend gets backed into a corner really easily. From there it's just a matter of staying crouched and mashing him out with the dual-wield.
The past couple games I've played online have actually been functional. It's pretty surprising.
Still don't know how I feel about this port though. The PS3 retail version is going to be better, I just wonder how much.
Weltall Zero
Member
Well, D&D already has a limited supply of scrolls per 2-3 stages. I think it's nice to be able to go all out when you know you're getting a refill.
I wonder how many people realize that in Mystara you get X casts per spell level, and that, for example, Fireball and Lightning Bolt being the same spell level, means that each one you cast is also one less you can cast of the other.
Best of all, that, along with its homing and multi-target capabilites, are all strictly per actual D&D pen-and-paper rules:
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/magicMissile.htm
There's lots of other nice touches of faithfulness to the RPG, like the fact that dragons can only user their breath attack thrice per day (for the purposes of the game, thrice per encounter).
[brofist] Dragon's Crown is one of the reasons I got a PS3 (the other two being games that eventually ended up being released on PC; Dark Souls and Fall of Cybertron).
Yeah! Back in the day we only knew about big shots like Miyamoto and Richard Garriott, and it was funny how so many SNES games had their credits littered with pseudonims.
cj_iwakura
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Odin Sphere and Muramasa were good games too.
Werewolf Jones
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Played a game online earlier with some randoms on Steam, it was going well until we hit the tenth stage and two people dropped out. I solo'd the first game myself but I died so many times playing as Elf.
Macmanus
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I'd paypal you $11.25 for the game. I'll send you my info via PM including email. Respond to my email as I really don't haunt GAF a ton.
I don't even know what that is. But, no I don't use any filters. I'll put this one on a CRT unfiltered and run it through a scanline generator.
But, if fricken' Iron Galaxy is going to give us a scanline option for HDTV playback at least make it visually playable and not that murky shit they do. As it stands, none of their visual options are passable for an HDTV.
Capcom needs to ditch this porting house.
Don't worry: still buying for my 360, getting retail disc for my PS3...and will likely get it on Wii U for Gamepad support.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Can I get in on that?
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
The title says it all. No matter how good those BioWare and Interplay RPGs get, these games made me enjoy D&D. Heck, I grew up in a conservative home. I only knew of devils in console games. But this game changed it all.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Thanks a lot for setting things up.
digita1alchemy
Member
Just downloaded the demo on PS3, holy shit it looks terrible. Why isn't there an easy way to get 1:1 scaling?
digita1alchemy
Member
I already deleted the game so I don't know if it was running in 1080p or 720p, but 1536x896 or 1152x672 would have been fine for a 1:1 mode, respectively. Or at least give us some screen height/width sliders. Maybe I'm being petty, but the included filters are crap and the nearest neighbor upscaling just looks awful.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Crash to desktop AGAIN!
This is fucking ridiculous.
This is fucking ridiculous.
Boogalogist
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Turn Undead kills undead instantly. However, if used on Ghouls, they don't drop scrolls. You gotta kill the Ghouls normally and they'll drop scrolls. Use on skellies for best impact, cause Skellies drop garbage anyway.
Also, if you're in a party....let the Cleric pick up the Level 2 scrolls. That's the slot for healing. Mages and Elves should steer clear of level 2 scrolls.
FrostuTheNinja
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Dude, this sounds bad. Has anyone contacted Capcom? Seems like a regular occurrence on the PC version.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Well that's just it. He wasn't turning the skeletons or the ghouls. Needless to say this made some boss-fights a lot more troublesome than they should have been.
OH! Another crash to desktop. This time I wasn't even playing online.
Good advice! Thanks.
LiveFromKyoto
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Still not up on the eShop :/
Of course, it's not Thursday yet.
The Spoony Hou
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Sorry, Odin Sphere is the worst game I've ever played, so I don't plan on touching a Vanillaware game ever again. Even looking at their game's graphics makes me nauseous. I can't fathom why people who know about the classic Capcom arcade games would even waste time with a Vanillaware game, that's the only reason I sidetracked this topic.
It's interesting to know Kamitani worked in Tower of Doom, but it's clear he barely had any responsibility in the quality of the game.
I also have this problem, a quick Google search solved nothing.
What kind of stick are you using?
My 360 stick works fine. A ps3 stick I would assume would need soemthing like this
https://code.google.com/p/x360ce/
Sir Ilpalazzo
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I saw a really great post on this on Something Awful.
Sarkozymandias said:
There's also a really useful guide on GameFAQs that covers a ton of stuff.
Boogalogist
Member
Don't button mash. Time the attacks, otherwise the combo attacks will not come out.
Some Elf tips: -
1. War machine can be dispatched easily by doing the jump, down+attack. Elf can bounce up to 5 times on it.
2. Knock Tel'Arin down, stand over his body, throw one burning oil, attack, when attack hits, stand over his body, throw one burning oil, rinse & repeat.
3. When Man-scorpion does his jump, land and explode move, you can pull him down from that animation with Ice Storm. You can use all your spells at Man Scorpion cause your spells refreshes at the end of this stage.
4. You can't cast spells when Beholder is facing you. Jump, down+attack trick also works on Beholder. Magic Missile works great on it, cause he's the only target in the screen..and spells refresh after Beholder stage.
....and I forgot the rest of the bosses for now. Hope this helps.
Some Elf tips: -
1. War machine can be dispatched easily by doing the jump, down+attack. Elf can bounce up to 5 times on it.
2. Knock Tel'Arin down, stand over his body, throw one burning oil, attack, when attack hits, stand over his body, throw one burning oil, rinse & repeat.
3. When Man-scorpion does his jump, land and explode move, you can pull him down from that animation with Ice Storm. You can use all your spells at Man Scorpion cause your spells refreshes at the end of this stage.
4. You can't cast spells when Beholder is facing you. Jump, down+attack trick also works on Beholder. Magic Missile works great on it, cause he's the only target in the screen..and spells refresh after Beholder stage.
....and I forgot the rest of the bosses for now. Hope this helps.