Yep. Bring back Han/Giselle/Elena replace Scott Eastwood with post Avengers Chris Hemsworth and along with Luda/Tyrese/Vin/Michelle and you have the family back together again.
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Dwayne Johnson, Jason Statham 'Fast and Furious' Spinoff Gets 2019 Release
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Yep. Bring back Han/Giselle/Elena replace Scott Eastwood with post Avengers Chris Hemsworth and along with Luda/Tyrese/Vin/Michelle and you have the family back together again.
OrangeAtlas
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They were also featured in Vin's weird little artsy short film that he directed to bridge the gap between 1-2 or something.
Sure but my thing is how would they handle "death" with the franchise then? Would it turn into a joke? I would certainly stop tuning into them for sure. If cast is killed off, move on and bring new blood like Statham.
[Tunes into Fast 10]
*Dom Falls off a cliff trying to save Han (miraculously was kidnapped on Tokyo) from falling himself*
"Really? that was a lame 'death', wonder how he will return on Fast XX. Guess I will have to tune in while the directors keep us on our toes!!
[Tunes into Fast 12]
*Dom helps Tej but fails to do so on time, Tej dies on screen. Team attends funeral*
"Yawn, who cares. Tej when he returns, I hope he is level 9000*
etc etc etc
Edit: Personally with the unfortunate loss of Paul, the "family" is long gone now. While the crew they have is good, it will never be the same. Wanting Han and Gisele personally wouldnt really do much for me. Paul's character was the guy that you always needed to be in there and its painfully obvious that his presence is needed in the series.
Losing that character made me "move" on with the cast. Like you have to accept not everyone is gonna be always around. Besides making good money, will the studio be able to keep all the OG cast plus new members? I feel at one point it may not be possible which may inevitably lead to cast being trimmed off even if not "terminated". Maybe they would retire in universe. I guess its just how I see things now that it doesnt bother me about those 2 characters but I understand where you are coming from but honestly I think retconning deaths would be dumb. (I didnt realize Letty got it done so if their "deaths" and "reappearance" are decent then I guess it wouldnt be too much of a problem but how far would they go to do so? lol
This is only an issue if you take these films seriously as a dramatic narrative. They're balls-out action films with good chemistry among the ensemble cast. That's the bread and butter. Bringing people back if it helps one or both of those is good for the series.
Only kill villans. It works pretty well for most other action film series.
OrangeAtlas
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SuperStiltzkin
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Here's my beef with the Han and Gisele thing, their deaths didn't mean shit in the grand scheme of things when they should have. By the time F7 finished, you forgot Statham even killed Han. But I'll chock that up to Paul Walker's passing, so I get it. But in F8, Statham is a part of the crew and he brought back his lovable brother who kidnapped Mia and got Gisele killed. But no one mentions shit about Han or Gisele. Just a vague, "oh we've scrapped before so there's some tension, but we'll never address it." So their deaths might as well have been rendered meaningless already and you might as well bring em back.
Knuckle Sandwich
Member
Looking forward to it. That baby scene was amazing.
Vin would probably get paid off of this spin off as a producer or something so why the fuck does he care? Hobbs and Shaw blow up huge and become a big draw for F9. I don't understand. He's mad because he isn't the draw? C'mon guy.
Vin would probably get paid off of this spin off as a producer or something so why the fuck does he care? Hobbs and Shaw blow up huge and become a big draw for F9. I don't understand. He's mad because he isn't the draw? C'mon guy.
matrix-cat
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Statham's brother fell onto the same runway and lived. Dom jumps out of speeding cars onto concrete on purpose all the time and doesn't even scratch his sleeveless arms. By this series' standards, Giselle should have just walked that shit off
Han blew up basically the same way Letty did, too. You can't get much deader than actually being in a car as it explodes, but if she got better then Han can, too.
Likable characters coming back from the dead in silly ways is fun. Bringing back Han neatly solves the problem of Statham being a good guy now despite killing Han, and we get to have Han back. It's win/win. These movies are about cars and punching and shouting; they're at their worst when they try and get too serious.
Elena getting shot in cold blood
PhoncipleBone
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Yeah, they did that character dirty in 8.Statham's brother fell onto the same runway and lived. Dom jumps out of speeding cars onto concrete on purpose all the time and doesn't even scratch his sleeveless arms. By this series' standards, Giselle should have just walked that shit off
Han blew up basically the same way Letty did, too. You can't get much deader than actually being in a car as it explodes, but if she got better then Han can, too.
Likable characters coming back from the dead in silly ways is fun. These movies are about cars and punching and shouting; they're at their worst when they try and get too serious.in 8 was way too grimdark for Fast & Furious.Elena getting shot in cold blood
NintendosBooger
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Familia tree needs to be refreshed.
They're all like 40, still chasing cheap thrills and hiding from the law, with the help of stunt doubles for everything from jumping off buildings to running twenty steps. They must be tired of doing it because I'm tired of watching them do it. Franchise shouldn't have jumped the shark with all the avengers-like action sequences because those type of films have a short shelf life.
They're all like 40, still chasing cheap thrills and hiding from the law, with the help of stunt doubles for everything from jumping off buildings to running twenty steps. They must be tired of doing it because I'm tired of watching them do it. Franchise shouldn't have jumped the shark with all the avengers-like action sequences because those type of films have a short shelf life.
I think what bothers me more about the Gisele death scene is that she tries to help Han by giving her life for his BUT the dude she was shooting at like doesnt die from her shots? Like that was fucking lame? Han still had to beat the crap out of him from his rage.
Like If Im gonna jump to my death bad ass style to save someone special, I better make them bullets count, you know? So yea that is more of an issue than she not being around.
Like If Im gonna jump to my death bad ass style to save someone special, I better make them bullets count, you know? So yea that is more of an issue than she not being around.
DizzyCaffeine
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This seems like a foolish mistake to combat franchise fatigue, and it will only hurt FF9 and the inevitable FF10.
CartridgeBlower
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Why?
This substantially brings down the budget while still getting the 'brand' that is Fast and the Furious.
Not to mention if they actually get someone like Shane Black, it could actually have a different style to it.
Based on all the reports, I'm also not sure Vin and The Rock will ever be in another scene together, at least one without any blue screen, so...
DizzyCaffeine
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Well, for starters, I don't think it will be considerably cheaper, unless $150 million is cheap these days. Maybe that is cheap, though...
But my main concern is that you're just diluting the impact of those characters. Maybe you get your fill after watching them in the spinoff, and decide to avoid the mainline entries because Vin Diesel sucks. I just fail to see how this can possibly help FF9.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I'd imagine that the OG crew doesn't like the spin-off idea because it breaks up their united front. Now we know they turned down spin-off opportunities. Right now, they stand together and get a nice check cause they're the center of a billion dollar franchise. If there's another F&F, Universal can always just go "Naw, we'll just do another Hobbs movie" if they got too aggressive negotiating for the main series.
A TV spin-off or some type of "lesser" property wouldn't hurt their standing. This could be a threat to it.
A TV spin-off or some type of "lesser" property wouldn't hurt their standing. This could be a threat to it.
Boombloxer
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Tokyo Drift was awful, and I'm happy that they're not bringing Han back.
I'll see this and enjoy it.
I'll see this and enjoy it.
I don't believe for a second that Roman and Tej were offered spin-offs.
All of the Tyrese quotes just make it sound like he's pissed that a paycheck isn't coming for another year.
For what it's worth, this is the only interesting angle to take this franchise. F8 was just running off fumes when Statham and the Rock weren't on-screen (even though I still don't like them redeeming Statham's character).
NoMoreTrolls
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I'm in. They were my favorite part of 8. I suspect that this will mean that the Rock and Statham won't be in the mainline title.
I'm also still in for fast 9, even if the Rock and Statham aren't in it.
I'm also still in for fast 9, even if the Rock and Statham aren't in it.
The C-quality actors whose careers hung off a 16 year old film have been on borrowed time for over a decade now. Let them try to negotiate like sitcom actors, it'll be fun to see how much the public actually cares of this "family".
davidwhangchoi
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one of them was so negative man. and the other burns BBQ.
Mr. Pointy
Member
So if we're getting spinoffs now, can't we get the Luda/Tyrese spinoff? That way Tyrese can chill the fuck out, coz Luda got this.
Eh I mean that just how it works... You usually stick together to get the best deal. Vin Diesel pretty much revived the IP and they stuck together as a team on and off camera. You think the top actors of TBBT or Game of Thrones would get 1m per episode if they didn't stick together for those negotiations.
Downplaying what they have achieved with the IP in the last coupe years seems weird to me. They deserve their payout... If whatever The Rock and Statham are cooking has negative impact on the success of the main series I would be pissed too.
Then again it's not like any of them will be starving anytime soon.
SuperStiltzkin
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I dont get this logic. Tyrese debuted in 2F2F and they keep bringing him back.
SillyEskimo
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They should merge this franchise with Transformers.
They really should, it's already corny and carny as all hell. Just go into some long spiel about how vehicles are part of the family and BOOM, the audience eats it up per usual
And give more time to my boy Tego Calderon
old manatee
Banned
It should be Tyrese and Statham.
Discotheque
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would rather he write it than direct it if it was one or the other.
So if all those people were offered spin offs, wouldnt that just be FF?
Boombloxer
Member
So did Luda. They actually have chemistry and play well off each other.
Han was a tweener, not a fighter like Dom, not as skilled as Brian, not as funny as Roman, not a techie, and not as useful as Gal. Pretty easy to see why he got the axe in his own movie, much less as a part of the fam. It's also why he should stay dead.
SomedayTheFire
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rip fambly
Exploratory
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Booooo. This ain't the family.
RBelong2Us
Member
I honestly don't know whose really on the right on all this but The Rock comes off completely fake to me in general.
mocolostrocolos
Member
Still haven't seen 8.
Fast 7 was a closure to me.
For some reason I tear a bit up with the final scene. Really weird for what these movies really are.
Fast 7 was a closure to me.
For some reason I tear a bit up with the final scene. Really weird for what these movies really are.
Boombloxer
Member
No shame there. Half the theater was crying when I saw it. Was a great send off.
biggersmaller
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The Maverick
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The Rock came in and ate the food on everyone else's plate. I imagine he's intensely hated by the main cast now.