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E3 2009 Microsoft Conference Thread
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Opus Angelorum
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Tormentoso said:
Some people clearly have no idea of the technology involved. At all.
Indeed for now, there just isn't the power available to the current gen (or probably next gen) of consoles to pull this off in a gaming set-up.CRD90 said:
What excites me is the possibilities in the future, if Milo is a taste of the interactivity we can expect in future generations, then I want the full course.
Jinfash said:
Hmm. People have said over and over that this is how MS rolled..announcing things closer to release date than others, for example, and that's why they'd been so quiet. I'm pretty sure they announced more new 08 games at last year's show than 09 games at this year's.
This was a bit of a switch this year, showing more things further out, more 'next year' games...which I think is good, but I thought they'd have more than one new 09 game.
fortified_concept
Banned
Alan Wake was the fucking KING of the conference. Conviction looked mediocre as a game and Netal was interesting but I doubt it'll revolutionize gaming in any way. I wish we had seen more from Crackdown.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
Yes Boss! said:
who is that goddes in your avatar?
Holy crap at lawblob and Gary Whitta's meltdowns. :lol :lol
Good conference for MS, some good content and games shown there. I'd probably give them a B+ or A-. Not sold at all on Molyneaux's stuff with Natal as I don't trust his promises. Alan Wake looks great. Halo stuff looks cool. The 2d sidescroller that Epic's putting out looks cool. L4D footage i missed. Seems kinda soon but I won't complain at all about that as long as it's as polished as the first.
Good conference for MS, some good content and games shown there. I'd probably give them a B+ or A-. Not sold at all on Molyneaux's stuff with Natal as I don't trust his promises. Alan Wake looks great. Halo stuff looks cool. The 2d sidescroller that Epic's putting out looks cool. L4D footage i missed. Seems kinda soon but I won't complain at all about that as long as it's as polished as the first.
Souldriver
Member
It's just that I know you best from the OT I guess, cause I recognize your avatar, and it reminds me of a very nice gaf member. However, if you look at you're posts in this thread you sound like a raging fanboy, and I would've noticed that long before today if you were always like that.lawblob said:
Not meant to insult you, it's just weird to see lawbob, the guy with the pacman avatar, in full fanboy mode.
Zen said:
It took me a minute to realize that all of these quotes came from one poster. :lol
You forgot the one where he pulls out his scorn and makes fun of fanboys. I was gonna quote it and say irony much, but didn't wanna be bothered. But then you see all your quotes and it's really something.
UnholySpectacle
Member
The gamespot forums are erupting!! :lol
traynuvthawt
Banned
want to ask again if anyone knows when and where to get the whole conference.
my girl wants to watch it with me when she gets home.
my girl wants to watch it with me when she gets home.
I have to say the conference was a little disappointing for me as I was expecting an unveiling of key new IPs for a hardcore audience. The whole conference was mostly predictable.. it's quite shocking how we were all speculating that Microsoft had been keeping gigatons for the conference and bam. Almost everything there was what we knew.. :lol
+ Alan Wake was slightly underwhelming through all that hype promised but I'm very intrigued by the setting. Can't really make a good call about the graphics through a shitty stream but I'm sure we'll get HD videos soon so we can talk about it better.
+ Not interested in ODST/Reach
+ Splinter Cell Conviction looked excellent, the flashbacks and mission objectives projected on walls and integrated into the environment is slightly corny but I thought it was the best game of Microsoft's show.
+ Kojima playing on the shoulder tap :lol
+ Forza 3 looked good. Cockpit view's actual cockpit and animation don't match up to Gran Turismo, but I'm glad they're following the market leader. The in-game racing graphics look great though, and the video editing and replay is IN FUCKING SANE.
+ Natal has great potential, I think it'll open things up to a new audience but it depends on the actual integration and implementation of the services.
- Hated all the cameos: Harrison, Yoko, Spielberg.. I thought Spielberg was coming on-stage to announce a game but he basically polished their knob.
- No MGS4: Oxide despite all the noise and chatter.
- Peter Molyneux can have my kudos for his enthusiasm, but the entire Milo project is.. :lol It depends on the scope of his ambition I suppose. If he's trying to create a fully interactive AI then it's simply not possible at this stage in time. Basically Milo has to pass the Turing Test and I am EXTREMELY sure he won't be able to do it. Plus, just on a basic level, they HAVE to get Milo to generate natural speech which is completely synthetically composed. I've studied AI for two years in University and I call smoke and mirrors. On a more limited scale the tech Molyneux is developing could be useful for games.
All the others were completely forgettable to me.. at least I don't recall much. Out of all this I really just want to see HD videos of Splinter Cell & Alan Wake.
+ Alan Wake was slightly underwhelming through all that hype promised but I'm very intrigued by the setting. Can't really make a good call about the graphics through a shitty stream but I'm sure we'll get HD videos soon so we can talk about it better.
+ Not interested in ODST/Reach
+ Splinter Cell Conviction looked excellent, the flashbacks and mission objectives projected on walls and integrated into the environment is slightly corny but I thought it was the best game of Microsoft's show.
+ Kojima playing on the shoulder tap :lol
+ Forza 3 looked good. Cockpit view's actual cockpit and animation don't match up to Gran Turismo, but I'm glad they're following the market leader. The in-game racing graphics look great though, and the video editing and replay is IN FUCKING SANE.
+ Natal has great potential, I think it'll open things up to a new audience but it depends on the actual integration and implementation of the services.
- Hated all the cameos: Harrison, Yoko, Spielberg.. I thought Spielberg was coming on-stage to announce a game but he basically polished their knob.
- No MGS4: Oxide despite all the noise and chatter.
- Peter Molyneux can have my kudos for his enthusiasm, but the entire Milo project is.. :lol It depends on the scope of his ambition I suppose. If he's trying to create a fully interactive AI then it's simply not possible at this stage in time. Basically Milo has to pass the Turing Test and I am EXTREMELY sure he won't be able to do it. Plus, just on a basic level, they HAVE to get Milo to generate natural speech which is completely synthetically composed. I've studied AI for two years in University and I call smoke and mirrors. On a more limited scale the tech Molyneux is developing could be useful for games.
All the others were completely forgettable to me.. at least I don't recall much. Out of all this I really just want to see HD videos of Splinter Cell & Alan Wake.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
If the whole Milo thing is actually a game, Id only consider getting it if it had some insane achievements like Fable 2.
Silver Tongue - Convinced Milo to commit suicide 50 pts.
Silver Tongue - Convinced Milo to commit suicide 50 pts.
skinnyrattler said:
It was a great show but regarding Natal, I think it's more interesting as a user interface for other applications (I don't want it in a regular game). That painting tech demo was quite interesting and Milo looked like some thing out of a sci fi book so I have my doubts about that one. I'm interested in the tech that Lion Head developed and would be nice to hear some impressions from none-game reviewers (maybe some academics).
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
I thought it was a fine show. Looking forward to everything.
I think the conference was far better than I could have expected.
We finally get metal gear and a load of hardcore games we all want.
The last fm and streaming 1080p movies is awesome. Xbox 360 is probably the best value media hub out there.
And that camera thingy, well it LOOKS cool. Everyone will be talking about it so thats a win for them. What is it going to cost though????????
I think ps3 and nintendo will do ok, just no big shockers. And if they are holding back, they shouldnt!
We finally get metal gear and a load of hardcore games we all want.
The last fm and streaming 1080p movies is awesome. Xbox 360 is probably the best value media hub out there.
And that camera thingy, well it LOOKS cool. Everyone will be talking about it so thats a win for them. What is it going to cost though????????
I think ps3 and nintendo will do ok, just no big shockers. And if they are holding back, they shouldnt!
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Generation over. pack it up and go home. Nothing can compete
Halo ODST looks good. Reach is interesting. Epic XBLA game looks great. Not a huge Crackdown fan so can't get that exited for a CG trailer. Splinter Cell looks great. Not a racing sim fan but Forza 3 looked nice. What else, Alan Wake, not bad. Tony Hawk Ride looked pretty meh, I think I prefer that skating mini-game with Natal actually. Natal looks interesting. I liked Eyetoy: Antigrav, and this seems to expand on that, a sequel would be nice actually. Not sure on too many game applications for the device, though looking through menus seemed okay. British boy sim was creepy. Next Metal Gear multi platform as expected, but I was suprised they're not porting MGS4, so no real megatons, not that they really matter.
Biggest dissapointment was no Rare. Even the oft rumoured Perfect Dark XBLA, nor a sequel to it or Kameo. Was looking forward to that the most.
Biggest dissapointment was no Rare. Even the oft rumoured Perfect Dark XBLA, nor a sequel to it or Kameo. Was looking forward to that the most.
From a tech stand point, that was a pretty impressive conference. Still, they did not show any serious games supporting Natal, which makes me seriously doubt what was shown. Seems like these are only promises for now. Also, I don't really see this as a game changer for the rest of this generation. They did not announce a price or a release date and they even mentionned that the developpement tools would be in the hands of developpers soon. This means it will be a while before we see some real support for this tech.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Thoughts;
New peripheral for Tony Hawk - couldn't give a crap
FF13 for Spring 2010 - looks great as ever, the footage was pointless though, cutting off with Odin so quickly, seems like FFXIII was shoehorned in a little
MW2 Exclusive Maps - lame, this kind of exclusive is pointless
New Arcade game by EPIC - not my kinda thing, cool i guess
CRACKDOWN 2 - never played the first one, might be good?
L4D 2 - not my kinda thing
Splinter Cell Conviction - not my kinda thing, but it does look amazing graphically
Halo 3 ODST and Halo Reach, beta included with ODST - i couldn't give any less of a crap
Forza 3 - not my kinda thing, looks well made though
- I start to lose faith in the conference here, but suddenly!-
Alan Wake - looks amazing, definitely day one
Zune Video Store, HD1080P, Streaming - nifty, but i'm not sure i'll bother with it
Facebook/Twitter - don't give a crap
METAL GEAR RISING - the last of the original Playstation franchises taken? I'm hyped for it, though i will buy it for PS3 (i expect it's multiplatform)
Xbox Fluid Camera - seems kinda nice but that 'experimental' stuff usually gets boring fast, so i probably won't buy it
Milo - the tech behind it is amazing, but it looks really creepy, and i'm not sure where the fun is.
Overall: Great showing from MS, much better than last year (though you could argue their crux was another Playstation franchise game) but there's a lot of other amazing stuff in there
New peripheral for Tony Hawk - couldn't give a crap
FF13 for Spring 2010 - looks great as ever, the footage was pointless though, cutting off with Odin so quickly, seems like FFXIII was shoehorned in a little
MW2 Exclusive Maps - lame, this kind of exclusive is pointless
New Arcade game by EPIC - not my kinda thing, cool i guess
CRACKDOWN 2 - never played the first one, might be good?
L4D 2 - not my kinda thing
Splinter Cell Conviction - not my kinda thing, but it does look amazing graphically
Halo 3 ODST and Halo Reach, beta included with ODST - i couldn't give any less of a crap
Forza 3 - not my kinda thing, looks well made though
- I start to lose faith in the conference here, but suddenly!-
Alan Wake - looks amazing, definitely day one
Zune Video Store, HD1080P, Streaming - nifty, but i'm not sure i'll bother with it
Facebook/Twitter - don't give a crap
METAL GEAR RISING - the last of the original Playstation franchises taken? I'm hyped for it, though i will buy it for PS3 (i expect it's multiplatform)
Xbox Fluid Camera - seems kinda nice but that 'experimental' stuff usually gets boring fast, so i probably won't buy it
Milo - the tech behind it is amazing, but it looks really creepy, and i'm not sure where the fun is.
Overall: Great showing from MS, much better than last year (though you could argue their crux was another Playstation franchise game) but there's a lot of other amazing stuff in there
RubberJohnny
Banned
A fucking chatbot can pass the Turing Test.
SimpleDesign
Member
I see the usual faces are up to their business.
Takeda Kenshi
blew Staal
Jinfash said:
Because it comes off as completely one sided and crazy?
BrainZEROX
Member
It's a little bit strange how Natal killed Tony Hawk Ride with its skate demo...
dollartaco
Member
Gary Whitta said:
Not me. I just don't see what the excitement is about with Natal, period. Seriously, this is not new technology and it will have LOWER articulation recognition than the original Wii-mote. It's a sacrifice that MS will use to leverage a level of success comparable to Nintendo, in some regards. Was the Wii the beginning of the end for Nintendo? No, but it was the beginning of the end of my Nintendo game purchases.
At this rate, Sony will unveil PlayStation Outdoors, which includes a soccer ball and two sets of cones. PLEASE SAVE US SEGA.