E3 2014 | Nintendo Treehouse Live @ E3 [ it's over :( ]

fuck the treehouse. they convinced me of games i wouldnt normally buy if just shown at the digital event. im gonna be so broke :(
Seriously

I want to buy essentially every WiiU game they had on stream because they made them all look great. Hyrule Warriors, Bayo 1+2, Capt Toad, and obviously Smash Bros are all on my wish list for the rest of the year retail wise, whereas previously I was only really excited for Smash. :|

And I'm hyped for basically every 2015 title they have too
 
fuck the treehouse. they convinced me of games i wouldnt normally buy if just shown at the digital event. im gonna be so broke :(

Which games? For me it was Splatoon, and I'm now on the fence about Fantasy Life. I just need to know whether or not there are some BS real world time events mixed with the RNG. It's what caused me to stop playing Disney Magical World. Waiting an entire week real time and not having the item you need stocked in the shop i fucking horrible.
 
An idea to improve the Treehouse for next year: highlight some indie and Eshop games. Particularly those exclusive to the platform. Some of the games in the indie reel looked interesting and I'd have loved to see the Treehouse team go in depth with them.

fuck the treehouse. they convinced me of games i wouldnt normally buy if just shown at the digital event. im gonna be so broke :(

Lol same.

I cannot tell you how few fucks I would have given about Fantasy Life and Splatoon without Treehouse talking about it.
 
An idea to improve the Treehouse for next year: highlight some indie and Eshop games. Particularly those exclusive to the platform. Some of the games in the indie reel looked interesting and I'd have loved to see the Treehouse team go in depth with them.



Lol same.

I cannot tell you how few fucks I would have given about Fantasy Life without Treehouse talking about it.

What is this... I'm currently in the past you stage of all of zero fucks but this has me picked. I might just find this.
 
Nintendo created so much hype for their games this week. Hopefully most of that hype is still there when these games are released. Thank goodness for Nintendo Directs.
 
Nintendo created so much hype for their games this week. Hopefully most of that hype is still there when these games are released. Thank goodness for Nintendo Directs.

Indeed I must have said this a thousand times but y'all better be buying Bayonetta 2. Such quality does not deserve to bomb!
 
Which games?.

Splatoon was one. I thought it was cool in the digital event but once i saw them play it and talk about it i was in. This looks amazingly fun

Yoshi i was on the fence just based on other games i wanted more. But once again i saw it i just said fuck it, get added onto the preorder list.

geez.
 
An idea to improve the Treehouse for next year: highlight some indie and Eshop games. Particularly those exclusive to the platform. Some of the games in the indie reel looked interesting and I'd have loved to see the Treehouse team go in depth with them.

They demoed a ton of them on the second day. Swords and Soldiers II, Shovel Knight, Guacamelee!, Affordable Space Adventures and probably others I'm forgetting.
 
They demoed a ton of them on the second day. Swords and Soldiers II, Shovel Knight, Guacamelee!, Affordable Space Adventures and probably others I'm forgetting.

God, and every single one looked incredible. Affordable Space Adventures was a huge surprise for me. I really want to do some co-op on that game.

Treehouse was a legitimate E3 miracle. I severely doubt other companies will be able to imitate it to the same degree of success. I hope they can, because then I truly would feel like I took a trip to E3. Right now it just feels like I took a trip to SpaceWorld back in 2000 or something. Simply sublime.
 
God, and every single one looked incredible. Affordable Space Adventures was a huge surprise for me. I really want to do some co-op on that game.

Treehouse was a legitimate E3 miracle. I severely doubt other companies will be able to imitate it to the same degree of success. I hope they can, because then I truly would feel like I took a trip to E3. Right now it just feels like I took a trip to SpaceWorld back in 2000 or something. Simply sublime.

Do the other companies have their own internal localization teams like the Treehouse? The chemistry of having a bunch of friends together along with their enthusiasm were the biggest reasons I loved the streams so much. Having what would essentially be the same demos as the ones at the each companies presser, but longer, wouldn't have been nearly as fun.
 
Sony already has a livestream. The problem is it's basically the exact same thing as the Gamespot or IGN shows except with Sony people as hosts. The Nintendo one works for a couple of very important reasons:

1. There's no third party content, both because there's not a lot of it, and because this is a Nintendo focused stream. This means it's mostly all Nintendo first party stuff, most of which is good and we actually care about.

2. Nintendo doesn't make demos designed for the current stage setups. They just put in builds and let the actual gameplay speak for itself. What you see is most likely what you'll buy in a few months.

3. Less games = longer time frames. Some games got up to an hour's worth of coverage.

4. The long time frames let them have lengthy interviews with the devs from Japan. Being run by Treehouse is also huge since the language barrier is less of an issue.

Add to that great games and cool personalities, and you have a good recipe for success. I don't know if the others can emulate that since they have to placate third parties and get everyone up there. In the last couple of years I've tried to watch the PSBlog show, the Gamespot stage show, IGN, and I could never stick with any of them. This was the first time where I stayed glued to the stream and loved almost everything they showed.

Those are some very good points but I think it could be done. It all comes to balance for the most part. Having a Direct or conference before hand featuring some varied titles and then for the hands-on demoing and discussion can be hand picked titles that may seem kind of out there for many and go further in-depth and build from there. I was happy to see Splatoon actually get so much screen time and discussion which for a new IP from Nintendo is kind of weird. Or then there's S.T.E.A.M. and everyone's initial reactions to the images and then finally seeing it in motion and how it plays. Both of those games seem to be getting a lot of positive reaction, Splatoon especially (there's fanart everywhere!).


But you are right about how Sony is doing things with their post conference live streams is that they feel very dull. It's a standard interview we see all the time and that would really have to change. The developers in the Treehouse stream seemed far more relaxed and casual without fear of being obliterated by something said to a journalist.

But for a what ifs. I wonder if Sony was a little more like Nintendo with their live streams I wonder if something like Puppeteer or Tearaway would have been noticed and better received.
 
They demoed a ton of them on the second day. Swords and Soldiers II, Shovel Knight, Guacamelee!, Affordable Space Adventures and probably others I'm forgetting.

Ah. I totally missed the second day due to work and a power outage at home.

In that case, no suggestions for improvement. At least not at the moment. lol

Edit: Actually, looking at my own post, I realized I would have like the indies to be featured multiple days. haha
 
They demoed a ton of them on the second day. Swords and Soldiers II, Shovel Knight, Guacamelee!, Affordable Space Adventures and probably others I'm forgetting.

Affordable Space Adventures did look great, and it was a game I didn't have on my radar until I saw it demoed on Treehouse. It would be nice if Nintendo did more Treehouse demos a couple time a month for games.
 
They demoed a ton of them on the second day. Swords and Soldiers II, Shovel Knight, Guacamelee!, Affordable Space Adventures and probably others I'm forgetting.

It was also so weird to see PS3/PS4/Xbox 360 logo at the end of the Guacamelee demo and they didn't even try and hide it.
 
I want to buy essentially every WiiU game they had on stream because they made them all look great. Hyrule Warriors, Bayo 1+2, Capt Toad, and obviously Smash Bros are all on my wish list for the rest of the year retail wise, whereas previously I was only really excited for Smash. :|

And I'm hyped for basically every 2015 title they have too

I was considering going "Screw it, let's go an adventure and try getting all or most of the Nintendo exclusives on the WiiU" and after gleefully adding preorders to my cart on Amazon, I got to Devil's Third and was like "Hmmm, maybe I should calm down, wait a day, and think about this" ^_^
 
I was considering going "Screw it, let's go an adventure and try getting all or most of the Nintendo exclusives on the WiiU" and after gleefully adding preorders to my cart on Amazon, I got to Devil's Third and was like "Hmmm, maybe I should calm down, wait a day, and think about this" ^_^

I think it's going to be a very late 2015 title. I'm going to wait and reserve judgement until next years E3.
 
i'm finding that more than simply catering to an audience, that publishers seem to now be pandering to them. watching the sony conference was like watching some sort of fanservice game where you have to rub half-naked girls to boost their stats. lily bergamo turning into let it die, and then also getting lost in the mix just seemed emblematic of that. meaning, i would think that a new exclusive title in which they care to name drop some guy would have a bigger impact, but instead it was just one of many grimdark games revealed in a row.

it was a real breath of fresh air when lbp3 was announced (and i thought it played wonderfully in the demo i had a shot at). the dead island 2 trailer, while completely unnecessary, was funny and bucked the trend of almost the entire conference. the same was sort of true of that whole fake letters segment, where grim fandango was revealed, but the execution of all that came across as self-congratulating.

and then they end the conference on fucking uncharted 4- a game they revealed last year and they don't even do a great job at it. people can spend time discussing the plot details or the look of the game, but what i saw was this drab, depressing look at the fifth game in a series that's seven years old. if there was any energy after the shitshow that was the powers reveal, it was sucked out of me right there.

and it didn't have to be that way! there are other things coming out! they could have shown more colorful titles, more japanese titles. what if they'd taken time to show off persona 5, or danganronpa 2, or final fantasy type-0?! these are things they actually have that are coming out i do not understand the fucking pandering to one audience.

microsoft on the other hand, hit more of a balancing act- and they have less systems, so they seemed genuinely interested in seeking a variety of games. there's the dark monster game in evolve, and your shooter game in cauladoody, but fuck they showed off a genuinely bright and passionate sunset overdrive, creative stuff like project spark, a new japanese ip in scalebound, and brought back phantom dust. just in the perception game, i felt like sony doesn't care about seeking a variety of tastes- just those who want to play artsy or gruesome film games, and it doesn't have to be that way.

back to nintendo, i also felt they had variety, but it obviously starts on a different scale. i guess devil's third and bayonetta count as their really dark/gruesome games, but there's a lot of middle ground between those and the light family stuff (kirby, yoshi), in smash bros., zelda, hyrule warriors, splatoon and xenoblade chronicles x. not all of those things will be games i'll buy (looking your way, yoshi), but there's definitely a breadth there that was missing elsewhere.

You pretty much read my mind.
 
Literally can't wait for more Final Bosman stuff. Tally the bets, talk about the E3 pressers, some Kyle on show floor silliness. I need it so badly.
I really wish he could've popped over to the tree house. Maybe he did. He should've hosted the Smash-Invitational. Can't wait to see the show next week.
 
IGN is a joke they only have 2 games up for Best WiiU at E3, now they only list playable games so X and Zelda cant be up there

They only have Smash Bros and Mario Marker

No Splatoon, no Hyrule Warriors, no Bayo 2

Was Kirby and Yoshi playable?

Thats the kinda crap that have people looking at the list who dont go on gaming sites every day and are like WiiU has no games coming
 
They could have gotten anyone else to host the Smash Invitational. Keighley was sucking all the hype out of the room.

Hell, they had Zelda Williams make an appearance. Should have asked her to host.
 
IGN is a joke they only have 2 games up for Best WiiU at E3, now they only list playable games so X and Zelda cant be up there

They only have Smash Bros and Mario Marker

No Splatoon, no Hyrule Warriors, no Bayo 2

Was Kirby and Yoshi playable?

Thats the kinda crap that have people looking at the list who dont go on gaming sites every day and are like WiiU has no games coming

Kirby and Yoshi were both playable on the show floor, and so was Captain Toad.

Yeah, I'm still up. I should head to bed though, it's almost 3 and I have work in the morning.
 
IGN is a joke they only have 2 games up for Best WiiU at E3, now they only list playable games so X and Zelda cant be up there

They only have Smash Bros and Mario Marker

No Splatoon, no Hyrule Warriors, no Bayo 2

Was Kirby and Yoshi playable?

Thats the kinda crap that have people looking at the list who dont go on gaming sites every day and are like WiiU has no games coming

This is precisely why the Tree house was needed. Regardless what people say because the coverage simply wouldn't be there under the mainstream press.
 
It seems Alison has become a lightening rod for positive energy on Twitter. I'm really happy Treehouse knows how much everyone loved Nintendo's presence at E3, and I hope they do something similar next year.
 
IGN is a joke they only have 2 games up for Best WiiU at E3, now they only list playable games so X and Zelda cant be up there

They only have Smash Bros and Mario Marker

No Splatoon, no Hyrule Warriors, no Bayo 2

Was Kirby and Yoshi playable?

Thats the kinda crap that have people looking at the list who dont go on gaming sites every day and are like WiiU has no games coming

The gaming media at large is probably the primary impetus for Nintendo to go this way. They are wholly unreliable at covering Nintendo's games, so why not do it themselves? Sure they could money hat like the other major publishing companies, but why not instead do something better, while it being on their own terms? At this point what kind of reputation do these gaming websites have anyway? This at least can keep the information flowing and get people more aware of their products... which would help counteract the general ignorance surrounding the Wii U. Nintendo simply had to do something after really dropping the ball before and after the launch of the Wii U, and hopefully this can help rectify some of the damage done.
 
This is precisely why the Tree house was needed. Regardless what people say because the coverage simply wouldn't be there under the mainstream press.

Without a doubt. The amount of information and footage regarding these Wii U and 3DS games would not be out there if it wasn't for the Treehouse streams. Period. I agree it was absolutely needed and I'm extremely glad Nintendo realized that.

I feel the entire thing was a huge success. I loved it. I hope they do this again next year or find ways doing something like this outside of E3 as well in addition to the newly improved Nintendo Directs.
 
The Treehouse stream was a brilliant idea. It sold me on about 5 games I didn't know I wanted (Smash Bros 3DS, Hyrule Warriors, Codename Steam) or didn't know existed (Fantasy Life, Affordable Space Adventures). It was entertaining, too. I'm going to miss it
and Erik

That said, I would have preferred more indie exposure on the third day.
 
One thing I thought was a missed opportunity was Nintendo not having 3rd party titles from non-independent developers fill up some space.

Some in-depth looks at games like Persona Q Shadow of the Labyrinth and Story of Seasons would've definitely helped those out.
Especially the latter, due to all the confusion.
 
If anything I wish we got some demos or something from Nintendo. When they released 4 Swords a couple E3s ago, I made sure I hit the eshop up stat. Granted alpha/beta builds aren't the best demo material but lordy would a Smash demo sell consoles all by itself!!!!
 
One thing I thought was a missed opportunity was Nintendo not having 3rd party titles from non-independent developers fill up some space.

Some in-depth looks at games like Persona Q Shadow of the Labyrinth and Story of Seasons would've definitely helped those out.
Especially the latter, due to all the confusion.

Agree. though I can't see nintendo choosing a side in the harvest moon wars lol ah, the trash talk between the two at the show was awesome
 
I'm going to miss the Treehouse. I'm going to struggle to adapt to a life without daily coverage on tap. When do you think we'll get our next considerable insights to Nintendo's future games? A Direct, but how soon? Some sort of games convention or show?

Also, does anyone know of any Treehouse presenters with Miiverse profiles? I need to keep up to date with these people. Even Twitter will suffice.
 
Catching up on last night. Nate (about Erik): "He injured his arm lifting a burning car from a family of wounded raccoons."

lol

Edit: Can someone please, please compile some sort of highlight reel or 'top ten treehouse moments' list? This coverage was pure gold.
 
IGN is a joke they only have 2 games up for Best WiiU at E3, now they only list playable games so X and Zelda cant be up there

They only have Smash Bros and Mario Marker

No Splatoon, no Hyrule Warriors, no Bayo 2

Was Kirby and Yoshi playable?

Thats the kinda crap that have people looking at the list who dont go on gaming sites every day and are like WiiU has no games coming

IGN knows their target audience is 14 year old COD kids.
 
microsoft on the other hand, hit more of a balancing act- and they have less systems,

...not that you'd necessarily realise that from Sony's presser. Or, for that matter, Nintendo's, although they made up for that in the Treehouse, and the 3DS isn't as desperate for the defib paddles as the Vita is.

just in the perception game, i felt like sony doesn't care about seeking a variety of tastes- just those who want to play artsy or gruesome film games, and it doesn't have to be that way.

To expand on that: There were some interesting small indie titles at Sony, but I don't think any of them quite got the full attention they deserved. That said, while I don't think LBP3 demoed well at the presser, the fact that it was there was highly encouraging. Here's an aside: How much better, more enjoyable, more convincing would that LBP3 demo have been if it was presented in the Treehouse format?

It feels a bit like Sony are trying to be Xbox-360-era Microsoft and Microsoft are trying to be E3-2013-Sony. And, while not perfect, both are succeeding in some way at that - but I don't think Xbox-360-era Microsoft was that enticing a prospect for the industry as a whole, really. Nice in itself, but in no way the complete package that E3-2013-Sony was.

The only downside of all of this tough... The absence of Mr. Iwata. Just imagine all the funny and cool stuff he could have done during the Treehouse stream and random videos like the Filsamech VS Robot Trinen video. I genuinely wish him the best and I hope he is already feeling better of his health issues.

Ah, except I suspect they were secretly announcing online play with Giant Robo: perhaps Iwata was controlling Filsamech from Japan?
 
IGN is a joke they only have 2 games up for Best WiiU at E3, now they only list playable games so X and Zelda cant be up there

They only have Smash Bros and Mario Marker

No Splatoon, no Hyrule Warriors, no Bayo 2

Was Kirby and Yoshi playable?

Thats the kinda crap that have people looking at the list who dont go on gaming sites every day and are like WiiU has no games coming

Really surprise about Bayo 2 given what a darling that game is among some on the community and the fact is had as a great showing along with being bundle with the first game for free.

Everything else, I am not surprise. Unless it is Zelda or Smash, IGN barely pays attention to Nintendo.
 
One thing I thought was a missed opportunity was Nintendo not having 3rd party titles from non-independent developers fill up some space.

Some in-depth looks at games like Persona Q Shadow of the Labyrinth and Story of Seasons would've definitely helped those out.
Especially the latter, due to all the confusion.

Watchdogs would also be a good opportunity to show the gameplay use in a Western 3rd Party title during the Treehouse.

In the end, I guess the experiment payed off and they'll try to expand on it next year with 3rd Parties, if there are still any left.
 
The trailer thing is a very good point. This was the first stage show I've seen where they actually revealed a ton of new content in the games rather than just regurgitating something you already saw. The CG trailer thing is really frustrating too. You shouldn't get stage time unless you actually have a demo to show.

I'm reminded of the Super Mario Galaxy reveal year a while back; the trailer and what they demoed on stage was fantastic, but there were other levels playable on the show floor - I distinctly remember the 'biscuit factory' one - that weren't really shown off and looked fantastic, so we'd hear scuttlebutt that some press outlet had footage of it and would have to hunt it down to watch some shaky offscreen shots of it (with them failing to long jump. Repeatedly. Grrr.).

Imagine what the Super Mario Galaxy demos would have been like in the Treehouse format.
 
Without a doubt. The amount of information and footage regarding these Wii U and 3DS games would not be out there if it wasn't for the Treehouse streams. Period. I agree it was absolutely needed and I'm extremely glad Nintendo realized that.

I feel the entire thing was a huge success. I loved it. I hope they do this again next year or find ways doing something like this outside of E3 as well in addition to the newly improved Nintendo Directs.

Just shorten the directs themselves to showing reels of any new title we didn't know of, then have a treehouse stream up immediately afterwards doing what they did at E3, but with whatever is in playable state shown at that Direct.
 
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