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Jimmyisback
Banned
MS will hold their own press conference with or without e3 so it really doesn't matter. e3 was just about the press conferences to me. Everything else is garbage.
newtypepilot
Member
It's a sad thing indeed
because it mean there won't be any cringe compilations from crowbcat
because it mean there won't be any cringe compilations from crowbcat
Orta
Banned
Was easy to ignore them when e3 was a messy free for all before those twats decided to stage their own garbage.
SoggyBiscuit
Banned
End of an era, really. Sad to see it die in such a pathetic way but the show has been languishing for some time.
I think publisher's have exercised closer control of their content moreso than ever in recent years and this has definitely played into the decline of centralised shows like E3.
Besides, it isn't like we won't get news of any sort come June. I'm certain Sony, MS and Nintendo will all bring something to the table in their respective formats.
I hope Devolver continue with their batshit insane conferences, they were the most fun things at E3 in years gone by.
I think publisher's have exercised closer control of their content moreso than ever in recent years and this has definitely played into the decline of centralised shows like E3.
Besides, it isn't like we won't get news of any sort come June. I'm certain Sony, MS and Nintendo will all bring something to the table in their respective formats.
I hope Devolver continue with their batshit insane conferences, they were the most fun things at E3 in years gone by.
TheContact
Member
there was something special about having an in person crowd. The digital events feel so staged and fake. Honestly I don’t even care e3 2022 is cancelled bc it would have been garbage anyway
Batiman
Banned
What negative impact did E3 cause in the last decade?
Platinumstorm
Member
Rest in peace.
yes, because cringe humor, canned video, obvious bullshots, and audiences prompted for laughs/whoops at certain points are so compelling.
Lognor
Banned
Nintendo direct at e3 doesn't have that. The cringiest shit at e3 in the last several years was sony's last presentation. The one in the fucking church. Lol. Cringe af. With sony's withdrawn e3 became a lot less cringe!
March Climber
Member
E3 itself didn't cause any negative impact. The ESA and their fumbles caused negative impact on E3. Honestly I would have preferred if they would sell E3 to another party than letting it die a slow death.
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Lognor
Banned
Hopefully you're right. Microsoft and Nintendo are who I care about. Hopefully they still do some type of presentation in early June.
This is not about "us".
if i am Sony, MS or Nintendo, and I am going to spend millions on putting together a showcase show for my target audience and optionally other customers, I would definitely prefer to control as much of the narrative as possible without having to deal with distractions or competing news stories from the other game companies.
wondermega
Member
Wow. I am genuinely curious if we will see a live event next year (or ever again, honestly). I have attended most shows since 2000 in some capacity or other (dev staff, indie dev, job hunter) and though it certainly changed and lost it's luster in many ways compared to those first shows I attended, it was still always such a blast for so many reasons.
The last 2 years felt particularly strange not having these giant crazy events to officially kick off the summer. Sigh, I guess nothing lasts forever, then.. RIP E3, so many good times, so many great friends..
The last 2 years felt particularly strange not having these giant crazy events to officially kick off the summer. Sigh, I guess nothing lasts forever, then.. RIP E3, so many good times, so many great friends..
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Craig of War
Banned
given most of the NA gaming industry is on the west coast., that makes no sense.
Vegas, sure. but Atlanta? no/
Verchod
Member
Many seem glad it's gone. But now we have nothing.
I know many publishers have their own events but I don't think they'll feel so inclined to bother with no E3 around. Well just get some random drip feed.
It's good to celebrate this medium, and E3 was for developers of all sizes to showcase what they have.
I know many publishers have their own events but I don't think they'll feel so inclined to bother with no E3 around. Well just get some random drip feed.
It's good to celebrate this medium, and E3 was for developers of all sizes to showcase what they have.
lughnasadh123
Member
I'm more shocked it was planned to even be a thing.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Wonder how many layers of shoes that is?
If you saw the 2021 TGAs, you know what this is about
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
They hated Atlanta E3 in the 90s, make them hate it now.
Those happy it's gone will be the first to bitch during the first 4 hour self promotion stream for that single reveal.
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
It really is terrible news for the vast majority of gamers that care about gaming. It seems like the only people that are happy about it are Sony fans and fanboys.
I've been to E3 several times and it's like Disneyland, Las Vegas, and Christmas all wrapped up in one big, exciting package for gamers. I do hope Xbox and Nintendo are going to have a big events that's at least the quality of their E3 shows last year.
I do believe I can live without a 2K HR diversity show though.
Hawking Radiation
Member
It really is terrible news for the vast majority of gamers that care about gaming. It seems like the only people that are happy about it are Sony fans and fanboys.
I've been to E3 several times and it's like Disneyland, Las Vegas, and Christmas all wrapped up in one big, exciting package for gamers. I do hope Xbox and Nintendo are going to have a big events that's at least the quality of their E3 shows last year.
I do believe I can live without a 2K HR diversity show though.
It just has to be Sony fans or fanboys huh. Christ
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
No it doesn't have to be, but it turns out that it's just a fact the majority of people cheering for the demise of E3 just happen to be of that persuasion. I'm hardly the only one that's noticed it.It just has to be Sony fans or fanboys huh. Christ
Hawking Radiation
Member
The ESA has had a lot of issues before the E3 decline. Stories of in-fighting, internal politics and witch hunts. A real toxic environment that I won't wish on anyone and to see it go down and lose its prized jewel gets no sympathy from me.
Why should one hope for or encourage toxic work places? And I'm sure as hell its not only Sony fans who are Ok with this. You're just painting everyone with the same brush here for whatever reason.
Also heard that developers had to dedicate months of dev work just to prepare for E3 and with current world events it's probably a good idea that they don't need to this year. More dev time on their games can only be a good thing.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
This. what we ultimately all of us want is quality games, we gonna get that if let developers more to to work on their game instead wasting resource and effort useless E3 demo.
Paulxo87
Member
i am a technical director in the trade show industry. i have not been home for weeks. Been flying city to city. convention after convention I have never been this busy in my life lol. And we were out of work for over a year. So it's bullshit that there would be no demand for a in person e3.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Sounds like really hard work man
thismeinteil
Member
Yea, it was pretty evident that without Sony, E3 was going to die shortly after. Bet they're regretting not opening it up to fans like Sony and a few other publishers wanted, instead of keeping it mainly for the "journalists" and just few pleebs they let in.
Fess
Member
They’ll still do trailers if the games are coming out soon, we’ll just get a bunch of minor digital events and boring youtube videos instead, plus the hyped up and always drawn out and disappointing Geoff alternative.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
I do believe I can live without a 2K HR diversity show though.
I thought that was Take 2? And yeah, it was absolutely horrible.
Not that I'm against more diversity/representation in the medium on the employee side. But, absolutely no one watches E3 to hear about that type of stuff. It's for kickass games. They already took away the booth babes, they're trying to take the games away too.
And now they just took E3 away instead
Nah those would be more like the Showcase events. But it does kind of suck that everyone seems to want to do their own thing in their own bubbles now. We'll never get another "$299", another "Giant enemy crabs!", another "Riiiiiidge Raaaaacer!", another Konami 2010, another "This is how you share games."
It's like watching a sporting event between two teams in two separate stadiums with their own fans in each "competing" like it's some turn-based virtual show. It can never replace the excitement of everyone being in the same place at once IMHO.
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MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I find it so droll that they cancel E3 2022 and immediately announce a E3 2023. Getting rather tired of the industry's obsession with fake hype announcements.
"We canceled this big event to showcase all our big games and new hardware just like last year!! But don't worry next year we will definitely be back and better then ever!!"
Pfffft. Yeah right. Gimme a kit kat bar. But this stuff is pretty sad.
E3 effectively died once Nintendo went their own way. And slowly everyone else is following them until there is nothing left.
"We canceled this big event to showcase all our big games and new hardware just like last year!! But don't worry next year we will definitely be back and better then ever!!"
Pfffft. Yeah right. Gimme a kit kat bar. But this stuff is pretty sad.
E3 effectively died once Nintendo went their own way. And slowly everyone else is following them until there is nothing left.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Well, looks like it's up to game companies to string together a bunch of pre-recorded or live streamed videos in June.
I'd rather have an E3 where you got live people trying to hype up games in front of an audience. Made even better as sometimes there's fuck ups making it funny. Ya, these shows can be pretty shallow with company reps trying to PR their game system (and their own careers) for gamers, but I still like it.
Only real drawback of E3's is when anyone of them try to make it weird or fluff it up with dumb shit (Sony's musical bits, Kinect demos, dumb scripted sessions).
I just like simple traditional E3s where some people come on stage and showcase first and third party heavy hitters with a splash of indie montage. Not sure why they try to deviate from that formula.
I'd rather have an E3 where you got live people trying to hype up games in front of an audience. Made even better as sometimes there's fuck ups making it funny. Ya, these shows can be pretty shallow with company reps trying to PR their game system (and their own careers) for gamers, but I still like it.
Only real drawback of E3's is when anyone of them try to make it weird or fluff it up with dumb shit (Sony's musical bits, Kinect demos, dumb scripted sessions).
I just like simple traditional E3s where some people come on stage and showcase first and third party heavy hitters with a splash of indie montage. Not sure why they try to deviate from that formula.
SkylineRKR
Member
I don't really care. Just announce games when they're ready and not far off. Everyone has access to video content. I like those PSX and focused SoP shows more anyway.