EA Cancels Black Panther Game, Closes Cliffhanger Studios
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Gonzito
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clarky
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Shes the narative lead ?
vagabond-
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HeisenbergFX4
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Its never ok to be a racist piece of garbage
ChorizoPicozo
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oh boy
kruis
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She hadn't changed AT ALL. She was a speaker at GDC two months ago, this was the announcement of her talk there. Same obsession with gender and race.
clarky
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Avoid these people as all costs. Cancer.She hadn't changed AT ALL. She was a speaker at GDC two months ago, this was the announcement of her talk there. Same obsession with gender and race.
Coloress_Kafka
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When did that happen??? Only thing I could find is that she was an associate narrative designer.
MARVEL’S BLACK PANTHER Narrative Designer Under Fire For Resurfaced Comments About Not Hiring White Devs
Dani Lalonders, a nonbinary game developer working on Marvel's Black Panther at EA, has come under fire due to comments about previous discriminatory hiring practices resurfacing this week.
Doesn't associate typically mean she's a junior narrative designer???
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
HAHAHAHA better learn how to flip burgers, bitches.
clarky
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Probably because it was turning out to be a woke propaganda piece and thankfully we seem to be getting past that nonsense now.
Ass of Can Whooping
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Back to starbucks courtney 
clarky
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Ok maybe not lead, I made that bit up. Thank god.When did that happen??? Only thing I could find is that she was an associate narrative designer.
MARVEL’S BLACK PANTHER Narrative Designer Under Fire For Resurfaced Comments About Not Hiring White Devs
Dani Lalonders, a nonbinary game developer working on Marvel's Black Panther at EA, has come under fire due to comments about previous discriminatory hiring practices resurfacing this week.gamefragger.com
Doesn't associate typically mean she's a junior narrative designer???
Hideous Snake
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Get fucked, retarded cunts.
Topher
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When did that happen??? Only thing I could find is that she was an associate narrative designer.
MARVEL’S BLACK PANTHER Narrative Designer Under Fire For Resurfaced Comments About Not Hiring White Devs
Dani Lalonders, a nonbinary game developer working on Marvel's Black Panther at EA, has come under fire due to comments about previous discriminatory hiring practices resurfacing this week.
Doesn't associate typically mean she's a junior narrative designer???
Does it matter? If she was white and made statements like that about blacks then she would never work in the industry again.
Mibu no ookami
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As a AAA game that costs 150 million to develop, with a 45 dollar average price per unit sold, you need to sell nearly 5 million units JUST to break even after you account for 20-30% Steam/PSN/Xbox/Nintendo royalties and 5% cut to Epic Games for use of Unreal Engine.
This might not even cover marketing and it doesn't involve the licensing of an IP...
A game like this, realistically would probably have to sell 10 million copies to succeed. That's a tall order in today's climate. We're nearing the point where finished games might get canceled, simply because they're not worth marketing campaigns...
For every 10 million dollars spent in marketing, 325k copies have to sell to pay for the marketing.
The same game using a marvel license probably needs at least 6 million units sold to break even and that's being conservative based on the low end royalties we saw in the insomniac leak. The break even point could be as high as 7 million copies.
This is also assuming a potentially low AAA budget of 150 million.
This might not even cover marketing and it doesn't involve the licensing of an IP...
A game like this, realistically would probably have to sell 10 million copies to succeed. That's a tall order in today's climate. We're nearing the point where finished games might get canceled, simply because they're not worth marketing campaigns...
For every 10 million dollars spent in marketing, 325k copies have to sell to pay for the marketing.
The same game using a marvel license probably needs at least 6 million units sold to break even and that's being conservative based on the low end royalties we saw in the insomniac leak. The break even point could be as high as 7 million copies.
This is also assuming a potentially low AAA budget of 150 million.
Boo Who?
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Wow, a whole three years of experience on games that dozens of people heard of/played? Good fucking riddance you racist piece of shit.She hadn't changed AT ALL. She was a speaker at GDC two months ago, this was the announcement of her talk there. Same obsession with gender and race.
SJRB
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She hadn't changed AT ALL. She was a speaker at GDC two months ago, this was the announcement of her talk there. Same obsession with gender and race.
"Over three years of experience"
Imagine going to GDC and get lectured by an absolute noob whose only concern is skin color and gayness.
yurinka
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Yes. The Sims, Need For Speed, Battlefield or Star Wars Jedi games.
Boo Who?
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I thought this got delayed just recently until next year? I could be wrong though.isn't this supposed to still release this year?
I wonder if this will be cancelled next. it will definitely be delayed that's for sure
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Anything interesting?
HeisenbergFX4
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I couldn't imagine what would have happened if said roles would have been reversed
Lambogenie
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A BP game could've been cool, bit disappointed by this news.
Astray
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Cliffhanger games are comprised of ex-Monolith devs, so that basically ends the entire lineage of that studio.
Looks like I'm going back to ignoring EA. I think they literally only want to produce deeply uninteresting things to me.
Black panther never got off the initial teaser video stage iirc.
Looks like I'm going back to ignoring EA. I think they literally only want to produce deeply uninteresting things to me.
This one is still happening but got delayed.isn't this supposed to still release this year?
I wonder if this will be cancelled next. it will definitely be delayed that's for sure
Black panther never got off the initial teaser video stage iirc.
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Draugoth
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Last year EA CEO Andrew Wilson announced that the company is "moving away from the development of future licensed IP.".
Too expensive for them
Too expensive for them
Mibu no ookami
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isn't this supposed to still release this year?
I wonder if this will be cancelled next. it will definitely be delayed that's for sure
It was already delayed. From 2025 to 2026.
kevboard
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I see.
LavitzSlambert
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I didn't have any particular interest in this game (nor Marvel in general), but it's becoming very clear the industry at large is cutting costs for anything they don't think will be a huge hit, and doubling down on their core franchises. They are not optimistic about sales in the foreseeable future. That sucks for gaming in general, but a silver lining could be more attention available for the smaller AA and indie games that would normally get overlooked.
I wonder how this trend will affect next console generation, will we see fewer games of higher quality, or just fewer games? How many will be cross-gen?
I wonder how this trend will affect next console generation, will we see fewer games of higher quality, or just fewer games? How many will be cross-gen?
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Am I the only one bummed about this??
We have been deprived of the opportunity to watch this game launch and bomb
We have been deprived of the opportunity to watch this game launch and bomb
Angry_Megalodon
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Am I the only one bummed about this??
We have been deprived of the opportunity to watch this game launch and bomb
CCU checkers in shambles.
ElFenomeno
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EA closed a studio? No way.
Topher
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Am I the only one bummed about this??
We have been deprived of the opportunity to watch this game launch and bomb
No new avatar for you
kruis
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Of course. These race grifters don't become racists on the street but on the most expensive universities.
Ass of Can Whooping
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The most privilaged get to to lecture the least privilage on why they're more privilaged
yurinka
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Not for me.
As I remember the last two EA games I bought were Dante's Inferno, Dead Space and Mirror's Edge (the original ones). And before that a bundle with a few games for a 8 bits computer.
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Plague Doctor
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How the fuck is this not bold face racism?
Like literally depriving a job based solely on skin color.
I am normally on the torch EA corpo team but... yeah... after this, I am wondering why it took them so long.
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SuperC
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Why would they make a new dead space game when the remake failed miserably?
proandrad
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Same people that then find someone like HipHopGamer as "problematic."