Robb
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EA Closes Cliffhanger Studios
this is THAT studio....

EA Closes Cliffhanger Studios
this is THAT studio....
When this cull is done, is EA going to do anything outside of sports games and maybe letting Hazelight do something every 3-5 years?
Aggressive stupidity -- like the one in the clip -- is absolutely going on at PlayStation productions. For example, Concord.Funny thing is so many of you want to blame GAAS for Sony issues…. I bet you there's a lot of this going on at Sony….
We still haven't gotten released footage of the Wolverine game with the same Spiderman wall crawling animations…
I'm telling you these studios need to go back to crunch and get rid of all these useless "artists"
I think this is happening at most american Studios nowadays, which explains why almost every game created there lately is a mix of thrash, flops, or at least forgettable games.Funny thing is so many of you want to blame GAAS for Sony issues…. I bet you there's a lot of this going on at Sony….
We still haven't gotten released footage of the Wolverine game with the same Spiderman wall crawling animations…
I'm telling you these studios need to go back to crunch and get rid of all these useless "artists"
Why do these low budget DEI games have the same art style?
At this point it's more of a joke.What exactly makes this a victory for incels?
Monolith. So hilariously ironic that these guys were trifling with WB because they wanted to make a new IP, then decide to go to creativity bastion EA to make a Marvel game that then gets cancelled.Thats the studio that picked up some of the Rocksteady guys yeah?
"Over three years of experience"
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Imagine going to GDC and get lectured by an absolute noob whose only concern is skin color and gayness.
The only people doing the reaching here are the woke artists, towards people non-consensually.It's poor and hackish, but you're seriously reaching.
Monolith. So hilariously ironic that these guys were trifling with WB because they wanted to make a new IP, then decide to go to creativity bastion EA to make a Marvel game that then gets cancelled.
Everybody here, Marvel Games included, is just fucking beyond dumb.
And the same for white on white violence. You got white folks killing their whole family out here but yet black on black violence is very high. Mate, do some research.Well now I understand why it was closed down.
"The best way for the environment to be safe is to be around people who are just like me"
Um, black on black violence is very high. Much more than white on black. But she's retarded so...
I really want to see the concept art and script for this disaster.You just got to wonder how fucking the bad the game was shaping up and/or how little they had to show that this was the better solution.
Don't worry we have Spider Man 3 to look forward to for thatThink of all the cringe shit that must've been in this game. All the potential memes we missed out on. The Pride Armor, the Bharvs, The Professor, "Trigger", BIPOC murals…
It's because these developers hire by identity instead of talent. That inevitably leads to brain drain as they value ideological purity over merit.Why do these low budget DEI games have the same art style? They remind me of that bland style comic books used when they went woke a few years ago.
I don't know how it is in Australia or UK or wherever the fuck you're from, but in the States that loser white guy killing his whole family is a lot less body count than what the hoods are on a daily basis.And the same for white on white violence. You got white folks killing their whole family out here but yet black on black violence is very high. Mate, do some research.
1. Black-on-Black Homicides:
2. White-on-Black Homicides:
- Significantly Higher:Data indicates that the vast majority of Black homicide victims are killed by other Black individuals.
- Disproportionate Impact: Homicide is a leading cause of death for young Black men.
- Intra-racial Nature: While this fact can be uncomfortable to discuss, it is crucial to acknowledge the reality of intra-racial violence within communities.
- Lower Incidence:Compared to Black-on-Black homicides, White-on-Black homicides are far less frequent.
Schizo response.The only people doing the reaching here are the woke artists, towards people non-consensually.
Canada doesn't release crime incidents categorized by race. And if they do, it's hard to find doing internet checks. But the US releases shit tons of public info for everyone to see.I don't know how it is in Australia or UK or wherever the fuck you're from, but in the States that loser white guy killing his whole family is a lot less body count than what the hoods are on a daily basis.
Even google agrees with my original statement about black on black and white on black violence.
As an older white man of 58 years who played sports at the very highest levels I can say I played with people of most races and never once did I feel the need to remotely think I needed to play on an all white team because it made me feel safeAs a black man I KINDA understand what she was saying BUT I'd want a group of people from all walks of life chiming in on how to make a GREAT story. A truly collaborative effort pulling from TRUE fans of the character. Put in lore from the comics, real world history (which doesn't need editorializing), and a truly imaginative story that mixes great drama with great action!
I hope they make a Black Panther/Wakanda game one day as he's one of my favorite characters along with Steve Rogers, Luke Cage, Peter Parker, Sam Wilson and pretty much all X-Men (except for a few).
Schizo response.
Yeah, it's a bit disconcerting when someone says, "As race X, I can see where the racist is coming from".As an older white man of 58 years who played sports at the very highest levels I can say I played with people of most races and never once did I feel the need to remotely think I needed to play on an all white team because it made me feel safe
I never remotely cared what the color of your skin was, just get the job done and treat me with respect and you got the same from me
What do you mean as a lack man you understand? Is the suggestion all black people are racist?lAs a black man I KINDA understand what she was saying BUT I'd want a group of people from all walks of life chiming in on how to make a GREAT story. A truly collaborative effort pulling from TRUE fans of the character. Put in lore from the comics, real world history (which doesn't need editorializing), and a truly imaginative story that mixes great drama with great action!
I hope they make a Black Panther/Wakanda game one day as he's one of my favorite characters along with Steve Rogers, Luke Cage, Peter Parker, Sam Wilson and pretty much all X-Men (except for a few).
As a black man I KINDA understand what she was saying BUT I'd want a group of people from all walks of life chiming in on how to make a GREAT story. A truly collaborative effort pulling from TRUE fans of the character. Put in lore from the comics, real world history (which doesn't need editorializing), and a truly imaginative story that mixes great drama with great action!
I hope they make a Black Panther/Wakanda game one day as he's one of my favorite characters along with Steve Rogers, Luke Cage, Peter Parker, Sam Wilson and pretty much all X-Men (except for a few).
When it comes to any organization, how about just hire the person who seems like the best fit in terms of personality, qualifications, and can fit the budget. And the aim is to put together a great team to win.As an older white man of 58 years who played sports at the very highest levels I can say I played with people of most races and never once did I feel the need to remotely think I needed to play on an all white team because it made me feel safe
I never remotely cared what the color of your skin was, just get the job done and treat me with respect and you got the same from me
heh you edited that just as I was typing out imagine where sports teams would be if they were forced to hire their athletes just based on skin color first and foremostWhen it comes to any organization, how about just hire the person who seems like the best fit in terms of personality, qualifications, and can fit the budget. And the aim is to put together a great team to win.
HeisenbergFX4 being an experienced athlete says it best. It's probably the ultimate in juggling performance, attitude and budget without needing to shoehorn in DEI loser policies. You dont see a sports team purposely saying they got to sign Player X due to race, Player Y due to age, Player Z due to gender or whatever other demographic metric something can think of.
Just imagine if the Leafs, Jays or Raptors had to follow DEI ratio rules . Instead of building the best team they can, they purposely construct a team that reflects the GTA demographics. It would be something like:
10 whites, 4 Asians, 4 Indians, 1 Mid East, 1 Black.
And that doesn't even involve adjusting it to take into account age, gender, language etc...
Seriously,the day that shit muncher Schreier started poking around hard on AAA studios about crunch issues was the day this industry turned into the lazy,uninspired,bloated fest of useless hires it has become.Funny thing is so many of you want to blame GAAS for Sony issues…. I bet you there's a lot of this going on at Sony….
We still haven't gotten released footage of the Wolverine game with the same Spiderman wall crawling animations…
I'm telling you these studios need to go back to crunch and get rid of all these useless "artists"
I remember a survey years ago asking about crunch, and a lot of video game employees said they dont even get crunched. So the whole perception of crunch is probably overexagerrated.Seriously,the day that shit muncher Schreier started poking around hard on AAA studios about crunch issues was the day this industry turned into the lazy,uninspired,bloated fest of useless hires it has become.
That's why we start seeing these AA studios with 30-50 people putting these awful mismanaged AAA studios to shame with their 300 to 1000 developers that do nothing all day except waste fucking time and money sitting at their desks with their dick in their hand(that's if they don't go on strike for having to actually go to the office and not pretend working from home)while having nervous breakdowns on twitter every 3 days about stuff most of the time not even related to the game they are supposedly "working" on.
The sooner this whole cesspool of AAA publishers implodes on itself with all these worthless hirings that have done nothing but bloat the budgets to absurd amounts,the better the industry as a whole will be.
I don't understand. She's such a talented game dev. Her game Validate is a modern art masterpiece. Check it out. EA don't know what they are losing with this cancelation.
Hundreds of people lose their job but it's awesome because one of them was a racist idiot. Am I doing it right? I am all about not giving these types of ideas she has a platform, but let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. When we use a singular date point to pass judgement on a particular group, we are giving in to confirmation bias. This is the same type of funny math this woman is doing to pass judgement on all white people.
I've seen others say it speaks to the character of the people the studio hires, but I would like to point out that I'm sure we can find a piece of shit on any team that numbers in the hundreds, hell in the dozens.
Granted I only made it through page 2, so maybe there is evidence of the entire studio holding similar shitty ideas.
It's hard to get an image of devs working so hard at these big studios when every time there's a fucking video inside a studio it shows everyone smiling ear to ear like they are on lucky night in a gay bar,sitting in hammocks writting like they are vegetables or riding their electric scooters between cubicles like they're shooting a live action south park episode.I remember a survey years ago asking about crunch, and a lot of video game employees said they dont even get crunched. So the whole perception of crunch is probably overexagerrated.
I think a lot of us who dont work in the industry (myself included) read all these articles with employees complaining and get an image that working at EA, or T2 or whichever company big or small and every person there works 14 hour days and brings a sleeping bag to work. So all us gamers have to give them a pat on the back and feel pity. So give them all a break and buy their game.
No I understand why they lost there jobs, I'm commenting on the people that are celebrating specifically because one of the team members was an awful person.Lets put aside the shitty ideas argument.
Hundreds of people lost their job because they were NOT able to produce a game. Even if those hundreds of people were legimetely hired (highly unlikely), they proved themselves unfit for the job. That Starbucks chick may be the nicest person in this world, but she can't work in the videogame industry at a managerial level.
As a player, I mostly want to enjoy good games. If they can't make good games, I want someone else in their place. It's that simple.
Finding out that they are assholes is the cherry on top.
All new products at my company have an internal ship date I'd estimate about 1 year out from release. So everyone internal knows about it and so does the stores who buy form us.It's hard to get an image of devs working so hard at these big studios when every time there's a fucking video inside a studio it shows everyone smiling ear to ear like they are on lucky night in a gay bar,sitting in hammocks writting like they are vegetables or riding their electric scooters between cubicles like they're shooting a live action south park episode.
The thing with crunch is it eliminates the people who are just there for the pay and nothing else because no lazy cunt in any job out there will stay working at a company that forces them to dedicate their valuable "me time" into the project's time.
We tried the non crunch way and what we got was 8 year development cycles,80 dollar games,500+ people workforce and hundreds of millions of dollars per project cost. That shit is and will be unsustainable and big companies are starting to realise it...only took countless of cancelations,studio closures and billions wasted but they're getting there...
What do you mean as a lack man you understand? Is the suggestion all black people are racist?l