The issue is not the $115,000 the average developer earns, the issue is that the CEO earns tens of millions for contributing fuck all to the process.I genuinely do not understand these game journalist's and REEEera types crusade for developers pay and hours. They act like low level employees making $150,000 a year with ultra premium benefit packages for pecking at computers in fake work from home Pajamas, or in luxury air conditioned buildings with artisanal juice bars and nap corners is the 9th circle of hell. These are the most first world people in the first world earning top 10% salaries and benefits, they're not installing roofs in 120 degree summers for $10/hour.
You think low-level employees make $150K?I genuinely do not understand these game journalist's and REEEera types crusade for developers pay and hours. They act like low level employees making $150,000 a year with ultra premium benefit packages for pecking at computers in fake work from home Pajamas, or in luxury air conditioned buildings with artisanal juice bars and nap corners is the 9th circle of hell. These are the most first world people in the first world earning top 10% salaries and benefits, they're not installing roofs in 120 degree summers for $10/hour.
It's a fucking CEO
Not some coding donkey
The issue is not the $115,000 the average developer earns, the issue is that the CEO earns tens of millions for contributing fuck all to the process.
if you don't see an issue with that, good luck with your future career as an executive!
The issue is not the $115,000 the average developer earns, the issue is that the CEO earns tens of millions for contributing fuck all to the process.
if you don't see an issue with that, good luck with your future career as an executive!
You think low-level employees make $150K?
Yeaaaaah, not sure where they got that number from, lmao.You think low-level employees make $150K?
Your honor, I object!Andrew Wilson is most definitely a donkey.
I'd argue that pro athletes contribute more to the income their salaries are paid from than the average CEO.pro athlete salaries are more ridiculous if you ask me.
The issue is not the $115,000 the average developer earns, the issue is that the CEO earns tens of millions for contributing fuck all to the process.
if you don't see an issue with that, good luck with your future career as an executive!
You're within your rights to dislike Andrew Wilson, but the fact is that he has been a very effective CEO for EA. You can thank the army of whales that pay into Ultimate Team, Apex Legends, and continue to buy enough into Battlefield, paid into both Battlefronts, etc.Your honor, I object!
Donkeys can at least be remotely useful.
I hate to admit it, but you're right.It's a fucking CEO
Not some coding donkey
At one point, he mandated that all of the EA studios use Frostbite. While that worked for the sports games (they are just annual roster refreshes for the most part, after all), he basically gutted BioWare there and then.You're within your rights to dislike Andrew Wilson, but the fact is that he has been a very effective CEO for EA.
Affectionately and commonly referred to as 'failing upwards'.But the part I don't understand is how CEOs who obviously tank the enterprise get out with golden parachutes and snatched up by some other company. What a grift.
I genuinely do not understand these game journalist's and REEEera types crusade for developers pay and hours. They act like low level employees making $150,000 a year with ultra premium benefit packages for pecking at computers in fake work from home Pajamas, or in luxury air conditioned buildings with artisanal juice bars and nap corners is the 9th circle of hell. These are the most first world people in the first world earning top 10% salaries and benefits, they're not installing roofs in 120 degree summers for $10/hour.
The issue is not the $115,000 the average developer earns, the issue is that the CEO earns tens of millions for contributing fuck all to the process.
if you don't see an issue with that, good luck with your future career as an executive!
It's a fucking CEO
Not some coding donkey
Ya know, I sure don't know a lot about him. So I looked him up. Became CEO in September 2013.You can tell who knows of Andrew Wilson and who doesn't ITT.
The blanket statements about how valuable CEOs are don't apply to someone who was handed EA when their I.P. were firing on all cylinders, and then closed all of those doors over the next decade to turn them into the just a primarily-sports company, featuring Star Wars.
My point isn't about the amount of money he has made the company. A lot of CEOs can help make a line go up. His era of EA has done very well with their Futbol and Football games. It's everything else that's the problem.Ya know, I sure don't know a lot about him. So I looked him up. Became CEO in September 2013.
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*shrug*
So your point is 'blanket statements about value' don't apply when you personally don't like the direction a company takes. That's not a point at all.My point isn't about the amount of money he has made the company. A lot of CEOs can help make a line go up. His era of EA has done very well with their Futbol and Football games. It's everything else that's the problem.
I suppose yes, why bother paying developers when you can lay them off, shut down their studios, cancel their projects, and take more money for yourself instead
There is no issue with that, it's not your company and the company doesn't run on your money, you don't decide. If investors think employees should be paid more they'd pressure the board to make it so, but regular employees have been shown to not influence the company anywhere as much as execs and execs don't influence the company anywhere near as much as the CEO, hence the CEO should be the most compensated in order to keep him on the job. Good ceos are mega rare, good programmers and dei consultants are a dime a dozen.The issue is not the $115,000 the average developer earns, the issue is that the CEO earns tens of millions for contributing fuck all to the process.
if you don't see an issue with that, good luck with your future career as an executive!
Where is your profile pic from lolMaybe they should apply their resources and energy to sectors that actually screw their employees, like for example how much does McDonald's or Kroger's CEO make Vs. their $12/hour employees? Or big conglomerate general contractor CEO's working mostly illegals like slaves for pennies on the dollar? Who cares if 1 guy makes $30 million in stock options in a company of 15,000 employees if everyone else still makes more than literally 98% of people on planet earth. It's retardation of the highest order to be advocating for these people's salaries and hours, they work far less and make far more than 99% of the people reading these stories or posting on GAF.
Developers yes, absolutely, quadruplely so in the US. The median wage is dragged down by secretaries, maintenance, janitors, QA, paid interns, and low level office administration staff.
It may feel like that from time to time. But look at the first reply in their thread:Did I just entered resetera by mistake ?
...that's all you got from my post?So your point is 'blanket statements about value' don't apply when you personally don't like the direction a company takes. That's not a point at all.
Sad trueIt may feel like that from time to time. But look at the first reply in their thread:
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As you can see the random communist who grew up without a father figure instantly fantasizes about murder when confronted with the concept of a decent salary. What he doesn't do? Spend time and effort developing a skill that is somewhat valuable in the job market.
Where is your profile pic from lol
These articles from these socialist gaming journalists are tiring.