EA CEO’s pay is up as EA worker median income drops

I genuinely do not understand these game journalist's and REEEera types crusade for developers pay and hours. They act like low level employees making $150,000 a year with ultra premium benefit packages for pecking at computers in fake work from home Pajamas, or in luxury air conditioned buildings with artisanal juice bars and nap corners is the 9th circle of hell. These are the most first world people in the first world earning top 10% salaries and benefits, they're not installing roofs in 120 degree summers for $10/hour.
 
I genuinely do not understand these game journalist's and REEEera types crusade for developers pay and hours. They act like low level employees making $150,000 a year with ultra premium benefit packages for pecking at computers in fake work from home Pajamas, or in luxury air conditioned buildings with artisanal juice bars and nap corners is the 9th circle of hell. These are the most first world people in the first world earning top 10% salaries and benefits, they're not installing roofs in 120 degree summers for $10/hour.
The issue is not the $115,000 the average developer earns, the issue is that the CEO earns tens of millions for contributing fuck all to the process.

if you don't see an issue with that, good luck with your future career as an executive!
 
The thing is... the reason CEOs make the big bucks is because they put companies on the path to become these mega-rich multi-billion dollar companies, and losing them could allow for competition to poach them and so on and so forth. I get why the shareholders give these big payouts to the C-Suite of a highly profitably company.

But EA is in shambles, and they have been for a very long time. I'm guessing those FUT cards are keeping him rich :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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I genuinely do not understand these game journalist's and REEEera types crusade for developers pay and hours. They act like low level employees making $150,000 a year with ultra premium benefit packages for pecking at computers in fake work from home Pajamas, or in luxury air conditioned buildings with artisanal juice bars and nap corners is the 9th circle of hell. These are the most first world people in the first world earning top 10% salaries and benefits, they're not installing roofs in 120 degree summers for $10/hour.
You think low-level employees make $150K?
 
The issue is not the $115,000 the average developer earns, the issue is that the CEO earns tens of millions for contributing fuck all to the process.

if you don't see an issue with that, good luck with your future career as an executive!

He is contributing by taking decisions.
The question is, does he take the correct decisions to really pay him that much?

Most of these companies nowadays have CEOs that do not care about the company's future. Their aim is to get the fat bonus check and gtfo.
 
The issue is not the $115,000 the average developer earns, the issue is that the CEO earns tens of millions for contributing fuck all to the process.

if you don't see an issue with that, good luck with your future career as an executive!

Maybe they should apply their resources and energy to sectors that actually screw their employees, like for example how much does McDonald's or Kroger's CEO make Vs. their $12/hour employees? Or big conglomerate general contractor CEO's working mostly illegals like slaves for pennies on the dollar? Who cares if 1 guy makes $30 million in stock options in a company of 15,000 employees if everyone else still makes more than literally 98% of people on planet earth. It's retardation of the highest order to be advocating for these people's salaries and hours, they work far less and make far more than 99% of the people reading these stories or posting on GAF.

You think low-level employees make $150K?

Developers yes, absolutely, quadruplely so in the US. The median wage is dragged down by secretaries, maintenance, janitors, QA, paid interns, and low level office administration staff.
 
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Ya it's called life and this is what happens folks. A CEO aka an asshole in a suit makes a boatload of cash doing fuck alo besides being a corporate face gets a ton of money while the little man/woman gets to bust their asses off trying to make mr suit look good. It happens in every single company with a CEO and it's been going on for decades sadly.
 
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In addition to productivity, employees are compensated by the level of risk they have the capability to expose their company to. A CEO isn't 100x harder-working and productive than an entry-level employee, but the decisions & outcomes that ultimately land on their heads expose the company to 100x the risk.

But the part I don't understand is how CEOs who obviously tank the enterprise get out with golden parachutes and snatched up by some other company. What a grift.
 
The issue is not the $115,000 the average developer earns, the issue is that the CEO earns tens of millions for contributing fuck all to the process.

if you don't see an issue with that, good luck with your future career as an executive!

Your honor, I object!

Donkeys can at least be remotely useful.
You're within your rights to dislike Andrew Wilson, but the fact is that he has been a very effective CEO for EA. You can thank the army of whales that pay into Ultimate Team, Apex Legends, and continue to buy enough into Battlefield, paid into both Battlefronts, etc.

More charitably, he has also facilitated the Josef Fares trio of mega successes and the EA Originals program.
 
You're within your rights to dislike Andrew Wilson, but the fact is that he has been a very effective CEO for EA.
At one point, he mandated that all of the EA studios use Frostbite. While that worked for the sports games (they are just annual roster refreshes for the most part, after all), he basically gutted BioWare there and then.

Now, did BioWare make many mistakes along the way? Absolutely. Does the BioWare of yore even exist anymore? Fuck no. But the Frostbite mandate didn't *loading* (just channeling Anthem here) certainly didn't help.

And the third-party publishing is just that, publishing. He doesn't apparently mess much with the actual content.
 
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I genuinely do not understand these game journalist's and REEEera types crusade for developers pay and hours. They act like low level employees making $150,000 a year with ultra premium benefit packages for pecking at computers in fake work from home Pajamas, or in luxury air conditioned buildings with artisanal juice bars and nap corners is the 9th circle of hell. These are the most first world people in the first world earning top 10% salaries and benefits, they're not installing roofs in 120 degree summers for $10/hour.

I work in technology (not games) and barely do anything, for over $115k. It's a joke.

Then these are the same white collar workers who vote super leftie and pretend like they are part of the "working class", it's hysterical. I grew up in a small rural town where people actually work themselves to death in metal foundries, and most of those guys vote red. IDK what the hell is going on but it's confusing as hell to me.
 
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The issue is not the $115,000 the average developer earns, the issue is that the CEO earns tens of millions for contributing fuck all to the process.

if you don't see an issue with that, good luck with your future career as an executive!

He's just mad he can't work from home and makes sub $150k.
 
You can tell who knows of Andrew Wilson and who doesn't ITT.

The blanket statements about how valuable CEOs are don't apply to someone who was handed EA when their I.P. were firing on all cylinders, and then closed all of those doors over the next decade to turn them into the just a primarily-sports company, featuring Star Wars.
 
You can tell who knows of Andrew Wilson and who doesn't ITT.

The blanket statements about how valuable CEOs are don't apply to someone who was handed EA when their I.P. were firing on all cylinders, and then closed all of those doors over the next decade to turn them into the just a primarily-sports company, featuring Star Wars.
Ya know, I sure don't know a lot about him. So I looked him up. Became CEO in September 2013.
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*shrug*
 
Ya know, I sure don't know a lot about him. So I looked him up. Became CEO in September 2013.
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*shrug*
My point isn't about the amount of money he has made the company. A lot of CEOs can help make a line go up. His era of EA has done very well with their Futbol and Football games. It's everything else that's the problem.

It is an odd juxtaposition for some posters here to talk about the amazing heyday of EA and at the same time run defense for a guy who was in charge of the changes that took all of those I.P. away from them.

I say this time and time again on this forum, but things don't have to be one or the other. There will be times in life where you will disagree with a friend and agree with an enemy. So again, people here don't have to defend Andrew Wilson just because of the person/people who brought up this information as a negative. There's no reward or 'gotcha' in doing so.
 
My point isn't about the amount of money he has made the company. A lot of CEOs can help make a line go up. His era of EA has done very well with their Futbol and Football games. It's everything else that's the problem.
So your point is 'blanket statements about value' don't apply when you personally don't like the direction a company takes. That's not a point at all.
 
The issue is not the $115,000 the average developer earns, the issue is that the CEO earns tens of millions for contributing fuck all to the process.

if you don't see an issue with that, good luck with your future career as an executive!
There is no issue with that, it's not your company and the company doesn't run on your money, you don't decide. If investors think employees should be paid more they'd pressure the board to make it so, but regular employees have been shown to not influence the company anywhere as much as execs and execs don't influence the company anywhere near as much as the CEO, hence the CEO should be the most compensated in order to keep him on the job. Good ceos are mega rare, good programmers and dei consultants are a dime a dozen.
 
Maybe they should apply their resources and energy to sectors that actually screw their employees, like for example how much does McDonald's or Kroger's CEO make Vs. their $12/hour employees? Or big conglomerate general contractor CEO's working mostly illegals like slaves for pennies on the dollar? Who cares if 1 guy makes $30 million in stock options in a company of 15,000 employees if everyone else still makes more than literally 98% of people on planet earth. It's retardation of the highest order to be advocating for these people's salaries and hours, they work far less and make far more than 99% of the people reading these stories or posting on GAF.



Developers yes, absolutely, quadruplely so in the US. The median wage is dragged down by secretaries, maintenance, janitors, QA, paid interns, and low level office administration staff.
Where is your profile pic from lol
 
Did I just entered resetera by mistake ?
It may feel like that from time to time. But look at the first reply in their thread:
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As you can see the random communist who grew up without a father figure instantly fantasizes about murder when confronted with the concept of a decent salary. What he doesn't do? Spend time and effort developing a skill that is somewhat valuable in the job market.
 
It may feel like that from time to time. But look at the first reply in their thread:
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As you can see the random communist who grew up without a father figure instantly fantasizes about murder when confronted with the concept of a decent salary. What he doesn't do? Spend time and effort developing a skill that is somewhat valuable in the job market.
Sad true
 
Where is your profile pic from lol

It's a screen grab from one of Sony's woke state of plays like where they had that Volcano High furry weirdo game. This was from "We are OFK" which from what I gathered from the SoP trailer was about a gay BLM musical band, thematically very similar to that Dustborn game that was all the rage. Hashtag#4ThePander
 
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you know, guys, there's a middle ground between a REE socialist and the bootlicker of a megalomaniac whose final goal is to turn gaming into AI-generated slop.

With the current policies, EA will crush and burn exactly the same as Ubisoft or Bungie, and dudes like this CEO are to blame.
 
Burnout
SSX
Sim City
Command & Conquer
Wing Commander
Ultima
Dungeon Keeper
Populous
Syndicate
Titanfall
Road Rash
Strike (Desert Strike, Jungle Strike, etc.)

All of these IPs EA's got and does nothing with. Instead, Wilson is letting his studios work on Marvel and Star Wars shit and still trying to turn Battlefield into a live-service game (this time it will work guys! For real!)

Dude might be an even worse CEO than John Riccitiello.
 
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