Why would you sack the CEO of company thats making bank and its shares are close to all time highs?He is certainly failing up. Amazing that he is still the CEO there. Should have been booted a long time ago.
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Why would you sack the CEO of company thats making bank and its shares are close to all time highs?
They won't, not for years at this point. He was very fortunate to enter during the rise of MTX in gaming and helped guide their sports division to utilizing MTX to it's absolute maximum potential. Apex also helped for a time.Why would you sack the CEO of company thats making bank and its shares are close to all time highs?
Nuance and middle grounds are slowly becoming a thing of the past. It's also why comedy doesn't work like it used to.you know, guys, there's a middle ground between a REE socialist and the bootlicker of a megalomaniac whose final goal is to turn gaming into AI-generated slop.
With the current policies, EA will crush and burn exactly the same as Ubisoft or Bungie, and dudes like this CEO are to blame.
Unsure what you mean by that. Clearly the company has done gangbusters since he got the job. He doesn't just spin around in his office chair all day I'm sure.As I said he has failed up.
Can't all be luck. We might not like their output nor the fucking obscene amount of money he gets paid but he's clearly doing something right.They won't, not for years at this point. He was very fortunate to enter during the rise of MTX in gaming and helped guide their sports division to utilizing MTX to it's absolute maximum potential. Apex also helped for a time.
Nuance and middle grounds are slowly becoming a thing of the past. It's also why comedy doesn't work like it used to.
People see nothing wrong with instantly choosing a side once a news piece hits. It can be a bit...saddening.
That's why I said he helped guide their sports division to maximum profits. I am aware of his influence on profits, but I personally feel that it is odd of people here to complain about EA's dwindling output over the past decade yet cheer at this development.Can't all be luck. We might not like their output nor the fucking obscene amount of money he gets paid but he's clearly doing something right.
Because people earning more money is unfairWhy would you sack the CEO of company thats making bank and its shares are close to all time highs?
Yeah I get what you are saying. I'm not moaning about their output, just merely commenting that he seems to be doing a pretty good job at making the shareholders and himself a load of bank.That's why I said he helped guide their sports division to maximum profits. I am aware of his influence on profits, but I personally feel that it is odd of people here to complain about EA's dwindling output over the past decade yet cheer at this development.
I don't know if they are aware, or if they refuse to understand the correlation, or if they are bullishly trying to have their cake and eat it too.
Unsure what you mean by that. Clearly the company has done gangbusters since he got the job. He doesn't just spin around in his office chair all day I'm sure.
Can't all be luck. We might not like their output nor the fucking obscene amount of money he gets paid but he's clearly doing something right.
Yeah I get what you are saying. I'm not moaning about their output, just merely commenting that he seems to be doing a pretty good job at making the shareholders and himself a load of bank.
I'm here to discuss games and the games industry. Never said I was fan.And this is what we're here for, after all this is an Andrew Wilson and shareholders enthusiast forum.
And in saying this two things can be true. He is great for profits and shareholders, but bad for output and catalogue. If more and more future projects are cut, then one could theoretically claim he is resting on his laurels, which would pretty much be the sports games and their MTX.Yeah I get what you are saying. I'm not moaning about their output, just merely commenting that he seems to be doing a pretty good job at making the shareholders and himself a load of bank.
Don't they publish stuff like Split fiction, It Takes Two, Dead Space and those Jedi games as well? Seems like ok output to me, although none are of particular interest to me personally.And in saying this two things can be true. He is great for profits and shareholders, but bad for output and catalogue. If more and more future projects are cut, then one could theoretically claim he is resting on his laurels, which would pretty much be the sports games and their MTX.
Those alone are enough to fulfill a profit quota, while the rest of their I.P. catalogue is held hostage for decades.
In shambles?But EA is in shambles, and they have been for a very long time. I'm guessing those FUT cards are keeping him rich![]()
I'm here to discuss games and the games industry. Never said I was fan.
Seems like your here to add absolutely fuck all to the discussion.
Great, insults as well. Fuck off.You're here to suck the virtual cock of an absolute parasite that's feeding off the industry because it makes equally petty cockroaches money.
I'm here to talk games.
Yes, but think about those few, paltry amount of titles compared to what they used to release. Their older catalogues (arguably up until mid-PS4) are what gave them their image of being one of the Big 3. They even used to be a trendsetter at one point.Don't they publish stuff like Split fiction, It Takes Two, Dead Space and those Jedi games as well? Seems like ok output to me, although none are of particular interest to me personally.
You're targeting the wrong guy. He is bringing up a valid point of discussion. Your sights should be set on posters from page 1.You're here to suck the virtual cock of an absolute parasite that's feeding off the industry because it makes equally petty cockroaches money.
I'm here to talk games.
You're targeting the wrong guy. He is bringing up a valid point of discussion. Your sights should be set on posters from page 1.
Im Struggling to think of something I'd like to see from them to be honest apart from Titanfall 3?Yes, but think about those few, paltry amount of titles compared to what they used to release. Their older catalogues (arguably up until mid-PS4) are what gave them their image of being one of the Big 3. They even used to be a trendsetter at one point.
On a side note, thankfully Joseph Farez was smart enough to not let them buy his studio and instead just utilize them as a publisher.
You're targeting the wrong guy. He is bringing up a valid point of discussion. Your sights should be set on posters from page 1.
I'd hardly call 12 years short term. When exactly is this going to go tits up for him?"Andrew Wilson is doing a good job" is an irreconcilable thing to say. Sure he's making bank on the short term, but his (and his cohorts) strategy will eventually lead to a crash once investors are put off by the non exponential phantom growth of the industry. There's nothing to celebrate here unless one likes to play Shareholder Tycoon Autism LARP Simulator.
Looks nicer as well so that would be a bonus.Jade Ryamond is available and can replace him for prob half that, and do four times as little.
The funny thing is their back catalogue is huge and varied enough to not even need original I.P. and that's not even including EA Big and EA Originals.Im Struggling to think of something I'd like to see from them to be honest apart from Titanfall 3?
Maybe something original but with the cost of game dev in the west these days that's highly unlikely.
Again, like I said above, two things can be true at once. He is making the company money to the detriment of many, including gamers."Andrew Wilson is doing a good job" is an irreconcilable thing to say. Sure he's making bank on the short term, but his (and his cohorts) strategy will eventually lead to a crash once investors are put off by the non exponential phantom growth of the industry. There's nothing to celebrate here unless one likes to play Shareholder Tycoon Autism LARP Simulator.
I'd hardly call 12 years short term. When exactly is this going to go tits up for him?
I agree with you, I never said that he's done a good job looking at it from the perspective of a gamer.Soon. It's better to be lucky than good, but luck eventually runs out.
I have nothing against the Terminator, I'm sure he's a nice guy, probably one of the funniest guys you can find around Epstein Island. But you HAVE to admit EA has done a piss poor job at sustaining any IP that doesn't rely solely on licenses. This is a terrible recipe for business in an industry centered around IP recognition, short term gains notwithstanding.
He is."Andrew Wilson is doing a good job" is an irreconcilable thing to say. Sure he's making bank on the short term, but his (and his cohorts) strategy will eventually lead to a crash once investors are put off by the non exponential phantom growth of the industry. There's nothing to celebrate here unless one likes to play Shareholder Tycoon Autism LARP Simulator.
I agree with you, I never said that he's done a good job looking at it from the perspective of a gamer.
However he's consistently made EA and it's shareholders a hell of a lot of money that does not look like slowing down any time soon. FIFA (sorry EAFC) makes an absolute fortune, even after he gambled and told FIFA to fuck off.
Never said I liked the guy, seems like a bit of a twat, but I've never met him so what would I know.
All good. Be a bit boring if we all agreed.Well, I don't really agree with you, but I do apologize for the hostility earlier. You're a based Candle Cove enjoyer so that was uncalled by me!
I just really hate the place the industry is in right now. Booming in creativity, but shit's looking dire for publicly traded companies once investors don't get immediate return for their money.
It's not about immediate returns, it's about return at all.I just really hate the place the industry is in right now. Booming in creativity, but shit's looking dire for publicly traded companies once investors don't get immediate return for their money.
Kek looking them up was hilarious, thanksIt's a screen grab from one of Sony's woke state of plays like where they had that Volcano High furry weirdo game. This was from "We are OFK" which from what I gathered from the SoP trailer was about a gay BLM musical band, thematically very similar to that Dustborn game that was all the rage. Hashtag#4ThePander
It's not about immediate returns, it's about return at all.
Booming in creativity, but out of 10 indie/A games 9 will fail.
People here just want investors to throw away money "for the sake of creativity" even though it will be just burning money for nothing most of the time (they don't care).
People don't their own money and it's so easy to spend others money.
They are making EAFC. It's a good product for what it is - all competitors bailed out and even FIFA license for anyone to take - no contenders.Short term returns isn't much better than no returns, and while EA is obviously doing this for longer than "short term" would describe, I think the strategy is ultimately going to self cannibalize itself. They haven't done a good product in ages and they are making money off the margins (this is oversimplifying, but bear with me) because investors look at monetization growth and go "WOW I better get in on that action". But this whole thing is a house of cards because EA hasn't exactly churned out a good product in FOREVER.
What is the problem with EAFC? There is no better product on horizon, and how "good" product is always measured against alternatives and not some wild fantasies.If you want to succeed, you need to deliver good products and not just good results, or your results eventually won't be good at all.
And you and many others just jealous and salty that EA are making money on FC and ditch to sidelines SP games (same as Kotick did in ATVI). Not abandoned, but clearly not a priority.
But companies that did made SP games priority - they recently have problems, one after another. So it's probably not an "investor greed" or anything else, just clear denial of market shift.
What investors? You have ZERO idea how investment business operates, just some bullshit layman rumors from internet.Really? I'm JELLY over all this success? Like I said, I don't think this strategy works out once investors stop seeing that exponential growth possibility.
I am a gaming fan. I am not bothered with EA success. There are a lot of space for many companies. I played gaas since 98 so I'm completely fine if some companies find their place in them, unlike "waah, they abandoned so many sp franchises" crowd.but speaking purely as a gaming fan, I think his legacy is ultimately going to be a shit one. When Call of Duty is still somehow racking up the millions and Battlefield is dead along with EA's rotting corpse, we can talk about EAFC again.
What investors? You have ZERO idea how investment business operates, just some bullshit layman rumors from internet.
It's far less imaginary than you think. I worked in investments for many years, earned a buck or two from it.LARP away friend, just remember to clean your face from that imaginary Vanguard and BlackRock moneyshot.
unable to parse the moment where i mention FUT cards keeping him going.Why people like equality without merit so much, it was proven not to work well.
In shambles?
It has profit margin of 21% (above industry average) and stable profit of 1 bn per year.
You might not like it operational model, but EA is a successful company with stable results
Objectively it's wrong. Subjectively it's your opinion no one really care about.to break it down simply for you
The business is obviously doing successful, but for all the wrong reasons, ie why to gamers EA is in shambles.
mr fun at parties over here.Objectively it's wrong. Subjectively it's your opinion no one really care about.
Like you can honestly believe that companies should sell you 200mil$ game for 10$ a copy otherwise it's "in shambles". Okay, it's your opinion, but all it states that company doesn't cater to yours particular tastes/wishes. Who cares, based on actual performance there are enough of people who are ok with this approach and EA caters to them, having a healthy balance between own results and players satisfaction. You are not in this crowd and wanna football game? bad for you. There are seems no one who wants to cater to your specific tastes to put it into business.
It's always a tradeoff between company interests and players interests. If company too greedy - players will leave and results will drop. If company too generous - it will have no money, complicating it's future.