I don't know of any digital retailer that doesn't take a 30% cut, including Origin.
EA explains why they release games only on Origin
- Thread starter Stumpokapow
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I don't know of any digital retailer that doesn't take a 30% cut, including Origin.
BBQMan
Member
Its unnecessary clutter, that shouldn't have been needed at all. Fuck I have to have Steam, Origin and Battlelog Open to arrange shit with friends. Origin is awful and a mistake, nothing but trash.
Whatever'sComfortable
Banned
Do people have a problem with Origin?
I like it, though most of my friends are on Steam.
I like it, though most of my friends are on Steam.
Woody Invincible
Banned
Opened thread to view ignorant steam hate, and I was not disappointed whatsoever.
ebullientprism
Member
Honestly, aside from a few hardcore Steam nutters I see on GAF very few people will actually refuse to buy a game because its not on Steam. For most people if a game you really like needs Origin instead of Steam, you just buy it there.
Especially considering Origin is actually a pretty decent software unlike Uplay, GFWL, R*Social club etc.
If BF4, ME3 etc were also on Steam, I would bet the total money EA make wouldnt be much lower than it being Origin exclusive. Since they are persisting with Origin leads me to beleive that its actually higher.
Xamtheking
Member
Just because they have the numbers on Origin does not mean the numbers will transfer over to Steam without a scratch
It's clutter, and it's annoying.
Right now I have:
Steam
Origin
Uplay
GoG
Launching games through two clients sometimes (TW3, Far Cry, for example) means twice the chance that something will go wrong (crashes associated with client, client down time, issues logging in, etc...).
It isn't consumer friendly, and it's annoying.
dgrdsv
Member
The problem I have with Origin is that I'd rather buy everything EA produces on Steam but they don't give me that option. 'Cause Origin.
cm osi
Member
their games, their shop. why they should give valve a free 30%?
if you want everything on pc, you'll have multiple store, can't have everyone pay tribute to valve for that.
BBQMan
Member
I wish all games did this. Battlefield peaks at around 28K. But there is zero doubt in my mind the games would have a larger player base if they were on steam.
MS persisted with GFWL and we know how that went. EA are hoping that in the long run Origin can be on par with Steam but it wont and in a couple of years it will closed down or rebranded.
Seems terrible to have to manage, especially on a device that has trouble having multiple programs running at the same time.
If Origin was really that miracle of profit and the 30% cut is that important( while still selling at every other DD retailer with the same cut, but HURR DURR) wouldn't you think they would just pull all of their catalog off Steam?
Well, that isn't really the case, and they put their older titles there on deep sales very frequently, and virtually put their almost entire older catalog on deep sales on Steam.
Well, that isn't really the case, and they put their older titles there on deep sales very frequently, and virtually put their almost entire older catalog on deep sales on Steam.
Hellsing321
Member
I imagine you're just as pissed at Origin for taking a 30% cut from companies like Ubisoft and CDPR that sell their games on Origin?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
The other frustrating thing about multiple clients / launchers is that it really interferes with a PC-on-TV, controller-based setup.
Whatever'sComfortable
Banned
But it's hardly Norton Antivirus.
Competition is a good thing, who knows if Steam would have a refund service now if Origin hadn't had it all this time?
It's not like Steam didn't start out with Valve pushing their own stuff on it.
truestatic
Member
Current players on crazy old games from before games bought at any source were consolidated to individual online platforms (Steam, Origin, uPlay.) The Sims 4 is more popular than Battlefield Bad Company 2? You don't say.
It's not a good point of comparison, and doesn't really disprove the point. It would be a lot more accurate for them to have said "Wherever our games are, that's where our players have to go."
Jesus christ.
I use Origin daily because I got the goddamn Sims 4, that is LITERALLY the only goddamn reason I use Origin.
I've contemplated getting Mass Effect trilogy on Steam despite the fact I own them on Origin, because I figured it would be way cheaper than buying the missing DLC for my existing Origin copies, but no you can't get the DLC on Steam.
So well done, you've held me hostage if I want to enjoy my existing games with every bit of their existing content installed, which I still can't because paying so much for OLD DLC is outrageous.
And I never bother installing them because I have a monthly quota that is very generous in regards to daily usage, but not enough so to go on a spree of downloading 5-15gb games.
On Steam my internet usage is unmetered, which was another reason why I considered buying games I already own on Steam instead.
My Origin friends list is dead and has been for years, no one uses it or at least cares one little bit about the social aspect of it where as my Steam Friends list is always active.
If it weren't for the fact my Retail Mass Effect and Sims 4 copies required Origin, I most definitely would never ever bother with it, hell I have Sims 4 set to launch through steam.
I use Origin daily because I got the goddamn Sims 4, that is LITERALLY the only goddamn reason I use Origin.
I've contemplated getting Mass Effect trilogy on Steam despite the fact I own them on Origin, because I figured it would be way cheaper than buying the missing DLC for my existing Origin copies, but no you can't get the DLC on Steam.
So well done, you've held me hostage if I want to enjoy my existing games with every bit of their existing content installed, which I still can't because paying so much for OLD DLC is outrageous.
And I never bother installing them because I have a monthly quota that is very generous in regards to daily usage, but not enough so to go on a spree of downloading 5-15gb games.
On Steam my internet usage is unmetered, which was another reason why I considered buying games I already own on Steam instead.
My Origin friends list is dead and has been for years, no one uses it or at least cares one little bit about the social aspect of it where as my Steam Friends list is always active.
If it weren't for the fact my Retail Mass Effect and Sims 4 copies required Origin, I most definitely would never ever bother with it, hell I have Sims 4 set to launch through steam.
Whatever'sComfortable
Banned
Because PC gaming is Steam gaming. Not a massive platform you can do lots of things with.
Sure, offer your game on all platforms and make your platform more worthwhile than the competition. Fuck unnecessary platform exclusivity. This benefits EA alone, and I still doubt they make more money this way than if they released their products on Steam.
Whatever'sComfortable
Banned
That doesn't apply to the console space why should it for PC?
Let's release The Last Of Us on Xbox and see what consumers pick?
BinaryPork2737
Unconfirmed Member
Mass Effect 3 isn't on Steam, though 1 and 2 are. If you ever wanted to replay ME3, you'd still have to use Origin.
Visualante2
Member
It would be helpful if you posted specific examples of what you don't understand. This topic has been discussed to death from many angles. Here is just one example: having to manage multiple friends lists between platforms is annoying.
I dont have many games on Origin. I wish i could use Steam or Gog for all EA games that i have but i wont really mind because EA's game making philosophy turns me away from them anyway. They make flashy but shallow products, imho. Impressive for the eye but ultimately without soul.
I have to admit though that i was very negative on Origin until recently but now i do not mind using it at all. Origin is ok in my book but i use it even less than i use the terrible -on all accounts- Uplay.
And this is the problem with me and EA. I just dont like their games.
I have to admit though that i was very negative on Origin until recently but now i do not mind using it at all. Origin is ok in my book but i use it even less than i use the terrible -on all accounts- Uplay.
And this is the problem with me and EA. I just dont like their games.
Whatever'sComfortable
Banned
First world problems.
truestatic
Member
Honestly, it works fine. It let you choose new install directories before Steam did. Download speeds for me are consistently great. The only problems I have with it is that it's annoying that publishers insist on fracturing my friends lists and running the multitude of necessary clients to play all the games I care about on my PC, and even that I don't particularly begrudge them - it's their game, they can release it however they want and I get that they want control over how their shit is sold. Still, the dishonesty in the marketing speak can be a little irksome, even if it isn't at all surprising.
Because I'm the paying customer, it should be my choice where I purchase their games. Limiting my choice is in their power, but anti-consumer nevertheless.
...because the PC is an open platform and that's how we like it? Why do you insist on making excuses for behavior that doesn't benefit you in any way?
I love when people talk about Valve's 30% cut as though it's some hideously unfair business deal. Disregarding the fact that virtually all storefronts take the same cut and retail is a far worse deal for the publisher, it's a lot of value for the money.
BinaryPork2737
Unconfirmed Member
I still dislike how easy it is to dismiss someone else's argument just by saying "first world problems" or the like. It's no better than the old "I don't like this thing. Okay." comic that used to get posted in response to other posts.
Fragamemnon
Member
The Mass Effect (specifically ME2) DLC situation on the PC is a unfixable clusterfuck, but it doesn't really have much to do with Origin or Steam.
Not going to argue the other points as you're rant is pretty righteous all around. I'd like to specifically make note about the Friends thing-having to build a faux-social network again so I can play co-op games or join parties for MP on my platform is GARBAGE.
BBQMan
Member
So is any problem bought up when it comes to gaming. That doesn't stop it from being a problem.
Steam is a platform I use all the time as do my friends. Origin is like uPlay no one uses it other than to launch their games.
Also none of the other clients have a Big Picture Mode equivalent.
I H8 Memes
Member
I didnt realize that Origin was such a juggernaut that a game could sell 70% of what it can on Steam. You guys are out of your minds.It loads fast and has customer service. Two things Steam will never get.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
It's unnecessary.
It doesn't exist because it offers something anyone particularly wants or needs on its own merits. It just exists as a false choice exercise in corporate greed and control.
bati
Member
CoD doesn't really seem to sell that much on Steam. Each year the playerbase settles at 10-15k concurrent users shortly after release, which isn't all that great for a MP focused AAA game.
dgrdsv
Member
You're right, competition is a good thing - and that's exactly what EA's Origin avoiding by not selling EA's titles on Steam leading to zero competition on them between DD platforms essentially. Same can be said about Valve titles absent anywhere but on Steam of course.
Whatever'sComfortable
Banned
Okay, in my opinion I don't find having different friends lists a big deal for me. And like many I use Origin for 1 or 2 games and Steam for everything else.
BBQMan
Member
It sells plenty for being a piece of shit year by year. It always hits top 10 sales when its announced. And going by the numbers gets peaks of 50K plus during release.
Corronchilejano
Member
... I just have to know:
Has Valve ever tried to put any of its games on Origin?
Has Valve ever tried to put any of its games on Origin?
Cizeta-Moroder
Banned
iNvid02
Member
well stump lemme tell you about a little program called uplay where you can hit A in the main window to launch your last played game.
perfect for when you want to quickly jump back into that intense ass creed session
valve doesnt make games anymore so we'll never know
That's origin there prices are idiotic.
which is stupid because they would make more money even while giving away that 30 percent.
Corronchilejano
Member
Some of us remember what EA does when it wakes up with its left foot, which used to be all the time.
