If you were lucky enough to be able to work from home, more power too you, but stop trying to gaslight us into thinking that working from home is the same as working in the office. It is not. People that work from home and people that commute into work are not the same.
When someone works in an office they are required to keep a certain standard and do all kinds of extra stuff everyday, in addition to the assigned work they already do. The famous saying is "I got a perk at my job, when I finish my work early I get to do somebody else's work." While technically anything can be done remotely, the remote worker is more limited as to what s/he can contribute to the business all else being equal. You may say that it is the businesses responsibility to manage you and that if you aren't doing as much remotely then that is your managers fault for not following up with you. However, I would say that why is it the businesses responsibility to micromanage you remotely(which is difficulty) when they could just require you to come into the office where you can be micromanaged by your fellow employees and end up being forced to do many extra things that chilling at home and doing the assigned task would not. The business gets more out of you when you are on site.
I wish we all could work from home and make it happen bud, and I'm glad that you might be able to, but the lobbying and the claims that someone works just as hard at home as they do working retail on black friday is a bridge too far. Hope WFH works out for everyone but don't say those who suffer a commute have the same difficulties as you. The commute and the sacrifice of time is more than half the job from the worker's perspective, and many workers cannot ever work from home, including doctors and nurses. WFH people are good and I love them but they should THANK people who go out into the world to earn a living instead of trying to pretend they have it just as bad.
It's at their leisure to do so. I am not agreeing with their policies but you chose to work there. Nobody is making you work there. Again they are paying you for 8 hours or even Salary in some cases. They have the right to know what you are doing with their time. They are paying you for your time and that becomes Their time. You can end it at any time with just quiting.
I think if more people did that then there probably wouldn't be so much contention over remote work.I'm gonna work my ass off to be sure I'll still be able to just wake up 20 minutes before work, grab a coffee and sit down to start working for many years to come. It's fucking priceless
I agree with that point. If you and the employer had an agreement, and they changed that then they are at fault. It's no different if you work for an office and they decided to relocate the office 1,000 miles away. My only point is there are 2 sides to this coin. Yes I agree that it sucks that employees are being asked to come back to a more traditional role. The other side to that coin is that a bunch of lazy irresponsible losers have ruined it for the responsible. It's the case where some rotten apples spoiled the whole bunch.I agree with that but if you started working there when they had WFH policies that were friendly, and people took jobs with the approach of being able to work from a distance, and then they change it later that's lame to me if they've set up their life so it allows for that job.
Anyway I personally prefer working from the office, I hated WFH because I didnt like not being able to interact with my collegues but if it's something they've agreed on and then roll it back later thats lame
Yeah or a good way to quantify individual production. I'm lucky that's possible where I'm at and actually really rewarding when it's time for a raiseI think if more people did that then there probably wouldn't be so much contention over remote work.
This doesn't make any sense though, if the company/managers are doing their jobs, they can very easily see who's performance is down the shitter from this change; it's retarded to mandate the same from people who finish what you pay them for.The other side to that coin is that a bunch of lazy irresponsible losers have ruined it for the responsible. It's the case where some rotten apples spoiled the whole bunch.
Yeah these companies never make stupid decisions about what they think will be best.I am not fan of these big companies. They are greedy bastards who will lay you off without a second thought. All I am saying is if working from home was producing such great results, there would not be a need to go back to the office.
It's not that it's better for everyone, it's better for some. A lot of people don't feel comfortable working from home and prefer to be on location. While others feel the opposite. Quite a few jobs did, it was just always specific industries, positions, and roles. Like I mentioned though, it's great for people that can't leave their city/state/country but are still able to do work and do something they're passionate about.if remote is better why did jobs not do it be for covid??
I get about as much work done at home as I do when in the office, but I think FULL remote work is ridiculous.
I am not DEI and 100% against it. You are talking out of your ass and making points out of thin air.Yeah these companies never make stupid decisions about what they think will be best.
Just look at Concord, everyone was saying that it was going to bomb and they needed to make changes but the smart guys at the top said they knew what was best and lo and behold - Concord was a massive success and we were all humbled by their business acumen.
Also I would never have took you as a person who supported all the DEI initiatives pushed by businesses but what do you know you were right, if it doesn't work they wouldn't do it right?
that's not how it works, that's not like anything worksNo dumbass. People were using mouse jigglers and pretending to work. Yes there were some responsible and did their job but there was a majority that fucked off.
Found an old post of mine that sums this up.They still had remote work? Covid was years ago. People being lazy fucked that whole thing up.
The main contention is that middle management are struggling to justify their massive salaries if their workers don't need them. So i doubt the workers are lazier at home, the managements are just sweating at getting fired themselves.I think if more people did that then there probably wouldn't be so much contention over remote work.
I do 3 days at the office and it's fine. People need to get a grip. Sure flexible home working is a great thing and should be the norm imo but people have become entitled little bitches.
People in my office tend to leave anytime after lunch. Where as working from home they put in a full workday or more because they don't have to worry about commuting.Just use your common sense man. If It was working and people were just as productive, they would not need them to come back to the office. Do your own research, just google it for fuck's sake. I can't teach you common sense.
Yep, it's a good hybrid system. Most folks don't need to be in the office 5 days a week, and 3 days (if consistent for the team) encourages better interactivity and collaboration.Makes sense. I'd even say that 3 days at the office is very reasonable.
because old men wanted to keep an eye on their employees. still the same now even though there is a ton of evidence that it doesn't matter for some jobs.if remote is better why did jobs not do it be for covid??
Yeah, why would I want to hang out with co-workers? A waste of time as I'll forget about them if I leave my job anyway.Seriously? "Hey bro wanna talk on the phone while I eat my Cup Noodles?" That sounds kinda awful.
I do 3 days at the office and it's fine. People need to get a grip. Sure flexible home working is a great thing and should be the norm imo but people have become entitled little bitches.
But obviously hiring on merit etc wasnt working, otherwise they wouldn't have integrated DEI into their core businesses. Right? Just like remote working wasn't working so they started having people come back to the office.I am not DEI and 100% against it. You are talking out of your ass and making points out of thin air.
Depends on the scale of your business. If you're a fully globalised tech company, there's a good chance you'll have offices in Tokyo, California and London. Without remote and WFH and a trust in staff to spread their time out effectively you can't be across all the stuff you need to be. Maybe you start at seven on the morning to take meetings with folks eight hours ahead, take two or three hours for lunch and are taking calls at eight in the evening with colleagues eight hours behind.If I ran a business and paid employees to work for, I'd make damn sure they were in the office.
Since when are they the bastion of free speech? What gave u that inpressionEurogamer did an article crying about it, I got banned simply for posting a comment saying that after 5 years it was about time to get the troglodytes out of their bedrooms again. Guess I struck a nerve.
Eurogamer, the bastion of free speech....when it suits them.![]()
No, you don't, you are just lying to yourselfI work remotely. I do more work from home than I ever did in an office mainly because my hours meld together. lol