The same argument could be leveled against the runner though.
Honestly it's just shitty without a third party.
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East Bay jogger kills 15-pound pug with a kick
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The same argument could be leveled against the runner though.
Honestly it's just shitty without a third party.
The kick a 15 pound dog defense force is probably one of the worst defense forces in a while. Some of you are playing devil's advocate for a jogger that kicked a dog to death, think about that.
Dogs aren't made of wet napkin and peanut butter, little dogs can play and fuck around with big dogs, they do it all the time. You don't accidentally kill an animal by running into it, that isn't a fucking kick, that's tripping over an animal, something that rarely damages an animal over 10 pounds. A less forceful kick wouldn't kill a pug.
Dogs aren't made of wet napkin and peanut butter, little dogs can play and fuck around with big dogs, they do it all the time. You don't accidentally kill an animal by running into it, that isn't a fucking kick, that's tripping over an animal, something that rarely damages an animal over 10 pounds. A less forceful kick wouldn't kill a pug.
That's not a fact.
Anyway I don't care how big a dog is, if a dog without a leasg runs at me out of no where. I'd kick it too, I'm not going to take a chance of getting bit.
Permanently A
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No point in judging when its a "he said she said" story. Either side could be in the right.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Why the fuck are the dog kicking defense force bringing up a biting Pug? The dude ADMITTED to kicking the dog and doesn't claim it "ran in front of him" nor claim it bit him.
He is a flat out asshole. Quit the ridiculous justifications for kicking a pocket sized defenseless dog. Fucks sake.
He is a flat out asshole. Quit the ridiculous justifications for kicking a pocket sized defenseless dog. Fucks sake.
This. You can defend from a pug without freaking murdering it.
exactly
he booted the poor thing enough to kill and had absolutely no reason whatsoever to charge at a small animal with that much force.
LurkerPrime
Member
Gaaah, what a horrible story. That poor, defenseless pug...
What the heck was the jogger thinking? Kicking the dog is never the way to handle the situation. Especially when it's a toy-sized dog that's
completely harmless.
Unless the jogger has a veritable dog phobia or something to explain such an insane reaction, I don't see why this should end well for them.
What the heck was the jogger thinking? Kicking the dog is never the way to handle the situation. Especially when it's a toy-sized dog that's
almost
Unless the jogger has a veritable dog phobia or something to explain such an insane reaction, I don't see why this should end well for them.
Velcro Fly
Member
this is so awful
but seriously people leash your fucking dogs
but seriously people leash your fucking dogs
Bobby Roberts
Banned
the one thing almost everyone in the thread agrees on is that the lady absolutely should have had both pugs leashed. I don't think there's a single post up in here that says otherwise.
Pug never bit him. Pug didn't bite anyone.
BlitzerRadic
Member
I can use any reasonable means to protect myself from getting bitten. If something below knee level is trying to bite me, the logical thing to do is kick it.
And idiot dog owners that leave your dogs off a leash, please do assault me after I defended myself from being bitten by your stupid mutt that YOU left off the leash. I'll be happy to file a lawsuit against you.
A lot of pet owners do.. Apparently...
it's also not hard to not kill animals
This too. The "it's okay to kill a pug" crowd would benefit from reading again.
Tough guy? You're the one who keeps making up these biting scenarios just so you can tell everyone how tough you'll be toward the dog. Also, seriously, being attacked by a tiny dog is funny, stop pretending its a life or death scenario, grab them by the scruff and laugh, don't be a dumb cunt and lash out at it.
Princess Carl
Member
I love that you didn't read the rest, but I don't expect much from you as a poster given this thread.
Circle Jerk
Member
Don't kick a dog so hard it dies. It's not that hard.
depths20XX
Member
So you think the joggers intent was to murder this pug?
Should have kept a dog on the leash., don't blame him for defending himself from a dog that ran at him without a leash.
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Colonel Mustard
Banned
Pugs have a hard enough time getting food in their mouths. You would have to put your hand in it's face to be bitten.
I think his intent was to hurt her badly seeing as how kicking anything that small is going to cause significant damage
You think he cared to not harm the dog?
Princess Carl
Member
Just so w're clear, this murderer went out of his way to kick this dog, then went out his way again to call the police to report it? Sounds reasonable.
Also, have any of you been running in your life? Do we need to bring out the high school physics force diagrams?
Anyways, there is waaaay too much crazy being drank in this thread, not worth the time.
Also, have any of you been running in your life? Do we need to bring out the high school physics force diagrams?
Anyways, there is waaaay too much crazy being drank in this thread, not worth the time.
Good luck convincing a jury that the 10-15 pound dog posed a threat to your life, therefore you had to kill it and then are suing the owner for wrecking you
pharmx
Member
I can't speak for the other people, but my views align more with what zen said. Dogs should always be on a leash, except in designated areas like dog parks.
I've got a little dog (miniature schnauzer) and his ass stays leashed when we're out unless we're in a no-leash park. Same with my older, much bigger boxer before he passed. As a dog owner, I'm responsible for my animal. Period. The law says keep them on a leash with the exception of certain zones, that's what you do.
You're more likely to get attacked/bitten by a chihuahua than a pit bull.
I wouldn't place a whole lot of importance on weight. I've seen dogs and cats under 15 lbs that can do serious damage. Little =! safe.
Maybe because there is zero proof that is actually the case?
The dog owner claims the hiker kicked the dog as it was running back to her.
The hiker claims he kicked the dog away as it was charging him.
Both are contradictory and nothing can prove either one. Yet, you claim what the dog owners says as fact.
Your definition of fact seems to differ from that of most people (and the dictionary).
Delta Assault
Member
Was Afroman the jogger?
I'm not making up biting scenarios. I'm responding to the fact that you'd beat up anyone who would dare kick your pug even in self defense because your pug bit someone.
Most people instinctively would kick off something biting them. Not "grab them by the scruff." Not everyone is a pet owner and knows the mannerisms of your pet.
Edit: If I was a pet owner and a bad pet owner and didn't keep my dog on a leash and it bit someone and that someone kicked my dog in self defense, I wouldn't beat them up and go apeshit like an animal on that somebody.
depths20XX
Member
Well he was jogging at speed and says he tapped it out of the way. I'm guessing his 'tap' was a lot more forceful than he bargained for.
I really dunno as this story is basically a he said she said. I think comparing a kid coming up to you with a dog is pretty goof though.
Startled my ass.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Colonel Mustard
Banned
I run a couple miles every morning at the park. I've had nearly this exact scenario play out before with a pit bull.
Ran around, didn't kick or attempt to fuck with the dog. Somehow, I'm completely in tact and didn't have to kill an animal.
Did it just get tangled up in your feet or did you deliberately kick it?
Shamrock7r
Member
I haven't read one person arguing that the dog didn't need to be on a leash. I havent seen it, and if someone is they are the only one.This is about the jogger's excessive use of force to kill a dog. The amount of force necessary for 1 kick to kill a pug gives me little doubt that the kick was intentionally meant to hurt the dog.
The thundering paws bore down upon him with alarming swiftness, verily.
Aaargggh get it away from me!!!
Ragnorok64
Member
I'm glad to finally see someone else say this. The whole "this animal is a member of our family" attitude has always kind of baffled me.
Just_myles
Member
I'm not a dog fan but, that was horrible. I hope they sue him for damages.
love and empathy must baffle you too
The thundering paws bore down upon him with alarming swiftness, verily.
Yeah, still don't see a problem with what the jogger did. Don't care what type of dog it is, if it's unleashed and running at me, I'd have the same reaction.
This happened in America though, so those culural/societal values apply whether people like it or not
tattooed_dwarf
Member
I think that could be interesting thing to discuss, even thread worthy if someone would like make one.
I, for example, would choose my dogs life over random kid or even over my wifes cousins kid (closest kid to me in my current life). And this is thing I have thought a lot.
It's kinda disturbing that you've prepared yourself to do such a thing regardless
Always-honest
Banned
Yeah this..
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