Good. Get that on the pc version asap so all the vocal pro-pvp crowd can go do that and quit making posts about removing solo/private group play.
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Elite: Dangerous |OT| Every Man's Sky
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Good. Get that on the pc version asap so all the vocal pro-pvp crowd can go do that and quit making posts about removing solo/private group play.
Dreams-Visions
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this will fix the PvP question. I assume the CQC will be an insurance-free experience. A risk-free PvP arena where you can battle other players for prizes/money/whatever without the risk of losing a weeks' worth of farming time worth in insurance money.
Good decision. I was hoping they'd do something exactly like this. Not only to promote PvP, but to also make small ships useful for something.
Zalusithix
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If it's not risk free (or at least significantly reduced insurance), then they'll have done all that work for nothing. This should be the Arena Commander equivalent for Elite.
Dreams-Visions
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Zalusithix
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I agree that it's not the best way to treat the people that supported the game thus far. I have a feeling that such a deal with the devil was required, however, to get funding for development. While I have no proof, I just get the feeling that FD was financially constrained. It very well might have been a do or die situation.
Either way, deals with the proverbial devil always have consequences. FD is basically fucked now reputation wise with the people that helped make the game come to exist in the first place. If FD goes under, they wont have the people to fall back on any more.
Anton Sugar
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Zalusithix
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If it weren't for inXile and Larian (both small developers) announcing console ports without exclusive time limited content, I'd be inclined to agree that they didn't. However, the precedent was already set for pc -> console Kickstarter ports. Anything less than that is going to be met with contempt by a decent chunk of the biggest supporters.
For that mode? I assumed it was for the retail game.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
So apparently hacking is a thing in Elite, and I never even knew it:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=157212
If you see a CMDR Ariane out and about in the galaxy swing a wide berth, he's running lots of hacks. There are others too, and FDev doesn't seem to have done anything against any of them, even after being reported dozens of times.
So yeah, that thread about the hacker who was killing people in game earlier, and has been doing so for several months now apparently, who has also been reported dozens of times to FDev? Well, the thread got locked, and I got an infraction from FDev for posting a youtube video of the hacker cheating and killing people:
Frontier Moderation Team said:
Maybe they should worry more about stopping hackers than punishing the people who point them out?
Zalusithix
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So yeah, that thread about the hacker who was killing people in game earlier, and has been doing so for several months now apparently, who has also been reported dozens of times to FDev? Well, the thread got locked, and I got an infraction from FDev for posting a youtube video of the hacker cheating and killing people:
Maybe they should worry more about stopping hackers than punishing the people who point them out?
The rules are made with good intentions, but they only work when the person is dealt with in a timely manner. If the person isn't dealt with, then the anger is going to fester and eventually people aren't going to give a damn about the rules. It's a bit of a lost cause too. While FD can police their forums as much as they'd like, they have no control over the internet at large. Names and videos will get out there. To make matters worse, they'll get out there along with the bemoaning of FD's lack of action.
Haha. PvP arenas won't change the fact that moving from Open to Solo to Open at will is nonsense. Awful design decision, especially with powerplay.
Maybe they should worry more about stopping hackers than punishing the people who point them out?
They're trying, but haven't been able to. In the mean time, people pointing it out publicly (showing proof) hurts the rep, therefore hurts sales, so it's discouraged.
I think people are starting to use them in Open because they no longer care. "Might as well have some fun until I get banned".
Felix Lighter
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Oh man, the negativity swirling around Elite is a real shame. I take a break and when I'm just about ready to come back, everything is a mess.
Frontier is ruining the goodwill they got from those who feel like they got burned by Star Citizen.
They're treading a fine line here. They're starting to screw over the fan base that allowed them to build this game.
have we heard more details about how early access will work on Xbox? Braben was saying it is £24.99 but does that get you the full game eventually, or just the early access part and you have to pay more later for the full game? Wondering whether to get on console or PC, although on PC would give me access to VR eventually..
Felix Lighter
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Don't lock yourself out of the possibility of VR and HOTAS experience if you have a choice!
Anton Sugar
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Bought it. Seems to be the full game, but I didn't have time to play long.
Ooh, just found one of the better systems I've come across:
Neutron star, 3 x terraformable water worlds, 2 x terraformable metal content planets, 1 x non-terraformable water world, 1 x earth-like.
Might be a new record for me for highest value system...we'll see in a week or so when I get back I guess.
Neutron star, 3 x terraformable water worlds, 2 x terraformable metal content planets, 1 x non-terraformable water world, 1 x earth-like.
Might be a new record for me for highest value system...we'll see in a week or so when I get back I guess.
This is the official announcement from David Braben straight off their community site thing:
Edit: Curious what those new controller functions are. Any Xbone players who tested the game and know enough of the PC version to do a comparison?
David Braben said:
Edit: Curious what those new controller functions are. Any Xbone players who tested the game and know enough of the PC version to do a comparison?
Product page claims it is.
We haven't had any official word about it iirc, but that'd be a feature I'd expect to be included in an announcment. Probably save to assume that this won't be possible then.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
This particular sentence has me concerned a bit:
David Braben said:
So, from the sound of it, there won't be any news or updates for the PC version of Elite for a few months? I guess they are going to be focused on the Xbox version for now and Power Play is all we will be getting for a long time. That kind of blows, seeing how Power Pay really didn't add much of anything interesting for me.
Not sure. At this point I don't trust FD to make the right decisions in the future development of Elite. I have no idea what size(s) of their team(s) are and the split between PC/XB1 and the other game are worrying. Sounds to me like they are truly unable to fund the game's development to the promised level without pulling some massive bullshit. They need to provide an actual roadmap, now. Before the backlash can get any worse. And FFS either sack that community manager or let him do his job properly.
Anton Sugar
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Some more transparency is needed, especially at this point. It won't do at all to remain quiet about the roadmap, which is what it sounded like they intended to do the other week. Pretty sure someone asked Braben for a roadmap and they said they currently don't have plans to release one.
Don't hold your breath.
Anton Sugar
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Oh, you guys. Let's not make this thread as depressing as the Windows Phone OT.
frontieruk
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Wait this isn't the windows phone thread?
They have like ~250 people.
Felix Lighter
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The game's foundation is far too strong for me to give up on it. Even in it's current state, I'm more excited about finally playing the game in VR than just about anything coming this year.
Didn't it already take a couple month for them to announce what we should expect from 1.3 once the wing update was released ?
A roadmap ( without any date, just to get an idea of what is to come, in which order ) would be more than welcome. And as someone who already paid for the extension, any 'news' about them would be nice too.
Oh wow, the game just went up on Steam sale for 25% off. It's a daily, currently 46 hours left.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/359320/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/359320/
very much so.
Took me about 200 hours to get bored of it.
Anton Sugar
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Let's not conflate "not much content" with "not many updates".
FD has been great about updating and listening to player feedback. Since the release, we were getting new features/additions every other month or so (Powerplay took a little longer), and that's not including the regular patches, some of which have made fairly significant updates.
We can argue whether or not that content should have been in the game at launch, but I don't think it's fair to say their updates haven't been regular. They were practically on a schedule for updates until Powerplay.
EDIT: Agree with Sinatar. This isn't a game where you start off and have nothing to do. It's a game where you start off, have a ton of shit to do, and then after you do it, realize there's not much to the endgame (yet). PP was supposed to address that, and if they tweak it, maybe it will.
FD has been great about updating and listening to player feedback. Since the release, we were getting new features/additions every other month or so (Powerplay took a little longer), and that's not including the regular patches, some of which have made fairly significant updates.
We can argue whether or not that content should have been in the game at launch, but I don't think it's fair to say their updates haven't been regular. They were practically on a schedule for updates until Powerplay.
EDIT: Agree with Sinatar. This isn't a game where you start off and have nothing to do. It's a game where you start off, have a ton of shit to do, and then after you do it, realize there's not much to the endgame (yet). PP was supposed to address that, and if they tweak it, maybe it will.
NightmareTrigger
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Just enlisted. Looking forward to hanging out with you guys.
Pretty much this, and yes...I am the guy with the negative review on Steam that everyone loves to hate, hehe. The game does have a solid foundation, and you will get a lot of hours out of it. I stopped around 80 hours, so while I did feel I got my money's worth, it leaves you with a bitter taste in your mouth simply because you do see so much potential there (with its foundation) but it's just not quite there yet.
That isn't to say it never will be, but it just isn't there yet. You'll get drawn into the vastness of it all and the money grind, but I felt after some time it just felt like "an awful waste of space."
It's a game you must enjoy finding your own trail. There is no clear scenario, no script, and no clear indications. The Galaxy is big, and you are small. If you want to be an hero and build an empire, this isn't the game for you.
I really enjoy the game, because the feeling of flight is awesome, and the galaxy is superb. It is the kind of game you start with an objective in your mind but end up flying around in an asteroid field instead...
It is pretty empty right now, but I think it will slowly get more and more content.
The latter, no. The updates and patches have been frequent. That's not say some issues shouldn't be fixed faster or some features be present at launch. But among the more vocal people the standard expectation seems to be having everything fixed the day before yesterday and being given a back rub on top of it.
The former? Yes, there is much valid criticism there, but it's too often buried beneath overboarding hyperbole and drama. You get a huge galaxy to explore that is currently the background for some basic game mechanics (dogfighting, mining, exploration etc.), but you don't get any narration tying it together. You can work your way up from the most measly starter ship to beastly large ship's, but if that's not in itself reward enough for you, you will get little enjoyment out of the available tasks that bring in credits.
It comes down to whether you like to fly around in a spaceship enough, to also enjoy the limited mechanics around it. You could say it's a more exciting Euro truck simulator in space with a lot more added combat.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Just a warning to you guys, looks like the patch today broke 1st discoveries with exploring:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=157654
People are now getting zero credits for selling data, and the discovered tags are getting messed up all over the galaxy with every horn and detailed scan.
Think I'll play something else tonight until this is fixed.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=157654
People are now getting zero credits for selling data, and the discovered tags are getting messed up all over the galaxy with every horn and detailed scan.
Think I'll play something else tonight until this is fixed.
Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully they'll get a fix out real soon.
Zalusithix
Member
I certainly hope they have a transactional record of the discoveries. If not, who knows how much exploration history was rewritten due to that bug.
New community blog entry, strongly focused around XBone, but still worth a read (not much new info though):
GARY RICHARDS XBOX ONE PRODUCER said:
What is the Close Quarters Championship (CQC)?
The Close Quarters Championship or CQC is an instant team-based action in the Elite: Dangerous galaxy, debuting exclusively on Xbox One in July.
It will have several modes including 12 player Deathmatch, 6v6 Team Deathmatch and Capture the Flag and will be designed for competitive play with matchmaking and leaderboards.
Some further features:
Customise and pilot your own personalised fighter alongside your wingmen in the ultimate 34th Century gladiatorial contest.
Honed for competitive play, bringing a balanced combat space for players to test their skills against others on Xbox Live.
CQC will be a balanced, competitive experience, and we hope the eSports community will embrace it.
Integration into the wider Elite: Dangerous galaxy and narrative provides a stepping stone into the games experience.
Fly the Sidewinder, Eagle and (new to players) F63 Condor Federal Fighter.
Earn XP to increase your CQC rank. Unlock new modules, weapons and abilities.
The CQC will be exclusive for Xbox One until Holiday 2015, when it will come to PC and Mac.
The Close Quarters Championship or CQC is an instant team-based action in the Elite: Dangerous galaxy, debuting exclusively on Xbox One in July.
It will have several modes including 12 player Deathmatch, 6v6 Team Deathmatch and Capture the Flag and will be designed for competitive play with matchmaking and leaderboards.
Some further features:
Customise and pilot your own personalised fighter alongside your wingmen in the ultimate 34th Century gladiatorial contest.
Honed for competitive play, bringing a balanced combat space for players to test their skills against others on Xbox Live.
CQC will be a balanced, competitive experience, and we hope the eSports community will embrace it.
Integration into the wider Elite: Dangerous galaxy and narrative provides a stepping stone into the games experience.
Fly the Sidewinder, Eagle and (new to players) F63 Condor Federal Fighter.
Earn XP to increase your CQC rank. Unlock new modules, weapons and abilities.
The CQC will be exclusive for Xbox One until Holiday 2015, when it will come to PC and Mac.
Dreams-Visions
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This sounds really fun (and a lot less complicated than everything Powerplay's brought to the table). I can understand why us PC people feel like we're getting kicked in the balls on this one.
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