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Elite: Dangerous |OT| Every Man's Sky
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I just found out the ranks needed for the Corvette and Cutter...
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=209378&page=2&p=3222741&viewfull=1#post3222741
Well shit. Gotta grind 2 more ranks...
Edit : And the Braben himself says in the same thread that 1.5 gonna be released... Yesterday?!?
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=209378&page=3&p=3222789&viewfull=1#post3222789
Well!
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=209378&page=2&p=3222741&viewfull=1#post3222741
Well shit. Gotta grind 2 more ranks...
Edit : And the Braben himself says in the same thread that 1.5 gonna be released... Yesterday?!?
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=209378&page=3&p=3222789&viewfull=1#post3222789
Well!
Cuban Legend
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Just got my Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS-X in, still waiting on the PS-eye cam and the head tracking clip. Anyone have any recommended controller setups? I found a page with a few but I'm lost as to which to choose. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=178834&p=2757172#post2757172
and in case you're wondering i've been successfully flying with my 360 controller until now, and I'm using Voice Attack with the KICS3 module. I'm goin all in!
and in case you're wondering i've been successfully flying with my 360 controller until now, and I'm using Voice Attack with the KICS3 module. I'm goin all in!
Felix Lighter
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Damn, I should have bought the American flag Cobra and Viper skins when they were on sale. So cheesey. ha
RadioactiveLobster
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It should apply the discount during the checkout
Anton Sugar
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Short but with four significant updates in that time. Busting their butts!
Started my second exploration trip. Three systems in and I already ran into another water world. With only the basic discovery scanner though I obviously still have to fly around to actually find the planets.
Just asking, but is the size of the scroll area on the system map a clue? I've noticed the map for each system let's you scroll a different amount of area before stopping, which I thought was a clue to how much is actually there to be revealed. With main sequence systems I guess I should search for the best planets within about 1AU of the star though right?
Just asking, but is the size of the scroll area on the system map a clue? I've noticed the map for each system let's you scroll a different amount of area before stopping, which I thought was a clue to how much is actually there to be revealed. With main sequence systems I guess I should search for the best planets within about 1AU of the star though right?
Later. Pretty sure Xbox is x86, they need to make Horizons work on it.
Ah, yeah, that is true.
Anyone driving your SRV with a 360 controller, somehow my controls are screwed up and I'm trying to fix it and can't figure it out.
I want RT to be my acceleration axis, and LT to be my deceleration/reverse axis. I have tried setting it to both the buttons and the axes and neither has worked. I tried turning Drive Assist off and my SRV won't move with it off. How did I get this working before?
Cuban Legend
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yup i DLed and installed that. 1 hour later in a HiRES and I'm acclimated to it and 2mill credits richer thanks to so smooth bounty sniping.
So are our gaming PCs' processors - 64 bit variants of that architecture. What changed is that they're now using a 64 bit client. But the Xbone too has a 64 bit processor. That in itself should not be an issue.
I'm more worried about the lack of any mention what they intend to do about the rock details.
I'm holding them to the Outerra standard here - another alpha that handily spanks their planets in surface details - but the Xbox one might not be held to it.This will also be another early/unfinished release in terms of how well developed the features are and probably which bugs they manage to fix in this relatively short beta. A whole lot, but there are always a whole lot more. ^^ Still, seing as the game develops into a kind of continuously updated service, I kind of prefer this release structure. Missing things can be added down the line. I'd rather play the thing now, concentrating on the finished/fun features, than in 5 years when it is or is not in a more feature complete or fun state. The way it's now, we can at least complain early. ;-)
Felix Lighter
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Yes Xbox One and PS4 are x86 64 (or x64) just like any modern Windows PC.
Yup, certainly would have been strange to have 8GB of memory on 32bit x86.
Mr. Luchador
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I spent an hour just floating about this morning and enjoyed every moment of it. Not entire sure how scanning works yet, but hey... there's plenty of time to work it all out!
Wat. Are you saying a 280x is gonna get 45 fps on *low* settings on planets?
I could imagine planets with atmosphere and such would take a toll on your hardware but these barren empty planets? Even in stations I get 65 fps on Ultra on my 280x.
I mean the short devclip David Braben posted was a few months back was running on a 770, which is roughly equal to the 7970/280x
Fair enough, not like the game isn't already full of optimization issues like going from 140 to 60 FPS in supercruise on an Nvidia GPU (or dropping to 15 on AMD due to driver stuff)
Hope they can sort it out.
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Perhaps that's your issue? Straight up dropping to 10-15 seems kind of insane
Nah, a 280x is the recommended GPU by Frontier for Horizons, which they translate into 60fps @1080p.
Felix Lighter
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The last time I played the beta my framerate was rock solid 165fps in super cruise (that's the refresh rate of my current monitor) while I still have a significant drop down to 80-90 on live. I don't know if that means much, I'm on Nvidia and my machine is definitely not typical but the same machine very different results in beta vs live, so hopefully they fixed that. I haven't heard much about how AMD users are experiencing the beta.
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Beta 5 notes:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=209765
Just felt the need to post this again. I love seeing stuff like this from the game. Have yet to experience this myself but still trying and hoping I get lucky.
Federation and Imperial capital ships jumping into a battle in a high intensity conflict zone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de78Odrw6KE
Federation and Imperial capital ships jumping into a battle in a high intensity conflict zone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de78Odrw6KE
Reckheim
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I should wait but its killing me, would you happen to know if you get to keep the progress or it works the same way beta works?
You keep your progress, do it!
Felix Lighter
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I thought you already owned Elite? I could have sworn I've seen you participate in this thread.
When canning systems is it worth looking more than 1,000 or 2,000 light seconds away from the star (assuming it's main-sequence)? What I've seen in this game, Space Engine, and Cosmos has taught me (I think) that most of what's at that range of heat is ice worlds and whatnot. I guess I could run into a Titan-style world or something. Mind you I still only have the basic discovery scanner.
Reckheim
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i do, but i took a break before horizons and i usually dont participate in beta's cause of the progress loss, downloading it tonight tho, super excited.
Felix Lighter
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Oh, that message was for those who don't own the vanilla game but preordered Horizons. They can now play vanilla 1.4 until Horizons 2.0 is released on Tuesday. Beta progress will not contribute to your live account.
Winterblink
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Looks like a Pink Floyd concert I went to once.
Further out than that, and you'll be spending too much time just flying around trying to find anything at all. You really should concentrate on saving up for the Advanced scanner, pop a whole system at once. And yes, there can be worthwhile stuff further out, especially if it's a binary system.. that other star 100K light-seconds away might have an Earth-like around it. Or maybe it's a very large hot star, and its habitable zone is actually out of reach of the Basic scanner. And things like black holes and neutron stars tend to be pretty far out and won't be picked up by anything except the Advanced scanner.
Reckheim
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agh, well that sucks then. Oo well, the 15th isn't that far off. I was half expecting for it to be delayed until January.
The new dev update is worth a read!
Intrigued to see what becomes of the generation ships. It would be so cool, if they were to add some hidden, derelict generation ship out there in the void. It would be even cooler, if we could board them in season 3 and fight the remaining survivors turned space zombies. Or get missions from some surviving and secluded hippie community ona huge ship wreck. Get us more onion head!
Intrigued to see what becomes of the generation ships. It would be so cool, if they were to add some hidden, derelict generation ship out there in the void. It would be even cooler, if we could board them in season 3 and fight the remaining survivors turned space zombies. Or get missions from some surviving and secluded hippie community ona huge ship wreck. Get us more onion head!
The new dev update is worth a read!
Intrigued to see what becomes of the generation ships. It would be so cool, if they were to add some hidden, derelict generation ship out there in the void. It would be even cooler, if we could board them in season 3 and fight the remaining survivors turned space zombies. Or get missions from some surviving and secluded hippie community ona huge ship wreck. Get us more onion head!
It definitely sounds interesting (like most of their ideas) but it's just going to end up on their nebulous "want to do" list.
Which is quiet extensive:
- Thargoids
- Other alien races
- More capital ship usage
- NPC SRVs
- NPC multicrew
- Godlike powers for DDF members?
- More station variety
- Asteroid Bases
- Active Volcanism on planets
- Meteors
- ...
And those are just some standout points I remember, that aren't considered specific season features (like space legs and most likely atmospheric planets). On the other hand, I trust Frontier more to actually tackle the points of their list at some point than I trust CIG to give us civil space line game mechanics in the coming two years.
But Elite seems healthy enough, especially if they can increase the player base with Horizons. It may not be the next update or the next year, but I think the likelyhood is good we'll eventually see those points implemented.
Actually fleshing them out and supporting them post-release is where my doubts lie, big releases they hyped like Powerplay and CQC are all but forgotten. But you're right, the game's healthy and the company's fairly well managed (my professional opinion, if you can call it that) so unlike the other one you mentioned we can be a bit more certain about content in the medium term.
Mostly the same for me. I've found a few ship wrecks with some canisters and that's about it, but mostly I land in the blue circle and drive around and find nothing but minerals.
You'd think as you get closer to the surface, the blue area should shrink or something, or at least show up on the SRV radar so you know where to go. I guess that's kinda the point of the fix they did in Beta 4 of being able to see certain POIs from your ship if you're close enough.
I'm trying to save up for the surface scanner first so I'll make money faster. While doing that I'm sticking to medium-sized main-sequence stars (F, G, and K). Those seem most likely to have good planets, and their habitable zones seem to be just within the range of the basic scanner. They're also probably safer to fuel scoop since I only have a basic scoop right now. I'm also only doing lone stars right now so I won't have to travel hundreds of AU within a system.
Mengy
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I hope that fixes the crashed ships and bunkers and drones and stuff from spawning thousands of light years from manned space!
Intrigued to see what becomes of the generation ships. It would be so cool, if they were to add some hidden, derelict generation ship out there in the void. It would be even cooler, if we could board them in season 3 and fight the remaining survivors turned space zombies. Or get missions from some surviving and secluded hippie community ona huge ship wreck. Get us more onion head!
It's just a hunch I have, but a lot of us explorers feel that FDev is building up to spring these "missing" on our Distant Worlds Expedition somehow. The devs have taken an unusual interest in our trip, and these "missing" posts started appearing on GalNet soon after we announced the expedition.
I'm debating taking weapons out there on my Asp....
Anton Sugar
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A few pages ago I asked people what they think could be done, in the next year and without major gameplay additions (like walking around for example), to add depth to the existing gameplay. Whether that depth is through mechanics, immersion, world-building, etc., doesn't matter.
I think a sense of progression and achievement is completely missing from the Combat "career" in the game. You get ranks and all that, but it feels more like you're filling up bars and not actually building a career.
This extends to Conflict Zones. The problem with them is that it feels like you're not really making any impact, because it's just endless respawning enemies. Cap Ships help but also kinda hurt. I hate how they're immobile. It just feels like they're purposeless, except for the FANTASTIC spectacle.
Since I still don't have a lot of time, for combat specifically, some ideas or changes I'd like to see--specifically, for the "military career" concept:
- Give us *actual* careers! If you want to join the Navy, you have to head to a recruiting/military station (new station type/model, perhaps?) and enlist
- Like the actual military, maybe there are a few different positions/assignments. Scouts for recon patrols, Special Forces (maybe made up of Vultures or something), etc.
- Enlisting actually gives you responsibilities unique to your role. That could mean "Scout and clear X location" this week, it could mean "Assist in assault of X system", etc.
- As you rank up, you can get rewards in the form of:
- Credit bonuses (based on performance, as well as rank up)
- New unique decals
- New unique skins
- Enhanced modules
- Perhaps other customizations--interior ship customization? New HUD colors, fonts, design, etc.
- Eventually, fuel, armor, and ammo costs are refundable by the military
- Small details: as you rank up, stations and other military ships address you by your title. Maybe if you're high enough rank and have enough renown, some stations or ships have an RNG roll to not even bother scanning you based on your rep or "trust". Could make a hidden life as a smuggler that much more interesting.
- NPCs that you can establish relationships with (AI wingmen, your Commanding Officer, etc.) would, of course, be fantastic, but that seems like it's not coming until late 2016, if that
Conflict Zones need an overhaul. I get that some of this won't work now, given their instanced nature, but as I said, the main problems (to me):
- No sense of impact/progression: When I go and destroy 50 ships in a Conflict Zone, how is that impacting the enemy? It's hard to tell when they seemingly have an unlimited supply. How is the system affected? Conflict Zones don't ever seem to end, or they do so without really understanding "why".
- No sense of direction/sense: CZs are just a clusterfuck of ships. Sometimes there are Wings, but they don't always seem to stick together, and sometimes there are Cap Ships, but they're just things to avoid. Are there high value ships? Is a renowned general in the battle?
- NPCs: I'd love a Total War-esque reputation system for certain units or NPCs in the military. It would be cool for these NPCs to develop into actual characters, who recognize your ship if you've fought them before, have different characteristics (as opposed to just an "Elite" or combat ranking, they could be "Careless" or "Tactical" or something that impacts how they fly and fight), etc.
- High priority targets: Identify some known high priority targets (based on kill count, rank, or some of the above) that can help turn the tide of the conflict
- Integrate cap ships: Capital ships should be there for a reason. They should move around! Not necessarily flying all of the place, but tracking or making sure it's in optimal firing position, at the very least. Let the cap ship communicate with all ships of the same side so it can give a distress call if someone is destroying it's defenses, let the cap ship suggest targets, etc.
- Economic impacts: I don't know how this is handled right now, but attach actual resources to military movements. The more ships involved, the more expensive the engagement is for the military. Fuel, ammo, repair costs, etc.--these should be considerations. It's possible they already are, but they aren't clearly communicated. I wouldn't want a Powerplay-esque level of meta detail or management, but just something that says "Hey, this conflict is getting super expensive--maybe you should help end it by doing XYZ and we'll give you a commendation"
- System and wider impacts: ideas, some more superficial than others!
- Raids: In an early dev diary, someone talks about how, in Anarchy systems, you might jump to the system and have to fly through a battle in order to get to safety. This stuff never happens, mostly because of how instances are designed around SC, and battles don't happen in SC. However, if a faction is trying to take over a system, why are stations themselves not being raided? How cool would it be to defend waves of enemies as they jump in and destroy all stations security?
- Ambushes: Take a missions that says "intel suggestions a squad of ships is jumping at 1000 hours at the Nav Beacon--intercept and destroy them". This would require you to patrol the Nav Beacon in SC and interdict the squad before they reach the CZ and, of course, you must destroy them
- Reputation: By this, I don't mean any bar to fill--rather, maybe you get a cool title based on your performance in the recent conflict. "CMDR Anton Sugar, Breaker of Pythons" or something like that. Play into the lore, have NPCs recognize you, etc. This isn't even in the case of a win, either. Maybe if you lose, some systems are sympathetic to your efforts and gives a slight military discount or something if you repair/refuel/rearm at their station
- Population impact: If a System is successfully defended, they should be ecstatic! Launch space fireworks every so often from stations, change the lights to the colors of the Federation/Empire/Alliance, etc. for a few days, send celebration parades through the system, reduce the cost of goods, etc.
Naturally, ideally, all of this would align with CGs and Powerplay. I just think that the game needs more "personality" in a way, or something to make the populated areas feel more alive. It's already the best "space loneliness" simulator
It's an interesting balance. The entire game is kinda focused on "you are unimportant--you are not the center of this world" but almost to a negative degree. The player needs to feel important, in some way.
Okay, gotta go back to work. That's just me spitballing--I fucking LOVE this game, but it could learn a lot from RPGs, as RPG elements in modern shooters, surprisingly. Give us more random events that give us chances to prove ourselves and feel relevant, rather than variations on farming! Give us people to interact with (relationships still exist in the future, right)! And add purpose to the content so it feels more like it has relevance to the system and less like "this bar is filled to a level that indicates civil war is imminent". If I'm enlisted in the Navy, treat me like I'm enlisted in the Navy!
I didn't cover anything other than military here, but I'd love different "guilds" you could join that have perks, their own missions, etc. There is a lot of overlap here with Powerplay, but PP, while fun, still feels disconnected from the universe, in a way.
EDIT: Speak of the devil.
Unrelated: beta 3 vs beta 5 (from reddit--ignore the lines, those are buggy racing routes)
Honestly I kinda prefer the before in that comparison. Seems like the noise in that alpha is too much and makes it look kinda bad IMO. Tough because they can't really quality control the generation. Definitely need to bring something else to the table for ridges and cliff and overhangs etc. I wish they'd comment on it rather than letting us wonder if the engine just can't do it or what so we can stop bitching either way.
Anton Sugar
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You're a tough nut to crack, DrBo42.
Right pic looks a thousand times better to me, largely because the detail helps define the scale. I agree, some of the details almost look like an oversharpened image, but I'd take it 8 days a week over the left.
Right pic looks a thousand times better to me, largely because the detail helps define the scale. I agree, some of the details almost look like an oversharpened image, but I'd take it 8 days a week over the left.
oktarb
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Very new to reading up on this game. I've played EVE a good deal and know that its vastly different but some parallels can be drawn.
Is a joystick/thruster a must? I tried key board and mouse (training) and ran screaming away.
Is this really an MMO, almost seems like an single player game like Rebirth. How often do you run into other players and how aggressive is PvP? In EVE its insane.
Is there exploration? Can I find some strange alien artifacts?
Is a joystick/thruster a must? I tried key board and mouse (training) and ran screaming away.
Is this really an MMO, almost seems like an single player game like Rebirth. How often do you run into other players and how aggressive is PvP? In EVE its insane.
Is there exploration? Can I find some strange alien artifacts?
Part of the reason it looks oversharpened is because of the size of that image being compressed down.
Beta 4 and beyond looks superb in motion.
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