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[Hero of Spielberg]

You agree both are consequences of someone's speech don't you?

Yes, they are. But not all situations / actions have the same consequences or even any at all. What's your point?

 

[funkygunther]

Yes, they are. But not all situations / actions have the same consequences or even any at all. What's your point?

They don't, but Musk doesn't talk about consequences. He mentions free speech, even though he actually just means types of consequences. It has never been about free speech really, as Twitter would be a bastion of it, its been about defining consequences. Not these ones, those ones. And those can be defined arbitrarily as long as other rights, eg employment, aren't encroached.

The reason he invokes free speech is a smoke screen, a diversion or a conflation, because its a phrase that comes loaded with context.

This might not be telling you anything you don't already know, but I'm wondering if others know it too each time the phrase is used in the context of Musk and Twitter.

 

[Smiggs]

Then what is the point? Is everyone on Twitter employed by Twitter? Being banned from Twitter and fired by your employer seem like 2 very different situations to me.

The point is Twitter and SpaceX are both private companies, and can do whatever they want, as long as it's not illegal. What I feel, or like/dislike about what a company does really doesn't mean anything as long as they aren't breaking the law. Am I entitled to post on Twitter, and are they violating my rights if they choose to not let me post there? Come on, the answer is no. No matter how much we think it's the "community square", it's just an online platform for people to shitpost that likely won't exist in 20 years.

Get back to me when the government actually bans you from talking about issues that matter to you. I'll be waiting, with bated breath.

 

[Mistake]

They don't, but Musk doesn't talk about consequences. He mentions free speech, even though he actually just means types of consequences. It has never been about free speech really, as Twitter would be a bastion of it, its been about defining consequences. Not these ones, those ones. And those can be defined arbitrarily as long as other rights, eg employment, aren't encroached.

The reason he invokes free speech is a smoke screen, a diversion or a conflation, because its a phrase that comes loaded with context.

This might not be telling you anything you don't already know, but I'm wondering if others know it too each time the phrase is used in the context of Musk and Twitter.

He’s also said that he’ll follow the laws. Those employees he fired can still say whatever they want. They aren’t going to jail or fined by police. You don’t have a right to coerce or intimidate coworkers and start some shindig on company time.

 

[ManaByte]

TIL Twitter, a private company, is a public platform

Twitter is a public company.

 

[funkygunther]

He’s also said that he’ll follow the laws. Those employees he fired can still say whatever they want. They aren’t going to jail or fined by police. You don’t have a right to coerce or intimidate coworkers and start some shindig on company time.

Of course, both SpaceX and Twitter are following the laws. They are only an arbiter of rights as far as the laws allow.

 

[Smiggs]

Twitter is a public company.

I don't think the government owns Twitter.

 

[ManaByte]

I don't think the government owns Twitter.

Do you know what public company means?

 

[kapshin]

Do you know what public company means?

He does the government also owns Apple, Google, GM, Ford and Walmart too, didnt you hear the news?

 

[Smiggs]

Do you know what public company means?

Come on man, you're better than this. It doesn't matter if 1 person or 1 million people own a company. It has nothing to do with the government limiting free speech.

 

[funkygunther]

I don't think the government owns Twitter.

You mean private sector vs public sector. Both SpaceX and Twitter are private sector companies, one is publicly traded (hence pedantry over public company) and one is not.

 

[Smiggs]

You mean private sector vs public sector. Both SpaceX and Twitter are private sector companies, one is publicly traded (hence pedantry over public company) and one is not.

Yeah, you're absolutely right--a poor distinction on my part. I was only meaning to show they weren't government controlled.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

TIL Twitter, a private company, is a public platform

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

I'm getting a great vibe from 2022 so far. Unwoke TV shows, movies, and big tech is now getting scared.

Unwoke TV? Where?!

 

[Ionian]

Twitter is a private company with public shareholders.

Government doesn't own it. It regulates the rules the company has to abide to.

Is Microsoft, Apple or Facebook government owned?

NO.

 

[BadBurger]

I don’t know how much of his hypocrisy and just plain idiocy and childishness this man needs to display before his worshipers stop making him into some kind of infalliable genius.

Dude was born rich and like so many others stood on the backs of others into more wealth. Now that he has to stand on his own at the top it turns out he’s just a dumb, born rich asshole after all. Like the dorkiest, corniest Bond villain imaginable.

 

[HoodWinked]

I like how the adamant "I hate Elon" cretins are somehow more insufferable than the worshippers. And they always start with how he's dumb or an idiot. It's comical in its repetition.

 

[p_xavier]

Unwoke TV? Where?!

Netflix has ones. Plus they made it clear recently that they will continue that way with the internal message that if they don't like it staff can leave.

 

[It's all in the wrist]

I don’t know how much of his hypocrisy and just plain idiocy and childishness this man needs to display before his worshipers stop making him into some kind of infalliable genius.

Dude was born rich and like so many others stood on the backs of others into more wealth. Now that he has to stand on his own at the top it turns out he’s just a dumb, born rich asshole after all. Like the dorkiest, corniest Bond villain imaginable.

He's the richest man in the world. He wasn't born that way. Money begets more money if you have some acumen. But he took money and made more money than God himself, all while contributing to society with his money making ventures. This is rare.

"He's dumb." Sure. There's hero worship on one side of the spectrum, and then there's you.

 

[BadBurger]

He's the richest man in the world. He wasn't born that way. Money begets more money if you have some acumen. But he took money and made more money than God himself, all while contributing to society with his money making ventures. This is rare.

"He's dumb." Sure. There's hero worship on one side of the spectrum, and then there's you.

The My Pillow Guy is a billionaire too. So smart.

Money = smart with you, and if someone has a lot of it, all of their clear failings can be ignored - again, to you. Got it.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

The My Pillow Guy is a billionaire too. So smart.

Money = smart with you, and if someone has a lot of it, all of their clear failings can be ignored - again, to you. Got it.

He basically lead the way in electric vehicles and space travel for the last decade also closer to my home, delivered the capacity for renewable energy. Whatever your disagreements with his personal opinions are, arguing his intelligence is a bit of a reach.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

I don’t know how much of his hypocrisy and just plain idiocy and childishness this man needs to display before his worshipers stop making him into some kind of infalliable genius.

Dude was born rich and like so many others stood on the backs of others into more wealth. Now that he has to stand on his own at the top it turns out he’s just a dumb, born rich asshole after all. Like the dorkiest, corniest Bond villain imaginable.

Everyone’s fallible, some just deliver more despite of it than others. Funnily enough, Elon Musk has contributed far more to the causes that most of his detractors supposedly support than the total sum of their individual contributions by far.

 

[BadBurger]

He basically lead the way in electric vehicles and space travel for the last decade also closer to my home, delivered the capacity for renewable energy. Whatever your disagreements with his personal opinions are, arguing his intelligence is a bit of a reach.

Electric vehicles and high capacity batteries were around before Tesla. Long, long before. The Obama administration's concerted efforts to add a million EV's to the market was far more influential than any private venture in furthering the advancements and proliferation of EV's.

Other EV manufacturers have been producing better batteries and product which is why Tesla keeps losing accreditations and tax incentives: they're nearly the worst of the lot. Almost every other manufacturer has exceeded them. One can't even get the tax credit in the US for buying an EV from Tesla any longer because their batteries are so dated in tech and efficiency.

I keep seeing praise for SpaceX, and I agree it's a great company with passionate engineers across many vocations and disciplines, but all they've done so far is use a bunch of tax incentives and grants to replicate what NASA was already capable of of a decade ago.

And I give praise to the intelligence of his staff - the people who did all of the actual work.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

And I give praise to the intelligence of his staff - the people who did all of the actual work.

This is always my favourite. Why didn’t these intelligent people organise and accomplish what they have without Elon Musk then? Why didn’t someone else hire them to achieve what they have instead of the ‘moron’ Elon Musk?

Also, weird that NASA keep buying things from SpaceX given they can’t do anything NASA already can

NASA to buy 5 more astronaut missions from SpaceX

Terms of the contract were not disclosed.

www.space.com

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

Electric vehicles and high capacity batteries were around before Tesla. Long, long before. The Obama administration's concerted efforts to add a million EV's to the market was far more influential than any private venture in furthering the advancements and proliferation of EV's.

Other EV manufacturers have been producing better batteries and product which is why Tesla keeps losing accreditations and tax incentives: they're nearly the worst of the lot. Almost every other manufacturer has exceeded them. One can't even get the tax credit in the US for buying an EV from Tesla any longer because their batteries are so dated in tech and efficiency.

That must explain why Tesla is so far behind in market share in EVs then.

 

[BadBurger]

This is always my favourite. Why didn’t these intelligent people organise and accomplish what they have without Elon Musk then? Why didn’t someone else hire them to achieve what they have instead of the ‘moron’ Elon Musk?

Also, weird that NASA keep buying things from SpaceX given they can’t do anything NASA already can

NASA to buy 5 more astronaut missions from SpaceX

Terms of the contract were not disclosed.

www.space.com

Yes, towards the tail end of the Bush admin and opening of the Obama admin the government decided to invest in private companies for space ventures.

That must explain why Tesla is so far behind in market share in EVs then.

Market share does not equal quality. Again, look at why Tesla keeps losing accreditations and tax incentives. It's not because they're putting out the best product, and it's certainly not because of any sweeping conspiracy theories concerning world governments.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

Yes, towards the tail end of the Bush admin and opening of the Obama admin the government decided to invest in private companies for space ventures.



Market share does not equal quality. Again, look at why Tesla keeps losing accreditations and tax incentives. It's not because they're putting out the best product, and it's certainly not because of any sweeping conspiracy theories concerning world governments.

The article I linked was 2 weeks ago. Nowhere near the Bush / Obama eras.

Again, even Teslas are of lesser quality now, they still lead the way and have been contributing to fewer fossil fuels being used.

Sure, he’s a dick some times. He’s not the smartest man in the world. Be that as it may, he has achieved some great things and has forced the hand of some companies which otherwise wouldn’t have changed so quickly.

Stop twisting yourself into a pretzel to try and downplay what he’s done.

 

[MastaKiiLA]

You anti-free speeches idiots that try to do cheap gotchas about the topic like this always make me lol.

Literally no one advocating for free speech is under the delusion that you should be able to shit talk openly at work about the company and/or boss and expect to not be fired.

But I get it. It's a lot harder to characterize the opposition's arguments correctly and then argue against it.

It's a lot easier to be a dishonest bitch and argue against a strawman argument.

I think there's a degree of hypocrisy/inconsistency in those claiming to be pro free speech, but then not objecting to the firing of SpaceX employees for exercising their freedom of speech.

I think everyone understands that freedom of speech does NOT mean freedom from consequences. Yet, there's some strange aversion to having consequences for speech that is considered hateful/dangerous. Freedom of speech then becomes the freedom to antagonize members of a 3rd party platform, but then not face consequences with a much larger number of voices on that platform exercise their free speech to call for my ouster. The platform holder should then be allowed to make a decision that they think is best for their business. There's no reason they should suffer potential financial penalty just to protect speech that would never fly in-person.

I think there's a discussion to be had about why right-leaning people end up finding themselves getting the hate speech label more than left-leaning people or moderates. Maybe that issue has to be addressed, as I do NOT think that speech being labeled as hateful is being mislabeled. The labels seem to fit. Are there forms of hate speech from the left and middle that should be moderated too? I don't really see anyone convincingly making that argument. Calling a racist cunt a racist cunt isn't hate speech IMO, but maybe that's a conversation that needs to be had.

Anyway, Twitter should be viewed no differently than this forum. The ban list gets updated daily with new victims, and I don't think there's any merit in those who whinge about it. If you get banned here, you're a fucking prick, or you violated the ToS. That's the long and the short of it. We don't need to protect the speech of those hateful sods who got banned when the Politics forum went under. No one is clamoring for those members to come back, and we can all agree that the qualify of discourse on the forum has benefited from that forum's removal. So Twitter doing the same doesn't make me bat an eye. Social platforms need moderation, so freedom of speech is never truly free on any of these platforms. 4chan is what you get when you support mostly free speech, and it's a fucking cesspool of degeneracy.

 

[BadBurger]

I think there's a degree of hypocrisy/inconsistency in those claiming to be pro free speech, but then not objecting to the firing of SpaceX employees for exercising their freedom of speech.

This is especially true when open or anonymous internal forums for tech and IT companies have been a thing for decades now. Plenty of other companies, including three I have worked for including my current employer, facilitate discussion mechanisms like this where everyone is free to criticize leadership without fear of reprisal (to a limit, of course - can't call them names or be racist, etc). The circulation of internal emails in companies to point out grievances has been a common thing for decades in this sector.

Musk is the only thin-skinned leader I can recall that has ever fired people over it. Not talking about firing people for crossing the line, merely for criticism.

He's a hypocrite in this circumstance - plain and simple.

 

[SJRB]

This is especially true when open or anonymous internal forums for tech and IT companies have been a thing for decades now. Plenty of other companies, including three I have worked for including my current employer, facilitate discussion mechanisms like this where everyone is free to criticize leadership without fear of reprisal (to a limit, of course - can't call them names or be racist, etc). The circulation of internal emails in companies to point out grievances has been a common thing for decades in this sector.

Musk is the only thin-skinned leader I can recall that has ever fired people over it. Not talking about firing people for crossing the line, merely for criticism.

He's a hypocrite in this circumstance - plain and simple.

 

[BadBurger]

Yes, Musk fired people for doing what has been the basic taking-to-task of leadership in tech companies for the past twenty years. By the way, I am working for a company who's tech and processes are literally key to keeping thousands of infants or thousands of in critical care adults alive at any moment. My CEO didn't fire me when I pointed out on our internal forums that our new-ish ITIL solution resulted in far too much clerical work, and that he could do a better job about communicating and road mapping future new integrations.

He rather thanked me and made meaningful changes. He also thanked me personally via phone call. Sure he could have just fired my peon ass, but he's a better man than that. That's a real leader, with thick (or hell, just normal) skin. Whatever Musk is, I don't know, he changes his skin whenever it suits him, but I do know that I for sure would never willingly work beneath such a fragile and unproductive person.

 

[HoodWinked]

Took me a bit to find the actual open letter and it is a disaster, its the typical HR type bullshit which has infected the corporate world. And its the type of shit you see when a loud vocal minority forcing everyone else to adhere. Full of the typical buzz words.

An open letter to the Executives of SpaceX,

In light of recent allegations against our CEO and his public disparagement of the situation, we would like to deliver feedback on how these events affect our company’s reputation, and through it, our mission. Employees across the spectra of gender, ethnicity, seniority, and technical roles have collaborated on this letter. We feel it is imperative to maintain honest and open dialogue with each other to effectively reach our company’s primary goals together: making SpaceX a great place to work for all, and making humans a multiplanetary species.

As SpaceX employees we are expected to challenge established processes, rapidly innovate to solve complex problems as a team, and use failures as learning opportunities. Commitment to these ideals is fundamental to our identity and is core to how we have redefined our industry. But for all our technical achievements, SpaceX fails to apply these principles to the promotion of diversity, equity, and inclusion with equal priority across the company, resulting in a workplace culture that remains firmly rooted in the status quo.

Individuals and groups of employees at SpaceX have spent significant effort beyond their technical scope to make the company a more inclusive space via conference recruiting, open forums, feedback to leadership, outreach, and more. However, we feel an unequal burden to carry this effort as the company has not applied appropriate urgency and resources to the problem in a manner consistent with our approach to critical path technical projects. To be clear: recent events are not isolated incidents; they are emblematic of a wider culture that underserves many of the people who enable SpaceX’s extraordinary accomplishments. As industry leaders, we bear unique responsibility to address this.

Elon’s behavior in the public sphere is a frequent source of distraction and embarrassment for us, particularly in recent weeks. As our CEO and most prominent spokesperson, Elon is seen as the face of SpaceX—every Tweet that Elon sends is a de facto public statement by the company. It is critical to make clear to our teams and to our potential talent pool that his messaging does not reflect our work, our mission, or our values.

SpaceX’s current systems and culture do not live up to its stated values, as many employees continue to experience unequal enforcement of our oft-repeated “No Asshole” and “Zero Tolerance” policies. This must change. As a starting point, we are putting forth the following categories of action items, the specifics of which we would like to discuss in person with the executive team within a month:

Publicly address and condemn Elon’s harmful Twitter behavior. SpaceX must swiftly and explicitly separate itself from Elon’s personal brand.

Hold all leadership equally accountable to making SpaceX a great place to work for everyone. Apply a critical eye to issues that prevent employees from fully performing their jobs and meeting their potential, pursuing specific and enduring actions that are well resourced, transparent, and treated with the same rigor and urgency as establishing flight rationale after a hardware anomaly.

Define and uniformly respond to all forms of unacceptable behavior. Clearly define what exactly is intended by SpaceX’s “no-asshole” and “zero tolerance” policies and enforce them consistently. SpaceX must establish safe avenues for reporting and uphold clear repercussions for all unacceptable behavior, whether from the CEO or an employee starting their first day.

We care deeply about SpaceX’s mission to make humanity multiplanetary. But more importantly, we care about each other. The collaboration we need to make life multiplanetary is incompatible with a culture that treats employees as consumable resources. Our unique position requires us to consider how our actions today will shape the experiences of individuals beyond our planet. Is the culture we are fostering now the one which we aim to bring to Mars and beyond?

We have made strides in that direction, but there is so much more to accomplish.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Took me a bit to find the actual open letter and it is a disaster, its the typical HR type bullshit which has infected the corporate world. And its the type of shit you see when a loud vocal minority forcing everyone else to adhere. Full of the typical buzz words.

 

[It's all in the wrist]

Ah, never mind.

 

[thefool]

This is the only way to deal and move forward with triggered employees. You throw them out.

Kraken CEO Doubles Down on Anti-Woke Culture, Says 'Triggered' Employees Should Leave - Decrypt

"The mission" above all, says CEO Jesse Powell, adding that "woke activists" among mostly new hires have been sapping company productivity.

decrypt.co

Enablers are much more dangerous that this screeching small minority. Maybe Musk can propose to them if they want to go to Mars.

 

[///PATRIOT]

Took me a bit to find the actual open letter and it is a disaster, its the typical HR type bullshit which has infected the corporate world. And its the type of shit you see when a loud vocal minority forcing everyone else to adhere. Full of the typical buzz words.

promotion of diversity, equity, and inclusion with equal priority across the company, resulting in a workplace culture that remains firmly rooted in the status quo.

Yeah, bad faith woke horseshit.

These assholes think accusing someone of racism and discrimination without actual proof and receipts will be swept off and everything is going to be fine later....
Glad Elon kicked them out.

 

[Mistake]

Yes, Musk fired people for doing what has been the basic taking-to-task of leadership in tech companies for the past twenty years. By the way, I am working for a company who's tech and processes are literally key to keeping thousands of infants or thousands of in critical care adults alive at any moment. My CEO didn't fire me when I pointed out on our internal forums that our new-ish ITIL solution resulted in far too much clerical work, and that he could do a better job about communicating and road mapping future new integrations.

He rather thanked me and made meaningful changes. He also thanked me personally via phone call. Sure he could have just fired my peon ass, but he's a better man than that. That's a real leader, with thick (or hell, just normal) skin. Whatever Musk is, I don't know, he changes his skin whenever it suits him, but I do know that I for sure would never willingly work beneath such a fragile and unproductive person.

What you’re talking about, and what was produced in that letter, seem like two entirely different things. It clearly seeks to dilute the power put in place at the company and rearrange the corporate infrastructure to suit their agenda. All the buzzwords are there and it reeks of activism. This isn’t simply critiquing the boss, as you did, but rather openly condemning Elon and everyone in management. It’s toxic behavior and they need to go

 

[DeepEnigma]

What you’re talking about, and what was produced in that letter, seem like two entirely different things. It clearly seeks to dilute the power put in place at the company and rearrange the corporate infrastructure to suit their agenda. All the buzzwords are there and it reeks of activism. This isn’t simply critiquing the boss, as you did, but rather openly condemning Elon and everyone in management. It’s toxic behavior and they need to go

It’s commie shit.

 

[BadBurger]

What you’re talking about, and what was produced in that letter, seem like two entirely different things. It clearly seeks to dilute the power put in place at the company and rearrange the corporate infrastructure to suit their agenda. All the buzzwords are there and it reeks of activism. This isn’t simply critiquing the boss, as you did, but rather openly condemning Elon and everyone in management. It’s toxic behavior and they need to go

I meant CTO in my relation BTW, not CEO, I have never discussed anything with that guy.

But anyways, we can't say what their motivations were beyond what they wrote down in the email(s). To some people collective, united criticism always equates to activism. These people may have had legitimate gripes but now we'll likely never know.

Even in such situations as the one you posited a company doesn't have to respond scorched earth like this. The leadership at Netflix were facing actual, open activists, and they didn't fire people. They just told them that if creating content you disagree with isn't for you, then either shut up and take the paycheck or take a hike.

 

[strange headache]

Woketivists are inherently unable to cooperate and compromise due to their militant thinking. It is unhealthy for team-orientated workplace culture, where departmentalized work-structure requires people to get along professionally. The letter doesn't constitute constructive criticism, the author is clearly just miffed by Elon's tweets. His rhetoric is way over the line and only serves to poison the well.

 

[Dusktildawn48]

Seeing on Twitter that the board approved the sale.

 

[ManaByte]

Seeing on Twitter that the board approved the sale.

I'm sure Twitter is being very tolerant of this decision and is absolutely not threating to send pipe bombs to him or calling him literal Hitler.

 

[ManaByte]

Meltdowns have begun. Musk is now literal super mecha Hitler.

 

[Xhosa]

This shit moves slow. I swear they approved it a month ago already.

 

[BadBurger]

Twitter shareholders getting paid for their investment. I have never seen a man take so many self-inflicted L's like Musk has during all of this drama.

I hope he enjoys watching billions of his dollars evaporate (even more than already has) as people simply move on to whatever replacement is quickly produced. Dude just threw away a chunk of his fortune because, like, the US government stopped giving him so many tax breaks for Tesla and other freebies and because he offered some flight attendant a horse to jerk him off. What a wild ride.

His supposed motivations are hard to keep up with as he changes them all of the time, but they typically revolve around money and some nebulous, ultimately pointless reasoning.

Never seen a flameout this magnificent. He's definitely going to try and weasel out of this, but hopefully the relevant regulatory bodies make an example out of this puerile wrecking ball like they did with others in the past.

 

[PnCIa]

So whats the game here? "Oh no...now they are forcing me to liquidate even more Tesla stock".

 

[funkygunther]

Has he bought it yet?

 

[MastaKiiLA]

Twitter shareholders getting paid for their investment. I have never seen a man take so many self-inflicted L's like Musk has during all of this drama.

I hope he enjoys watching billions of his dollars evaporate (even more than already has) as people simply move on to whatever replacement is quickly produced. Dude just threw away a chunk of his fortune because, like, the US government stopped giving him so many tax breaks for Tesla and other freebies and because he offered some flight attendant a horse to jerk him off. What a wild ride.

His supposed motivations are hard to keep up with as he changes them all of the time, but they typically revolve around money and some nebulous, ultimately pointless reasoning.

Never seen a flameout this magnificent. He's definitely going to try and weasel out of this, but hopefully the relevant regulatory bodies make an example out of this puerile wrecking ball like they did with others in the past.

I'm just happy to see some of the smoke and mirrors disappearing about who he really is. Elon is just another billionaire. His interests are cool scientifically, but he's not some hero for the little guy, or champion for free speech. He's just some dude looking out for his own best interests, even if that contradicts what he claims in public.

 

[Chittagong]

Absolutely terrible timing. Tesla stock is melting and Twitter is even more overvalued too. Shit must sting

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Rivian, Amazon, and Apple are snapping up laid-off Tesla employees amid Elon Musk's workforce-reduction plans

Former Tesla workers may not be on the job market for long after Elon Musk laid off 10% of salaried staff.

www.businessinsider.com

Major tech companies like Apple, Amazon, and Google have taken in dozens of former Tesla talent, according to a report from Punks & Pinstripes. The organization tracked the LinkedIn data of over 450 Tesla employees who left the company over the past 90 days as of June 30.

A large number of the workers moved to work for other EV companies. 90 former Tesla employees joined electric-car makers Rivian and Lucid Motors, per the LinkedIn data. Meanwhile only eight of the departures moved to more traditional automakers, including General Motors and Ford, Pinstripes & Punks said.

The LinkedIn data comes only a few weeks after Tesla CEO Elon Musk announced the company was cutting up to 3.5% of its total workforce, including 10% of salaried staff. Insider's Isobel Asher Hamilton previously reported that the layoffs began within days of Musk's announcement. The decision came after the billionaire warned the US was already in the midst of a recession.

Over the past few weeks, Musk has repeatedly expressed concern for the future of the company. Last month, the Tesla CEO warned that Tesla's new factories in Austin, Texas and Berlin, Germany have become "gigantic money furnaces." On Monday, it was reported that Tesla's sales had dropped by nearly 18% between April and June.

I am beginning to think this Twitter acquisition is not going to happen.