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[Nobody_Important]

Lol, what political climate is that? A social media-driven chimp frenzy for war?

So just to be clear you think that Ukraine should willingly give up its land and its people to a violent invader as a form of compromise to a war that they are currently winning?


I think you may want to take a few steps back and rethink that situation in your brain a little bit.

 

[Konnor]

What I said was a factual statement. His take was not only moronic but also incredibly ill-informed. His take was at best a pro-russian stance and given the political climate he was a moron for making it. Not only that but the entirety of the take was completely ignorant of the regional politics and the will of the people in the areas concerned. He was rightfully shredded across the board of the internet itself. Not only did the government of Ukraine shit down his throat, but essentially everyone else in the Western world did as well.


TLDR: The dude was buried for it and rightfully so. If the dude wants to spout bullshit then he should stick to the areas that he is actually informed on and not spread uninformed and inarticulate bullshit into the ether.

You're so used to your social media and the very carefully moderated propaganda you've been fed that you're under the delusion that most people think like that. The reality is though that there's a shitload of people with very different opinions on it and even more who want to end this goddamn war that is destorying our economies and will probably decimate Europe this winter asap.

 

[DeepEnigma]

When's the deal expected to go final? We are so close to a certain day, that I am expecting roadblocks until after. Would be surprised if it went smooth and without a hitch.

 

[Nobody_Important]

When's the deal expected to go final? We are so close to a certain day, that I am expecting roadblocks until after. Would be surprised if it went smooth and without a hitch.

If the reports are any indication we are talking about a matter of days. Possibly before the weekend.

 

[thefool]

Musk opinion is exactly that, his opinion. If you disagree, refute its central point, offer counter-arguments, don't police-tone or resort to childish name calling, much less insinuate that echo-chambers are useful features. You can apply this to any tweet.

My wish is that he opens the platform, be transparent about the algorithms, don't censor subjects and stimulate discussions. As it stands, it's all drivel.

 

[FunkMiller]

You're so used to your social media and the very carefully moderated propaganda you've been fed that you're under the delusion that most people think like that. The reality is though that there's a shitload of people with very different opinions on it and even more who want to end this goddamn war that is destorying our economies and will probably decimate Europe this winter asap.

You know, there's one very easy way for the war to end that would please everyone who didn't start it. Up to one man, and one man alone.

He's the one you're angry at. Nobody else.

Musk's peace proposal was fucking stupid. There's no getting away from it.

Let's hope the backlash he got has taught him a valuable lesson, and from now on he stays in the lane he's carved so successfully out for himself.

 

[Punished Miku]

Let's hope the backlash he got has taught him a valuable lesson, and from now on he stays in the lane he's carved so successfully out for himself.

All signs point to the exact opposite over the last year.

 

[Nobody_Important]

You know, there's one very easy way for the war to end that would please everyone who didn't start it. Up to one man, and one man alone.

He's the one you're angry at. Nobody else.

Musk's peace proposal was fucking stupid. There's no getting away from it.

Let's hope the backlash he got has taught him a valuable lesson, and from now on he stays in the lane he's carved so successfully out for himself.

It would be nice, but Musk sticking to things he actually knows about is just not what he does unfortunately.

Much to the dismay of everyone around him at this point I assume.

 

[NickFire]

What I said was a factual statement. His take was not only moronic but also incredibly ill-informed. His take was at best a pro-russian stance and given the political climate he was a moron for making it. Not only that but the entirety of the take was completely ignorant of the regional politics and the will of the people in the areas concerned. He was rightfully shredded across the board of the internet itself. Not only did the government of Ukraine shit down his throat, but essentially everyone else in the Western world did as well.


TLDR: The dude was buried for it and rightfully so. If the dude wants to spout bullshit then he should stick to the areas that he is actually informed on and not spread uninformed and inarticulate bullshit into the ether.

I agree with your position that he threw out a bad idea. I wish you agreed with my position that society does not need to bury people for bad takes though.

 

[Nobody_Important]

I agree with your position that he threw out a bad idea. I wish you agreed with my position that society does not need to bury people for bad takes though.

I agree that not every bad take deserves a burial.

The need for burial depends on just how bad the take is though and his take on Ukraine I was REALLY fucking bad.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Burials are selective on the twittardverse.

 

[NickFire]

I agree that not every bad take deserves a burial.

The need for burial depends on just how bad the take is though and his take on Ukraine I was REALLY fucking bad.

In out current world, when the twitter people do their usual thing, it increases the chances a bad idea will become something other people buy into. Roasting him with satire and jokes would be far more effective at countering the bad idea without spreading it.

 

[Punished Miku]

In out current world, when the twitter people do their usual thing, it increases the chances a bad idea will become something other people buy into. Roasting him with satire and jokes would be far more effective at countering the bad idea without spreading it.

Uniformity of opinion during war is the most common form of censorship in history. Same thing happened during Iraq. Same thing happened during every war ever.

That doesn't specify whether the silenced opinion is good or bad, or if the war effort is good or bad. Doesn't matter. The uniformity is the same regardless. Probably always will be.

 

[Frank Horrigan]

They seem to have a tendency to flee to other places after shitting up the places they left. A scourge.

It's OK, they can just go make their own social media platform. At least that's what they've told everyone else.

Will they follow their own advice? Will they continue to be hypocrits? Will they even leave twitter?

Find out next time! Same bat(shit) place, same bat(shit) channel

 

[DeepEnigma]

It's OK, they can just go make their own social media platform. At least that's what they've told everyone else.

Will they follow their own advice? Will they continue to be hypocrits? Will they even leave twitter?

Find out next time! Same bat(shit) place, same bat(shit) channel

They tried that experiment, until they found out the owner can read all their DMs... from the same group that shouts, "if you have nothing to hide" no less.

 

[Konnor]

You know, there's one very easy way for the war to end that would please everyone who didn't start it. Up to one man, and one man alone.

He's the one you're angry at. Nobody else.

Musk's peace proposal was fucking stupid. There's no getting away from it.

Let's hope the backlash he got has taught him a valuable lesson, and from now on he stays in the lane he's carved so successfully out for himself.

I won't go into politics since they're pretty selectively banned here, my point is that you people live in a bubble and think that everyone thinks the same because of the carefully manufactured narrative in social and corporate media. You're clearly wrong and need to spend more time outside.

 

[Vestal]

I won't go into politics since they're pretty selectively banned here, my point is that you people live in a bubble and think that everyone thinks the same because of the carefully manufactured narrative in social and corporate media. You're clearly wrong and need to spend more time outside.

Honestly anyone who thinks that Musks Ukraine proposal has any sort of merit, needs their head examined.

 

[Konnor]

Honestly anyone who thinks that Musks Ukraine proposal has any sort of merit, needs their head examined.

Sure buddy, unfortunately that's not even addressing what I just said.

 

[Vestal]

Sure buddy, unfortunately that's not even addressing what I just said.

You responded to someone talking about his comments regarding Ukraine..

 

[Konnor]

You responded to someone talking about his comments regarding Ukraine..

I responded to someone under the illusion that the entire democratic world agrees with him and disagrees with Musk.

 

[Ecotic]

Musk better enjoy this passion project, because he vastly overpaid. Based on he tried to get out of it, I feel he's going to be CEO at Twitter like a guy sitting in his timeshare, with total regret.

 

[InverseAgonist]

Musk better enjoy this passion project, because he vastly overpaid. Based on he tried to get out of it, I feel he's going to be CEO at Twitter like a guy sitting in his timeshare, with total regret.

I agree!

Although, money is sorta non-linear when you're in his wealth range; so the net effect on being overcharged is likely small compared to the perceived net effect-size he thinks can extract if he can pull this off and turn Twitter into a viable, open, fair and Western version of WeChat that can be monetized.

 

[InverseAgonist]

Calm down, dear. Musk made comment about Ukraine, ergo a valid subject in context of the acquisition.

But glad to see I live rent free in your head.

I promise not to shit on the bed.

LOL!

 

[InverseAgonist]

When's the deal expected to go final? We are so close to a certain day, that I am expecting roadblocks until after. Would be surprised if it went smooth and without a hitch.

Soon according to CNBC sources (link)

This is a very good article and Musk seems intent on making a Western WeChat type "super-app" that encompasses much functionality. Say what yiou want about him, but the man can think big. See below tweet:




EDIT: Just thinking outloud here, but crypto has still never gotten it's big push into the mainstream. It's not a viable payment service at this time. If there's a stablecoin and volatility can be controlled and scalability and transaction speeds can be addressed, integration into a WeChat Pay type service that has a billion western users could be disruptive.

 

[Trazyn the Infinite]

It would be nice, but Musk sticking to things he actually knows about is just not what he does unfortunately.

Much to the dismay of everyone around him at this point I assume.

You do realize what you just said is like 99.99999% of all users of social media, right? A bunch of random dumbasses who talk about things they don’t know?

Not defending Musk or his statements, quite frankly I don’t give two shits about his statements, but just found it funny.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

Their thought bubble is about to pop and they know it

Yo Lady Jane got banned for being an alt. Still doesn't "prove" it was a LARP all along but, yeah, this account was always a LARP lol


There were times when their "voice" would change and it always smelled a little fishy to me

 

[Ogbert]

So just to be clear you think that Ukraine should willingly give up its land and its people to a violent invader as a form of compromise to a war that they are currently winning?


I think you may want to take a few steps back and rethink that situation in your brain a little bit.

You volunteering?

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Honestly anyone who thinks that Musks Ukraine proposal has any sort of merit, needs their head examined.

All the soldiers and civilians who die after Musks tweet will think he made some salient points.

 

[akimbo009]

Soon according to CNBC sources (link)

This is a very good article and Musk seems intent on making a Western WeChat type "super-app" that encompasses much functionality. Say what yiou want about him, but the man can think big. See below tweet:




EDIT: Just thinking outloud here, but crypto has still never gotten it's big push into the mainstream. It's not a viable payment service at this time. If there's a stablecoin and volatility can be controlled and scalability and transaction speeds can be addressed, integration into a WeChat Pay type service that has a billion western users could be disruptive.

No credit given which is just ripping off facist state systems from China... It's absolutely horrible, but not a shock coming from Elon who absolutely adores Xi and that genocidal regime.

 

[MightySquirrel]

I guess will be a good time to make a twitter account.

PS: Where do you request a permban?

 

[BadBurger]

Soon according to CNBC sources (link)

This is a very good article and Musk seems intent on making a Western WeChat type "super-app" that encompasses much functionality. Say what yiou want about him, but the man can think big.

Twitter needs a lot of work, if he transforms it into a WeChat clone it could only be an improvement.

Twitter is too reliant on hashtags. The interest / category system they introduced is useless, can only be opted into / out of at random and is poorly curated. They've needed some sort of user-driven categorization system similar to subreddits for years. Words and phrases one mutes is ignored by their sponsored content and ads. Its algorithms arguably does the poorest job around at displaying content that should interest a user - typically overloading a person with a deluge of a single topic for days, all because maybe they read one person's account that is associated with that topic, or perhaps searched for it once or twice. The 'edit' feature is still in some kind of vague beta testing phase. Editing. Still in beta. The list goes on, and on, and on.

My ultimate hope from this acquisition is that it will spur someone to create an alternative with all of the things people have been asking for for years but Twitter has been ignoring. If that product is whatever Musk transforms it into, great, but I'd rather that solution be from a public company with a proper, functioning board, and not a private one run by a single volatile man.

 

[Vestal]

All the soldiers and civilians who die after Musks tweet will think he made some salient points.

So you are arguing in favor of appeasement?

 

[JonSnowball]

Say what yiou want about him, but the man can think big.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Bill Burr is a national treasure.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

Can I have my circa-2005 Lefties back when it was, "No blood for oil," these modern, "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD," Lefties are going to drag us all into a nuclear holocaust.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Can I have my circa-2005 Lefties back when it was, "No blood for oil," these modern, "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD," Lefties are going to drag us all into a nuclear holocaust.

The past two years did not help with polarizing people deeper into their bubbles, that they don’t realize how fragile/vulnerable our current privileges are.

 

[akimbo009]

Can I have my circa-2005 Lefties back when it was, "No blood for oil," these modern, "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD," Lefties are going to drag us all into a nuclear holocaust.

What does this even mean?

Edit: nevermind, too political

 

[Ogbert]

So you are arguing in favor of appeasement?

Appeasement?

Why are people so insanely binary? There’s no good outcome in this. There’s no moral position that you can take that marks you out as virtuous. Of course Ukraine should defend itself. That’s not the point. The point is how willing the West is to provoke a legitimate tyrant who is doing an impression of Peter the Great.

Sabre rattling is fine. It’s easy and it gets a round of applause. But i’m personally not as comfortable with the idea of NATO dragging us into WW3.

Others may be more comfortable with that.

They tend to be on the other side of the world though.

 

[BadBurger]

Appeasement?

Why are people so insanely binary? There’s no good outcome in this. There’s no moral position that you can take that marks you out as virtuous. Of course Ukraine should defend itself. That’s not the point. The point is how willing the West is to provoke a legitimate tyrant who is doing an impression of Peter the Great.

Sabre rattling is fine. It’s easy and it gets a round of applause. But i’m personally not as comfortable with the idea of NATO dragging us into WW3.

Others may be more comfortable with that.

They tend to be on the other side of the world though.

The point is one never appeases an aggressor, especially an autocrat like Putin, a lesson the world learned nearly a hundred years ago. No offense but your post reads the same as a bad New York Times editorial headline take.

"Putin may be invading an innocent neighbor and ally to NATO while murdering hundreds of innocents, but here's why not giving Putin everything he wants is bad news for his future innocent victims and the West - By Maureen Dowd"

 

[Ogbert]

The point is one never appeases an aggressor, especially an autocrat like Putin, a lesson the world learned nearly a hundred years ago. No offense but your post reads the same as a bad New York Times editorial headline take.

"Putin may be invading an innocent neighbor and ally to NATO while murdering hundreds of innocents, but here's why not giving Putin everything he wants is bad news for his future innocent victims and the West - By Maureen Dowd"

I understand that and no offense taken.

I am genuinely worried about Russia. I think there is a legitimate nuclear risk at hand. I could see Putin being aggressive enough to strike somewhere like Finland in order to force NATOs hand.

If people are comfortable with that then so be it. That’s on them.

 

[BadBurger]

I understand that and no offense taken.

I am genuinely worried about Russia. I think there is a legitimate nuclear risk at hand. I could see Putin being aggressive enough to strike somewhere like Finland in order to force NATOs hand.

If people are comfortable with that then so be it. That’s on them.

I understand, no one wants escalation, probably not even Putin. But I just think it needs to be emphasized that Russia is entirely at fault, and stopping them without concessions is the only way to deal with such an aggressor. Can't give them what they want just because they have nukes. The same goes for any nuclear power.

 

[Ogbert]

I understand, no one wants escalation, probably not even Putin. But I just think it needs to be emphasized that Russia is entirely at fault, and stopping them without concessions is the only way to deal with such an aggressor. Can't give them what they want just because they have nukes. The same goes for any nuclear power.

There’s very few people that are genuinely trying to underplay Russia’s culpability. You get a few USSR old boys in the UK, clutching their copy of the Morning Star and blathering about the West.

The culpability is clear. It is a just war.

It’s never been about who is in the right or wrong; rather what consequences we are prepared to accept.

We need to think what deescalation looks like and how we could achieve it. As fucking crack handed and pitiful as Musk’s suggestion was (principally as it was delivered by a Goddamn Twitter post), there has to be a resolution that allows Putin to save some sort of face but withdraw from Ukraine.

Threatening NATO expansion will not work.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Based on what happened to the WaPo after another tech billionaire bought it, I don’t have much hopes for a Twitter led by another tech Billionaire. IMHO and all that.

 

[Tams]

You're so used to your social media and the very carefully moderated propaganda you've been fed that you're under the delusion that most people think like that. The reality is though that there's a shitload of people with very different opinions on it and even more who want to end this goddamn war that is destorying our economies and will probably decimate Europe this winter asap.

Europe will get through this winter. Russian soldiers on the other hand?

Sure, they are morons who think only of themselves, but thankfully all but the very worst of our leaders recognise that letting Russia gain anything from invading Ukraine is an existential threat to us.

Now, go to Russia and join their army as you're such an appeaser.

 

[Ogbert]

Europe will get through this winter. Russian soldiers on the other hand?

Sure, they are morons who think only of themselves, but thankfully all but the very worst of our leaders recognise that letting Russia gain anything from invading Ukraine is an existential threat to us.

Now, go to Russia and join their army as you're such an appeaser.

Out of interest, if he’s an appeaser and should go join Russia, doesn’t the same principle apply to you?

As a proud defender of liberty, why aren’t you in Ukraine?

 

[Tams]

Out of interest, if he’s an appeaser and should go join Russia, doesn’t the same principle apply to you?

As a proud defender of liberty, why aren’t you in Ukraine?

Because I don't have the requisite skills to be of use there. It's more efficient that I do my job, pay my taxes, and then my government send Ukriane supplies and train them.

I suggested he go to Russia to enjoy the bootlicking he so clearly enjoys.

 

[01011001]

Europe will get through this winter. Russian soldiers on the other hand?

global warming is helping here lol. nowadays winters in central Europe are super mild, and given that out houses are build to be super isolating I barely even have to heat.

I'll get by

I remember as a kid when almost every year our streets were frozen and snow high enough to make half your leg wet and cold while walking through it... shit like that hasn't happened in at least 15 years

 

[Ogbert]

Because I don't have the requisite skills to be of use there. It's more efficient that I do my job, pay my taxes, and then my government send Ukriane supplies and train them.

I suggested he go to Russia to enjoy the bootlicking he so clearly enjoys.

Well, I certainly have no issue with financial support.

Would you have Ukraine join NATO? And, if so, what do
you think Russia’s response would be?

 

[MastaKiiLA]

Based on what happened to the WaPo after another tech billionaire bought it, I don’t have much hopes for a Twitter led by another tech Billionaire. IMHO and all that.

I wasn't aware WaPo ever changed ownership, as I hadn't noticed a change in their content. Perhaps you could provide more detail about what exactly happened to the Washington Post, since Bezos purchased them?

 

[Maiden Voyage]