Thirty7ven
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What the hell
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Embracer Group enters into an agreement to acquire Eidos, Crystal Dynamics, and Square Enix Montréal amongst other assets
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They aren't making alot
balls of snow
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Motherfuckers bring back Deus Ex.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Sony probably saw something messy with all these mismanaged studios and didn't want to take part of this.
It's not just about getting IPs.
Sony was always more interested on the Japanese side of Square-Enix tbh.
onnextflix5
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I get why ms did not bid, as they are tied up with acti deal, but why did sony not bid, surely these devs are worth way more then 300 mill.
nominedomine
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Makes you wonder if they aren't tied up with something else too, this was a bargain for 300m, I doubt there's any better deal out there. Hopefully the rumored Sony is interested in Ubisoft aren't real.
I just can't understand how they sold it for so little while including the IPs and the past games.
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Thirty7ven
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Avengers was a disaster and Guardians too, these studios weren’t making any money for years.
It’s funny that Crystal Dynamics was sold to someone else other than MS though, considering they are developing PD.
Guess SE is out of the Marvel business too.
It’s funny that Crystal Dynamics was sold to someone else other than MS though, considering they are developing PD.
Guess SE is out of the Marvel business too.
anthony2690
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I'd personally say this crystal dynamics/Eidos deal is a lot better when you look at all the ips.
Insomniac came with no ips other than sunset overdrive & maybe song of the deep (anyone even remember this game?)
That being said Insomniac is a good purchase for Sony as they own a lot of their older ips that they worked on.
& The Spiderman game has massively propelled their popularity.
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nikolino840
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And what about the shareholders in Square?
bitbydeath
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The games are better IP from a gaming perspective.
nominedomine
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Insomniac looks great because they completely overdeliver, but this deal is better. All the new owner has to not be as incompetent as SE in managing these studios and IPs.
Cyber_hunter026
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Where did you get that sony is interested in Ubisoft. I thought it was WB Games or atleast some of if not one or two studios?
I'd argue that guardian's of the galaxy was far better if not superior to marvel's avengers both critic and player wise reception. if it sold less is because of squares abysmal marketing of the game. and agreed, leave it to developers like insomniac and skybound who whoever else that knows that they are doing.
nominedomine
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I don't know, too many rumors to track. I don't like them purchasing neither WB or Ubisoft. Really bad fits, this one would've been so much better.
This deal is so good that it make pretty much all past deals like Bungie, Activision Blizzard and Bethesda look like complete rip-offs.
Honestly this might be even better than Kadokawa buying From Software in 2014 an absolute bargain. So much could be done with these studios and IPs and it's not like they were exposed as bad devs, SE was the one that apparently made sure their games tanked by misusing them.
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SublimeCorruptor
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If we can a sequel to the best ever stealth series it will be a... steal.
lyan
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Well-known IPs that not enough people actually pay / play.
Don't even know if it really is SquareEnix's fault if people look at Eidos' history.
Cyber_hunter026
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Yeah too many, but the only one I've seen is. despite being a rumor as well, is sony is interested other than microsoft and EA in WB games.
Ass of Can Whooping
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I think it's safe to assume they're eyeing all of them regardless of whatever rumours say
All depends on when the opportunity presents itself
Dick Jones
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300m for proven IPs, a couple of studios and the only AAAA studio. Absolute steal and this explains how SE kept fucking over the western studios. We all thought the western division would be sold off but no one expected it would be sold for peanuts.
Cyber_hunter026
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Yeah similar to fishing. it depends on which ever big fish takes the bait.
I Master l
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300m is nothing for these studios and IPs. SE must be really hard up for money
nominedomine
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This make me think SE is going the same way as Konami, saying that they'll use the money in blockchain, AI, and cloud is completely out of touch with reality and shows how bad their leadership is.
MS is really close to Crystal Dynamics and Tomb Raider, really strange that they were not willing to pay for them. I wouldn't be surprised if we found out SE closed this deal without shopping it around first like the Houston Texans with DeAndre Hopkins.
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Bo_Hazem
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Sounds more like owning those 3 branches + publishing rights of their in development games. Tomb Raider alone cost Microsoft $100M for just 1 year exclusive nearly a decade ago. Reading through it it's clear that they only got the devs and temporary publishing rights of games that are still in development.
nominedomine
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Makes a little more sense if it was that.
edit: It doesn't look like that's the case, they seem to be getting the IP rights.
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nominedomine
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Lara being introduced in Uncharted would made them more than 300m and they would even have bought a studio suitable to take over the franchise, allowing Naughty Dog to move on from it. Imagine if you are playing Uncharted and the "antagonist" that is looking for the same treasure shows up and it's none other than Lara Croft, would've been great.
This is such a steal that it makes other publishers look bad and makes you wonder if they aren't being overvalued.
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nominedomine
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They'll soon reach Konami levels of disfunction at this rate. We better enjoy their good games while they last.
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SLB1904
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This. What a shit show.
Bernd Lauert
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Ironically, Konami is doing better than ever in terms of financial results.
nominedomine
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That's not what I care about and it's not like actually being capable of producing games would be a bad thing for them financially. I bet a bunch of mobile publishers are doing great as well, for now. I don't even know where Konami profits are coming from, they are into some weird business in Japan.
Imagine owning as many great IPs like Konami and being completely unable to do anything with them, absurd.
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yazenov
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I think SE just wanted to get rid of those studios as this was a packaged deal and they thought those Ips were in spiraling decline anyways. The juice was not worth the squeeze.
Also, SE is now looking more attractive to a potential Sony buyout without the "access fat".
Also, SE is now looking more attractive to a potential Sony buyout without the "access fat".
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Craig of War
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It not that they are unable i think they just don't care to be honest
Which is a shame to have such great IPs like Metal Gear, Silent Hill & Castlevania
& do nothing video game wise with it is unforgiveable to us gamers
Papacheeks
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This is what i think chatter was we heard last year that Square was not happy with Western Studios. Glad this happened actually.
Square was spread too thin for the longest time and honestly having them focus on eastern made games will strengthen their brand instead of having a mix bag of middling tomb raider's, Just cause, ect.
I wonder if eastern part of Square now thats its leaner, will be bought now by Sony?
Square was spread too thin for the longest time and honestly having them focus on eastern made games will strengthen their brand instead of having a mix bag of middling tomb raider's, Just cause, ect.
I wonder if eastern part of Square now thats its leaner, will be bought now by Sony?
SlimySnake
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Wtf only $300 million And Sony and Microsoft couldn’t afford this?
No idea what the fuck is going on. How can you spend $3.6billion for bungie or $70 billion for Activision and pass on a cheap purchase for two fantastic studios like this.
Edy: actually nvm this is a good thing that they have stayed multiplatform.
No idea what the fuck is going on. How can you spend $3.6billion for bungie or $70 billion for Activision and pass on a cheap purchase for two fantastic studios like this.
Edy: actually nvm this is a good thing that they have stayed multiplatform.
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TheDreadLord
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Well, they do release s few A and B tier titles so I hope that they bring back a few o Eidos more obscure franchises such as Kane and Lynch. Btw, wasn’t Crystal Dynamics helping with Perfect Dark dev?
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Ass of Can Whooping
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Square hasn't been bought so yeah can still happen
NiiloPielinen
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Someone is offering them a great deal for a bunch of ape NFTs and they need cash fast.
xHunter
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And you told us MS is going to buy them when their game is good:
probably if it end being good Ms will buy both (CD studios) when perfect dark end
How is that strong relationship looking now?
