Play before on the Wii U, you chopped out part of the convo, or moved the goal posts.
Emily Rogers: Splatoon Switch is not a sequel, allegedly. Same for Mario Kart.
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Play before on the Wii U, you chopped out part of the convo, or moved the goal posts.
Gai Murakumo
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Come on Snake, Wolf and Ice Climbers for Smash port.
DigitalRicket
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Since the Wii U wasn't a smash success I would say the majority of people will not have played these titles before so it makes sense to give them another life on the Switch where hopefully they can leverage the investments on development for porting. All of the games were super quality products that deserved much more than the Wii U had to offer.
It's a good thing IMO, launching with a new platform will give these games a new lease of life. They deserve better than to be trapped with the tiny Wii U audience. It also frees up resources as these ports won't need full teams.
If Smash, Mario Kart, Zelda and Splatoon are all there within weeks of launch....this thing might just take off.
It's going to be like every launch lineup in the last few years, yes.
If Smash, Mario Kart, Zelda and Splatoon are all there within weeks of launch....this thing might just take off.
It's going to be like every launch lineup in the last few years, yes.
So why is nobody asking about Retro? Would've sword we would have 3 or 4 locked threads about it.
Wii U owners are probably the least enticed to get a Switch at this point, except for the more disposable income gadget heavy kind that buys day 1.
Unsurprised. I'd expect entirely new weapons and maybe playable Octolings (or something of the like) for it to even feel like a sequel. New mechanics make a new game, not different cosmetics.
Gloves or pants can be paired with existing gear formats, in the same way Octo Tee has wristbands.
Gloves or pants can be paired with existing gear formats, in the same way Octo Tee has wristbands.
Do you consider Super Mario 64 DS to be a sequel instead of a port? Because it, too, revamped the game's look (character models and textures). It also restructured the campaign and added three new playable characters, three new levels, three new bosses, 30 new stars, new powerups, new minigames, etc.
LordKasual
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It's been a while. But it is definitely the darkest moment in gaming for me.
It had great exclusives, but then it just had nothing...and then one of its greatest exclusives jumped ship and got a content update exclusively for PS2!
Then Twilight Princess got held ransom for the Wii.
Nintendo consoles since GCN all have the same issue for me. I've been meaning to get a WiiU for the longest, but I refuse to pay money for a system i'm only going to use to troll around on Smash's horrible For Glory mode every now and then. Hopefully that changes with Switch, but everything just looks too familiar.
PS4 and Xbone released to pretty new tech demos and announcements of games that weren't possible on Ps3/Xbox. Switch is debuting with a Zelda game that's also releasing on WiiU, a game that already launched on WiiU, and a port of a 5 year old elder scrolls...outside the portability i dont really know what to be hype for.
outunderthestars
Banned
Finally? Do we not exist in a world where Nintendo remade/rereleased games for the gameboy color, SNES, GBA, DS, 3DS, N64 GameCube, Wii, and Wii U.
I can name at least one remake/remaster being sold on literally every major Nintendo platform since the SNES.
WrenchNinja
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Do you live in a bubble? People have been criticising remasters since the ps4 and xbone came out. Knock it off with this bullshit.
This is what I want. A Wii U ambassador program.
Diddy Kong
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I'm surprised Splatoon isn't a sequel. Didn't Nintendo say the original game isn't possible without the Gamepad?
balladofwindfishes
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The NES had arcade ports, as well, which should count. Even if they weren't really enhanced, but were more often scaled down.
I mean parading remasters front and center and making a big deal of them and taking spotlights in launch lineups. That was never as significant as this gen, where remasters make up an arguably large portion of the system's libraries.
outunderthestars
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Yea but with the PS4 and BOX one you were often getting sizeable jumps in graphical quality coming from the previous generation. Many remasters are also, in fact, reduced in price. People also bitched about them plenty. People have the right to bitch and moan in here until Nintendo gives them a reason not to.
balladofwindfishes
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The premiere Nintendo made launch title of the GBA was a port of a remake of a game from 1988.
Because Switch graphics are the same as Wii U or maybe slightly better. A new Mario Kart is a bit pointless.
The best bet is to take the one they have and add new mechanics, tracks snd characters.
I can see you can now have 2 items
I can already see a new character
Add a ton more tracks and new cups and rename.the game
Mario Kart Switch and release it for launch.
Then for the sequel Nintendo can try something completely different my suggestion would be Smash Bros Kart with weapons, tracks atndjd characters from other games like Metroid.
The best bet is to take the one they have and add new mechanics, tracks snd characters.
I can see you can now have 2 items
I can already see a new character
Add a ton more tracks and new cups and rename.the game
Mario Kart Switch and release it for launch.
Then for the sequel Nintendo can try something completely different my suggestion would be Smash Bros Kart with weapons, tracks atndjd characters from other games like Metroid.
DeuceGamer
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I'm fine with the ports, but my concern is that a lot of those looking to buy a switch early, probably already owned a Wii U and some/most of those games. That said, I personally don't have a problem with it as long as there is enough new content, either in the ports, or with newly released titles, to keep me busy as a Wii U owner.
Add a true battle mode to MK8 Switch, and I would easily purchase it again as someone that's owned MK8 since launch.
Sword Of Doom
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With their pricing for games, that sucks for physical owners.
I still imagine Nintendo could easily just brand the NS Splatoon as a sequel since they seem to be going the extra mile in terms of revamping the presentation. There's not really much that would be required of it in order to reach a sequel definition. I don't think the Emily Rogers tweet is indicative over how the game is going to be, the only thing it reaffirms is that Splatoon made it's way to the NS - possibly with the assumption that it was going to be just a port. Mario Kart 8 being a port is more explicit in comparison.
Super Mario 64 DS is a remake, and it didn't come out two years after it's original version. Not to mention, Splatoon is the kind of game that isn't that hard to take, expand and call a sequel since it thrives mainly on the content it offers in a multiplayer capacity. Aside from making a new single player mode to go along with it and adding more modes/local multi/possibly tournament functionality, what would Splatoon "need" to be a sequel instead of a re-release? It's like how if you compare the BlazBlue games, they might look the same even though they're still considered sequels.
Super Mario 64 DS is a remake, and it didn't come out two years after it's original version. Not to mention, Splatoon is the kind of game that isn't that hard to take, expand and call a sequel since it thrives mainly on the content it offers in a multiplayer capacity. Aside from making a new single player mode to go along with it and adding more modes/local multi/possibly tournament functionality, what would Splatoon "need" to be a sequel instead of a re-release? It's like how if you compare the BlazBlue games, they might look the same even though they're still considered sequels.
outunderthestars
Banned
Seriously, they have been doing this for decades. They mastered the remaster/rerelease before Sony or MS ever made a single console game.
A sequel is not required to have "2" anywhere in its title, and once that's gone the casual market wouldn't care as its not a story-driven.
If someone wanted the full Splatoon experience it's already impossible, maps have changed and updates have been made, only people who bought the game at launch would have the true full experience. Even for the paranoid that would care about not playing the prequel (yet somehow haven't played it already), they're still ultimately missing out on part of the community's memories, and they can never be truly fulfilled.
Start a new chapter and move on.
zackmorris
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Most remasters don't come out at full price. Skyrim is rare in that they are charging 60 for it.
it makes sense when you consider the attach rate of those games on Wii U as well as how many units the Wii U sold
these games were both extremely well received by the people who played them and totally slept on by a significant chunk of the gaming population due to not owning the hardware that played them
It's a remake. Like the Pokemon remakes, except with fewer graphical improvements.
Either I have a different definition of port/remaster than other people, or these are same engine iterative sequels. Which is an important difference for marketing at least. If they manage to carry over all the previous content, well more is better, especially with these two content light games.
With Splatoon I suppose it'll be easier to determine the status of when we see the single-player. If it's the same, then that's a strong argument for remaster. If it's different, definitely a sequel.
B1gg_Randall
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Alcotholic
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I never bought any of the smash DLC, so if it gets ported as the definitive edition Im down.
Hispanic! At the Disco
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Never bought splatoon so i'll probably get all 4 on NS! I need those smash and mk8 enhancements lol
DrROBschiz
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I totally called this and I totally dig it
Makes zero sense to have these large investment titles die with the WiiU
NEW LIFE SON
outunderthestars
Banned
TheDinoman
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Why would they add stuff to MK8 but leave Smash unchanged?
Empyrean Heaven
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Ice Climbers, Wolf, and Snake for Smash please!
Konami was listed as a developer! YOU DON'T KNOW!!!
Seriously, they have been doing this for decades. They mastered the remaster/rerelease before Sony or MS ever made a single console game.
It's not a badge of honor. It's a scarlet letter.
Toadthemushroom
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A lot of the things it did add took away from the original game, and the rest were mostly harmless additions.
The concern is that Switch Splatoon may well not *feel* or *play* the same as it once did due to the lack of real-time map and launch points.
I think they'll map jumping to buttons, not sure how they'll do as detailed a map without making a cluttered HUD though.
If I see The Ice Climbers in Smash 4, i will cry with happiness...
I'm going to assume most of the launch window (first year or w/e) will consist of ports.
I think only ones I'd consider re-purchasing is mario kart and splatoon. Don't care for smash. But if true, sucks for wii u owners. Got beta-tested, oh well.
Splatoon looks more than just a port so far. The development for the wii u version is finished meaning no more dlc and I don't think there's anymore splatfests. The NX version probably have splatfests, and updates
"Nobody bought a Wii U so it's new to them!"
I would call that a "remake", personally.
Tomb Raider and The Last of Us got enhanced ports literally a year later and people bought them. Weren't they full-price, too?
Triforce141
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Map it to the - button, most first party Wii U games used that button to switch to the second screen anyway, and most shooters have a detailed scoreboard when you press the same button also? What's different from that compared to moving your head down to see what's going on the gamepad, they both block your normal peripheral view anyway?
As for jumping... I got nothing.