OrbitalBeard
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This is really only the case if you believe Nintendo 3DS is getting a successor with its own ecosystem and software.
Emily Rogers: Splatoon Switch is not a sequel, allegedly. Same for Mario Kart.
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This is really only the case if you believe Nintendo 3DS is getting a successor with its own ecosystem and software.
I wonder if they'll attempt an ambassador program like they did with the 3ds and Wii U launch. With those, they were "Oops, we're flopping, here's a bunch of free stuff for buying it early."
Will they be all "Oops you were a loyal Wii U owner, here's a bunch of free stuff for buying that mistake?" It would cater to their loyal fanbase along with the assumption that they're going to massively expand upon it with their "upgraded ports."
I have a lot of Wii U games digitally, such as Splatoon and Mario Kart. It would be REALLY REALLY nice/smart of them if when entering the eShop for the Switch versions, there would be a prompt saying "I see you own the original. You may purchase the Super Switch Splatoon version digitally for 50% off."
I also don't wanna pay for my Virtual Console shit yet again (Wii U or 3DS). Hopefully they'll upgrade their content with some kind of trophy system and whatever minimum effort is required to reprogram it all, and they'll consider those programming costs not worth penny pinching their die-hards again. I have a MyNintendo account telling them what I own now, dammit.
GhostTrick
Banned
Well, Nintendo seems to consider worthwile to support it up to 2018, as a backup plan. This is also a matter of quality too.
OrbitalBeard
Member
I think it's less of a backup plan and more of a fact that 3DS has 60 million users and this is probably a good time for harvesting, particularly with the younger demographic.
Not really.
So many games wishes they sold as well as a lot of Wii u first party outputs
Like Mario kart 8 sold 7.70milloon
Smash 4 sold almost 5million ( would of sold more if there wasn't a 3ds version imo)
And splatoon a brand new ip is at 4 million.
With a install base of 11million these games sold above expectations
The Mario game could be late into the development but got to see when they'll release it still, didn't they say it'll be playable at E3 2017?
There was nothing "weird" about Mario Kart 8 controls.
They only did that with the 3DS though, not the Wii U.
If? Switch will obviously get original games lol.
Neoleo2143
Member
I didn't try to insinuate that. Unlike gamecube to wii ports like Twilight Princess, they don't have to make an entirely different control scheme, which means that's free time devoted to making content.
The 3DS Ambassador stuff happened because they slashed the price of the thing within 3 months of launching it.
Discounts would be great, yeah, but I highly doubt they're gonna happen if they're going into these games and adding stuff. I didn't get a discount for all the PS3 games I bought lastgen that were up-ported to PS4. Mario Kart for example will be nearly 3 years old when Switch launches.
I think the best we can hope for here is lower pricepoints for these upgraded re-releases.
It's not really a backup plan, it's just minimal support to help stretch out the long tail of sales as 3DS becomes their cheap budget console. I'd expect a big price drop for the N3DS right as Switch comes out.
ArtHands
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Its for the people who didn't buy a Wii U and want to play those games.
There was a Wii U ambassador program. It let you buy a lot of Virtual Console stuff for 99 cents for the early adopters. "Sorry for sucking."
A new console means it wouldn't be the same concept. But for a loyal Wii U owner, "sorry for sucking" might still apply, though Nintendo might just count on the hardcore to buy a minorly evolved Smash/Kart/Splatoon at full price anyway.
Who are they selling Mario Kart to though? The ones who never picked it up on Wii U, probably. Looks to be the same game, maybe a DLC pack? But of course who can tell from a couple second clip, just speculate. It was an existing course with a new character (King Boo) and a new gimmick (item switching). Looks like the same base game.
Maybe you get a discount if you put fragments of the Wii U disc of a title into the SD card slot. Otherwise I cannot imagine how they would want to identify whether somebody owns the Wii U version already.
Pokemaniac
Member
This rumor really doesn't gel that well with the footage that we've seen, particularly re: Splatoon. Mario Kart I can kinda see, but the bar for new content in a Mario Kart game is low enough that I'd be pretty pissed at Nintendo if they didn't manage to meet it.
If anything, I think this rumor might be a misunderstanding of porting vs building on top of. Both of these games very well could be built on top of the previous entries, but they both contain new content that would be odd to see outside of proper sequels, and are unlikely to be ports as a result.
If anything, I think this rumor might be a misunderstanding of porting vs building on top of. Both of these games very well could be built on top of the previous entries, but they both contain new content that would be odd to see outside of proper sequels, and are unlikely to be ports as a result.
BarringGaffner
Member
good luck convincing Nintendo fans that the Wii U 1st party games were mostly mediocre. They even defend Star Fox as being worth playing.
Nintendo better massively improve the quality and amount of their own games on Switch... at least if they want my money again. I feel completely ripped off by Wii U compared to other consoles.
Really depends on how they position the game. The 2 items thing alone tells me they're going to have to at the very least re-balance it. If it's just a smattering of new content added to MK8 they're going to have trouble with fans I think, but if it's a lot of new stuff built on top of the "skeleton" of MK8 I could see them treating it as a new game.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
This is a great idea and Microsoft and Sony are doing the same thing to great success. We shouldn't let great games be locked down to proprietary hardware.
I really don't think the owe anything to Wii U owners. It had a good library over the years.
"they" are not Nintendo. "they" are people who want this info out there.
GhostTrick
Banned
What would you consider a Smash Bros, a Mario Kart, or a Donkey Kong worth playing, for example? I'd love to hear you explain how those games failed to meet standards of quality.
First, you're making mountains of molehills. Second, even if you were right, it's still not even remotely a big deal to correct. Add a few frames of animation to the map screen opening to create a short delay and/or have the map obscure the entire screen, so you can't see both at once.
boneyjangles
Member
Exactly what I wanted, reworked enhanced ports. Now hopefully they are on the e-store at a good price.
The Silver
Member
Let's get Bayonetta 2 and W101 so I can finally play them.
Spieler Eins
Member
They are porting literally the only couple of WiiU games that actually were successful, so this isn't even true. These titles of all things needed real sequels. Though, they at least recognize that they don't even need to bother with failures like DK and Starfox which already didn't excite anyone once.
But hey, people can finally enjoy the hidden gem Skyrim.
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
Digital bought games are tied to your account.
Discount only for people who buys the games digital. People who bought the physical versions can sell them anyway to get some kind of "discount".
By the way, people who bought VC games on Wii got them cheaper on Wii U.
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
Very unlikely that these games will be ported. They port the successful games like Splatoon.
BMX Bandit
Member
Has xenoblade been mentioned at all?
WordAssassin
Member
Literally the entire reason the Switch exists the way it does is to unify Nintendo's development teams from supporting two systems down to one. The only way it won't have great 1st party output is if Nintendo suddenly starts making shitty games.
Spieler Eins
Member
They've released one critical flop after another in the last years, both on WiiU and 3DS. Switch has yet to prove that they haven't been bleeding talent hard.
WordAssassin
Member
This is news to me, what besides Star Fox was a flop!?!
In what world did people not like Donkey Kong?
Hahaha...wut.
TheDinoman
Member
I guess he's mostly referring to its underwhelming sales, which is really the Wii U's install base fault honestly.
Spieler Eins
Member
Starfox, Federation Force, Codename Steam, Animal Crossing Party, Devil's Third, Mario & Luigi, Colour Splash (particulary compred to what the series has once been), Kirby U, Yoshi's 3DS Island, Chibi Robo 2D thing, Fatal Frame 5, Zelda multiplayer, etc...
While hardly any series could top the acclaim of previous installments ever since WiiU came out. They've been publishing lots of junk recently.
Donkey Kong Country is a flagship series, whose job it is to create a userbase to begin with. But alas, no one gave a damn about the umpteenth 2D rehash/glorified Wii game.
I don't get the "people who didn't buy the Wii U will want this!" argument for what will likely be 12-24 months of Nintendo mining the Wii U library to cover a lack of new content.
I mean, what is the big lure of the Switch over the Wii U when it first came out other than being new? Unprotected 7" screen plus controller attachments and ~3 hr battery life doesn't scream 3DS market alternative to me. Is the system going to be equal or better than a PS4 for multi platform games? Doesn't sound like it.
It just sounds like newness creating interest that then uses Wii U ports as a reason to be excited in the software. You can play most of these titles now for hardware likely currently priced below the MSRP of the Switch.
Unless it's basically an "I follow Pokémon and everything else is gravy" mindset, but then they haven't even announced Pokémon for Switch from what I've seen.
As a Wii U owner all this says to me is that I can put off buying a switch for at least the first 12-24 months, as long as Nintendo doesn't stab me in the back and cancel Zelda for Wii U.
I mean, what is the big lure of the Switch over the Wii U when it first came out other than being new? Unprotected 7" screen plus controller attachments and ~3 hr battery life doesn't scream 3DS market alternative to me. Is the system going to be equal or better than a PS4 for multi platform games? Doesn't sound like it.
It just sounds like newness creating interest that then uses Wii U ports as a reason to be excited in the software. You can play most of these titles now for hardware likely currently priced below the MSRP of the Switch.
Unless it's basically an "I follow Pokémon and everything else is gravy" mindset, but then they haven't even announced Pokémon for Switch from what I've seen.
As a Wii U owner all this says to me is that I can put off buying a switch for at least the first 12-24 months, as long as Nintendo doesn't stab me in the back and cancel Zelda for Wii U.
WordAssassin
Member
Holy shit. I didn't even know Fatal Frame 5 got a release out of Japan. I was super interested in that but uh, I guess it's no good?
Also had no idea that some of those games did poorly, for example the only real negative I remember hearing about Kirby was that it was really pretty but the fact that you're mostly forced to play it on the GamePad screen killed the visuals.
I mean to be fair the majority of that list are weird spinoffs and I was assuming you meant like big releases but still, stuff like Yoshi's Island, Kirby, Paper Mario... that's disappointing to hear. I just bought Star Fox for like $20 (knowing its poor reputation) but I think the last Nintendo game that wasn't Pokemon that I bought was Captain Toad so I guess I've been pretty out of the loop ):
Nope. I personally don't think it will be ported. I think it makes more sense to just bring a new Xenoblade game to the NS.
Logic would dictate that this means the game is a good candidate for a new release on a more popular platform lol.
We don't even know what the launch titles for Switch will be and remasters/ports in addition to new games seems pretty standard to me.
Even ignoring everything else, the Wii U being dead is a big reason for people to be more interested in this device lol. People are clearly interested in the potential of the software they see coming to Switch that nobody ever expected for the Wii U like Pokemon as you mentioned. The concept, news/rumors, and initial branding for this device also seems to be getting a better reception than the Wii U got in those areas.
Dark Cloud
Member
Out of Splatoon, Smash and Mario Kart, which do you expect to be a launch title?
I'm having a hard time deciding. I don't see all three at launch.
I'm having a hard time deciding. I don't see all three at launch.
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Deleted member 10571
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I never played Splatoon but always wanted to, so even if the only games for launch would be Zelda and Splatoon 1.5, I'd be a happy Bufbaf.
TheDinoman
Member
Out of the three, I'd say Mario Kart. It's been nearly two years since MK8 had its DLC period wrapped up, so that team most likely has had more time to add in new goodies and shit. Smash Bros. on the other hand finished its DLC period back in February of this year. Serkan Toto claimed back in January that there would be a new Smash game at launch, but it's possible plans could of changed in that regard. After all, Iwata did want Brawl to come for the Wii's launch but that obviously wasn't going to happen.
I think it's possible that Smash Switch could of been delayed to be a launch window game, as a way to give Sakurai and his team more time to add in new stuff and also give Mario Kart some space at launch as well. Similar thing with Splatoon.
Stone Ocean
Member
They are going to "support" it just like the Wii U has "support" now
Spieler Eins
Member
It's probably the worst entry in the series, which entirely cut puzzles and exploration, while strongly upping backtracking on linear corridors (while nothing happens) and redundant fanservice (including ghosts that look like models, i.e. not very scary). I'll only keep mine as a collectible, since the retail release was limited in Europe and prices already are skyrocketing.
It was assumed that they've been lacking in quality because Nintendo's busy with NX games. However, the list of less-than-stellar games they've published recently got really big and Switch right now focusing on ports isn't exactly proving the initial theory. I mean, there's also been the typical Mario Sports- and Mario Party games which were pervceived poorly as usual, but Nintendo quality control sure is lacking way beyond that recently. There needs to be quite a 180 for the full reveal of Switch games.
Portugeezer
Member
Now people definitely won't be buying a Wii U this holiday. It was on my mind, but I expect most of the good games to get ported and I'm happy about that.