SlipperyMoose
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Ahh I got it now, you're trolling. Almost took you seriously.
Eminem - Rap God ( his next single?)
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Ahh I got it now, you're trolling. Almost took you seriously.
I know them, I was being facetious. I just don't listen to them.
cobragt4001
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Yet you listen to Em, who has a style similar to those guys as far as concepts and use of metaphors. I'm not shitting on white guys but I find it funny that a lot of white guys became fans of hiphop once Em came out, and now he's a rap god, man please.
Here you go Cobra, this is for you. Em wants to apologize.
He puts things in context. You should listen to it. Racist insults suck and are incredibly hateful, but if you can't forgive then we will never move forward.
He puts things in context. You should listen to it. Racist insults suck and are incredibly hateful, but if you can't forgive then we will never move forward.
serenewarfare
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I certainly can't say this with certainty, but I think the lack of noticeable production is kind of the point of the song. People have criticized Em for years because they think he relies too heavily on overproduction while not caring about the lyrics/rapping. I think this is Em saying to everyone that, when you strip all the fancy beats/production away, he can still rap with the best of them.
SillyEskimo
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The greatest rapper of all time. He's just sick man. What an unbelievable talent.
cobragt4001
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Already heard the album friend and yes, you move on but you don't have to forgive and you should always remember. Em is in the rap game for the money because if he was in it for the art he wouldn't be releasing garbage after bag after bag and he'd put other artist on who love to keep their own style and not conform to corporate businessmen. Look at how Em did D12, Em is fake.
Just_myles
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Can Crusher said:
I agree. Beats are very very important. But, lyrical content goes a lot further for me. Ask Nas fans about this one. Find me a dope beat that's not alchemist(is it alchemist) or primo?
What's weird is I feel this way about Kanye right now. I feel he is just noise with no real vibe or real content in his works post graduation.
-MD-
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Maybe the stuff you listen to is terrible. Some good stuff out there if you know where to look.
cobragt4001
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Who runs the business though? Em's talent is not above any of the artist I have name so far in this thread yet the business tells us (the consumers) he's the best or he's a god of rap. Canibus came up with the concept of making a infinite rhyme were you basically take bars from a thousand bar song and mix them up to make a new song and he isn't a rap god? What has Em honestly given to the rap game?
cobragt4001
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He's made his spot in the industry friend. He does more producing now of day than rapping; there's more money in producing than performing.
Sorry man. I'm just not buying into the ideal that any human being that approaches any form of personal artistry, creative outlet or hell any interest for that matter, to the level that Eminem has pursued rap, has no real love or passion for it and is strictly doing it as a means to an end. This guy lives for rap and that much is evident. I'm not saying he hasn't taken some silly money, Survival being the new CoD song comes to mind. But, let's not hold him to some standard while we watch the Budweiser Platinum commercial with Kanye playing in the background just to turn around and praise everything Kanye does as some huge contribution to rap. They all do it for money, but that's only part of it and that doesn't shallow their love for the art in my opinion.
I'm not aware of any fallout Em has had with D12, but I've listened to a lot of D12 and there are lots of lines of gratitude pointed Em's way from the members.
lol dont bring Canibitch into this
i like him but lol
So Em is a racist and its a slap to black people because he makes money with rap?
Also eminem is probably one of the few maintstream rapper whose songs are not about ice and bitches
xBladeM6x
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If you're thinking about 90's rap, then you're on crack. Go listen to a lot of the most popular 90's rap. It's even more misogynistic, violent and homophobic than anything made today.
cobragt4001
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Not because he makes money, but to call himself a god or the best in an art form created by blacks is straight blasphemous considering he did that racist song.
Nah, he is clearly an attention whore.
fuck, i hope they don't
having some all time greats switch up their style to multi syllable battle rap esque would make as much sense as em trying to do what they do
he's top 10 for a lotta people but you really should come up for air once in a while
what the hell am I reading
I have to listen to this a few more times, but this is the first track that had verses I liked from Em in many, many years. His best verses in the last decade+ to me were from Forever, Drop The World and No Love, funny enough, all three had Lil' Wayne on the tracks.
This track has its ups with sick flows and downs with some ramblings, but again, I gotta listen to it a few more times.
This track has its ups with sick flows and downs with some ramblings, but again, I gotta listen to it a few more times.
didn't Kanye recently call himself the biggest rock star in the world? it's all part of kayfabe bruh. it's like when young rappers rap about getting to/past pac/biggie status.
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Memphis Reigns
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LOL dear god GAF has the worst taste in rap music hands down. Then again what can you expect; it's not a hip hop site it's just an off topic section on a primarily videgame forum. This track is great I can't believe people are still complaining about quality songs he puts out. Has he put out some questionable material over the last few years? For sure. But this is not one of them.
This is stupid rationale. Aint nothing blasphemous about it. If he's nice, he's nice. Jay been calling himself Hov forever, and he's lazy as fuck as a rapper. It doesn't really mean shit to call yourself a God in the game, honestly. That shit is for the masses to decide. I don't even think about that "foolish pride" track anymore, though it's an ugly stain on the dude's legacy.
xBladeM6x
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My thoughts exactly.
Jest Chillin
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I don't think he's trolling at all. He's just the type of dude that forms an opinion and hangs onto it forever.
Something about the way you type just comes out.. grating. In any case, Hip Hop doesn't belong to any one race. You're really tripping hard on that right now. Also.. Infinite was released in 1996 I believe.. at that point Canibus had done what exactly? Can-I-Bus came out in 1998 and there was no Youtube or music blogs.. so how exactly did Em hear enough about Bus' Infinity theory to name his first album after it?
What did he do to D12 exactly? Signed them and worked with them, where they eventually put out two successful albums? What else did he do exactly? He also signed a number of other artists but they either hit or floundered on their own. Just like pretty much every other artist on every other label.
But if you want to talk about doing D12 dirty.. we can talk about DZK...who signed Canibus to War Lab in secret.. then paid D12 for verses so that DZK and Bus could throw those verses on an Eminem diss track they made. Now that's doing somebody dirty.
24 years ago.
cobragt4001
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My point concerning Em is more than just his vanity, it involves the industry and also the perception of the people when it comes to music. There are plenty of underground artist that put out more creative content than Em yet they don't get recognized. I'm not saying that's Em's fault but what I am talking about is the industry that dictates people's perception of things. If Em was never featured on "so called" rap mags in the past saying he's the best then most of the people on this thread, probably wouldn't consider him the best anyway. If Em didn't have the hype machine behind him paving the way for him he would be considered a good MC, not a god.
cobragt4001
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Yea, time heals everything right?
I haven't laughed so hard at a reaction in such a long time. By a long time I mean in a few hours lol
Well, I don't know about everything, but I'm sure once most people grow up, they prefer not to be judged by dumb shit they said when they were lashing out as a teenager.
cobragt4001
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You really don't know hiphop friend or at least you never followed it. Canibus' work started way before 98 and 96 when he was just a battler pretty much everyone knew. Em was a huge fan of canibus, it was only until things turned sour when canibus approached Em about him ghost writing LL's diss song toward canibus during the LL and canibus beef. After that Em had subtle shots at canibus in songs, that's how the feud started between canibus and Em.
"Eminem is nasty, man. I don't care what color he is. I don't care about none of that. Real artists respect real artists, man…I tell people to this day. If Em was black, he'd be the next Muhammad Alive, man."—RAKIM, abcdrduson, September 2010
Here's 39 more from his peers.
TacticalFox88
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Jesus @ the blatant racism.
SlipperyMoose
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cobragt4001, you're pretty ignorant. I just took a look at your post history and see you like to focus on racial topics and things of the sort so the comments you're making in this topic aren't exactly surprising. I'm not going to sit here and try and convince you that Em is one of the best, that is a matter of opinion and you clearly made up your mind a long time ago. What I am going to talk about is the endless stream of feces spewing out of your keyboard that you go along promoting.
Let us start from the first post I read of yours in this thread
Ok so we are all aware of the "Racist tapes" released that were recordings of Eminem in reference to "black girls are bad". He addressed this song in "Yellow Brick Road" which you know and the guy made a mistake. If you're still using that as an excuse to hate Em then you really are grasping at straws. Blacks over all have used way more racial terms and stereotypes degrading themselves and others in hip-hop. And that isn't even the point, the guy messed up from when he was a young kid, apologized years later and has done a lot more for the hip-hop community than since.
Right off the bat you go ahead and stereotype not only a race but a sex as well. You say that you "understand" why white boys say that he is the best and the reason you list is their skin color. Let us not pretend that there are not ignorant people out there that only like Em because he is white and only know Eminem songs when it comes to rap. But to sit there and say that every single white guy that likes Eminem only likes him because he is white. What is this, the 1990's? There have been plenty of white rappers before and after Em that have not blown up nor gained the respect that Em has (Beastie Boys, Mac Miller, Macklemore, Ritzz, Yelawolf, RA the Rugged Man, Action Bronson, Mad Rapper, etc.) While these people are all successful in their own right they are not in the same league as respect and success like Em. Also, you degrade blacks by saying it disgusts you that they would consider Eminem as one of the best. You are yet again making things a racial decision when it is not about that. It is about talent and appeal. If people like somebody for their body of work it does not matter what color they are. You know it is funny because you talk about the same point I'm making but in a slightly different situation
This is a matter of a poorly developed opinion. If you honestly feel that way then so be it. Eminem has been passionate for hip hop years before he got signed. He was battle rapping and holding his own ground, going to competitions, writing his own rhymes, etc. There are even videos on YouTube that you could go watch right now. I'm sure you will say you have seen them before and you aren't impressed, etc. but it doesn't matter the guy it legitimate. To say he is only in it for the money is more bullshit as well. The guy could have made millions upon millions of more in endorsements but rejected many through out the years and you can read about this. Look at most main stream rappers in general that do tons of promotions and rap about money and nothing about the art of rap. Em has done this too but to act like just about every other rap artist hasn't is once again, bullshit. You are singling Em out because he is white. You things about naming his first album influenced by Canibus is here say and unfounded, I have never heard that. Also, after Em got signed he went back and signed all his friends from D12 and they are all living pretty well doing their own things right now. In fact Mr. Porter is currently Em's hype man and doing well creating his own beats.
I could go on and on about how you are just spewing none sense. Like I mentioned above I'm not going to try and defend Em against you because it will be fruitless. The more and more I read your comments the more I see that YOU are the racist and YOU are the one that keeps making everything a black and white issue. The bottom line is that Eminem is a highly skilled, highly successful and highly respected artist among not only black and whites but in almost every culture. He has put more money into the black community than most rap artists and has made mistakes just like any other human being. Just leave this thread, you are doing nothing but moving it backwards.
Let us start from the first post I read of yours in this thread
Ok so we are all aware of the "Racist tapes" released that were recordings of Eminem in reference to "black girls are bad". He addressed this song in "Yellow Brick Road" which you know and the guy made a mistake. If you're still using that as an excuse to hate Em then you really are grasping at straws. Blacks over all have used way more racial terms and stereotypes degrading themselves and others in hip-hop. And that isn't even the point, the guy messed up from when he was a young kid, apologized years later and has done a lot more for the hip-hop community than since.
Right off the bat you go ahead and stereotype not only a race but a sex as well. You say that you "understand" why white boys say that he is the best and the reason you list is their skin color. Let us not pretend that there are not ignorant people out there that only like Em because he is white and only know Eminem songs when it comes to rap. But to sit there and say that every single white guy that likes Eminem only likes him because he is white. What is this, the 1990's? There have been plenty of white rappers before and after Em that have not blown up nor gained the respect that Em has (Beastie Boys, Mac Miller, Macklemore, Ritzz, Yelawolf, RA the Rugged Man, Action Bronson, Mad Rapper, etc.) While these people are all successful in their own right they are not in the same league as respect and success like Em. Also, you degrade blacks by saying it disgusts you that they would consider Eminem as one of the best. You are yet again making things a racial decision when it is not about that. It is about talent and appeal. If people like somebody for their body of work it does not matter what color they are. You know it is funny because you talk about the same point I'm making but in a slightly different situation
This is a matter of a poorly developed opinion. If you honestly feel that way then so be it. Eminem has been passionate for hip hop years before he got signed. He was battle rapping and holding his own ground, going to competitions, writing his own rhymes, etc. There are even videos on YouTube that you could go watch right now. I'm sure you will say you have seen them before and you aren't impressed, etc. but it doesn't matter the guy it legitimate. To say he is only in it for the money is more bullshit as well. The guy could have made millions upon millions of more in endorsements but rejected many through out the years and you can read about this. Look at most main stream rappers in general that do tons of promotions and rap about money and nothing about the art of rap. Em has done this too but to act like just about every other rap artist hasn't is once again, bullshit. You are singling Em out because he is white. You things about naming his first album influenced by Canibus is here say and unfounded, I have never heard that. Also, after Em got signed he went back and signed all his friends from D12 and they are all living pretty well doing their own things right now. In fact Mr. Porter is currently Em's hype man and doing well creating his own beats.
I could go on and on about how you are just spewing none sense. Like I mentioned above I'm not going to try and defend Em against you because it will be fruitless. The more and more I read your comments the more I see that YOU are the racist and YOU are the one that keeps making everything a black and white issue. The bottom line is that Eminem is a highly skilled, highly successful and highly respected artist among not only black and whites but in almost every culture. He has put more money into the black community than most rap artists and has made mistakes just like any other human being. Just leave this thread, you are doing nothing but moving it backwards.
Blackace
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He was at one point... but really... he isn't anymore
cobragt4001
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not really, the guy is good no doubt. But most of those quotes are from interviews that question the artists about their opinion of Em. In the position those guys are in, why would they talk ill about Em in a interview? I mean you can find quotes from anyone praising another rapper for their skill so why should those 39 quotes hurt me?
lol rappers never take shots at other rappers in interviews.
Jest Chillin
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When did Canibus work start? And what battles was he in? There was talk about him freestyling with Wu Tang.. but I never heard a tape of him doing any battles or anything like that before then. Did he do some radio appearances that I missed? Keep in mind that up and coming dudes material rarely reached further than the local cities and states they were from unless they had a deal of some kind. Sure you'd hear ABOUT people but unless they were getting play on some shit like The Wake Up Show which focused on underground talent and was a nationally syndicated show or you knew somebody that would get tapes from someone out of state.. you weren't going to hear about them. Not unless they were clicked up with someone signed and getting features.
cobragt4001
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But none of the rappers quoted have had issues with Em though.
Like, come on, man. Stop playing me.
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