Eminem - Rap God ( his next single?)

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I'm guessing if you were to write down the whole thing and draw the rhyme scheme you'd end up with something looking like DNA patterns or something lol.

Also while the beat could have sounded nicer, I think for this particular kind of song you'd want to avoid the beat being catchy to the extent that it would distract from the lyrics.

nacire said:
I'm not aware of any fallout Em has had with D12, but I've listened to a lot of D12 and there are lots of lines of gratitude pointed Em's way from the members.
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Because there isn't any people actually know of. Whatever beef that may have existed at some point among D12 members wasn't made public at the time and has been resolved since then.
 
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cobragt4001 said:
But none of the rappers quoted have had issues with Em though.
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So you're dismissing all of those rappers (Rakim, Tech, Scarface, Jay...) because they don't fit your opinion? Were those guys also paid off by the hype machine?
 
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reilo said:
So you're dismissing all of those rappers (Rakim, Tech, Scarface, Jay...) because they don't fit your opinion? Were those guys also paid off by the hype machine?
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I'm not dismissing them. My point is pretty much every rapper has quotes praising another rapper for their work. I'm pretty sure we could find just as many quotes or more praising Jay Z or Nas so those quotes mean nothing to my point.


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And yes there was a hype machine behind Em. Who runs the music industry and the so called publications that suggest Em is the god of rap or the king? It's not hard to advertise anything to people and alter their perception; I mean we came from hiphop that made you aware to garbage now that puts you to sleep, how that happen? And I don't want to hear crap sells because while Wu Tang had a lot of positive creative music and they sold millions.
 
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He's still there technically, maybe as good as ever, but in Berzerk his voice really got on my nerves and that's largely still true here. It's like too affected or theatrical or something. This wasn't bad though. Dude still kills it technically without a doubt.
 
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Jest Chillin said:
When did Canibus work start? And what battles was he in? There was talk about him freestyling with Wu Tang.. but I never heard a tape of him doing any battles or anything like that before then. Did he do some radio appearances that I missed? Keep in mind that up and coming dudes material rarely reached further than the local cities and states they were from unless they had a deal of some kind. Sure you'd hear ABOUT people but unless they were getting play on some shit like The Wake Up Show which focused on underground talent and was a nationally syndicated show or you knew somebody that would get tapes from someone out of state.. you weren't going to hear about them. Not unless they were clicked up with someone signed and getting features.
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canibus had done work with the lost boys before or during 95 and also making radio appearances. Infinity was always a thing you would hear in canibus' songs and it's ironic Em's first album was called Infinite. During 97-98 Em use to come to canibus' recording studio, canibus mentions it in Air Strike I believe.
 
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cobragt4001 said:
Rap god? You telling me the asshole who used racial lyrics to shit on blacks is a god of the music genre blacks created? I take great offense to this thread especially when compared to people like rakim and canibus Em isn't that great.
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I had to log in when I saw this. Canibus??? You lost me there. Now Rakim s a true lyricist, and Eminem is a real lyricist... But Canibus??? Lol

Why does race have to be in this at all? Jummy Hendrix is one of the rock and roll gods?.. But you don't see many people screaming cuz he is black.. It's all about talent not skin color
 
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Felipeezus said:
:lol

Yet he just happens to be the most talented in the business by accident.
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What is this? oO He's good, maybe even top tier, but calling a semi has-been who released 2 good albums and only 1 great album the most talented in the business is just moronic.
Oo
 
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cobragt4001

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MrPressStart said:
I had to log in when I saw this. Canibus??? You lost me there. Now Rakim s a true lyricist, and Eminem is a real lyricist... But Canibus??? Lol

Why does race have to be in this at all? Jummy Hendrix is one of the rock and roll gods?.. But you don't see many people screaming cuz he is black.. It's all about talent not skin color
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Coincidentally blacks started what you call rock and roll LMAO

Race has all to do with it especially since he made it about race in the past. I'm seen as a racist in this thread because I choose not to forget what Em said in this past work. I think most of you guys really didn't listen to Em's racist tape. And people like him don't change, regardless of age so please miss me with that naive talk.


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If you're a fan of lyricism you know canibus, obviously you hate canibus for your own reason and that's cool.
 
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cobragt4001 said:
Yet you listen to Em, who has a style similar to those guys as far as concepts and use of metaphors. I'm not shitting on white guys but I find it funny that a lot of white guys became fans of hiphop once Em came out, and now he's a rap god, man please.
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I became a ep fan Asa kid. Listening to run DMC, Slick Rick. Dana Dane, ll cool j, beastie boys... And yes Rakim. And acing said that Eminem s top 10 of all time.
 
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cobragt4001 said:
canibus had done work with the lost boys before or during 95 and also making radio appearances. Infinity was always a thing you would hear in canibus' songs and it's ironic Em's first album was called Infinite. During 97-98 Em use to come to canibus' recording studio, canibus mentions it in Air Strike I believe.
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If you're talking about Beast from the East, that was 97. The Lost Boyz first album didn't have any Canibus features. If he was hanging with those dudes before Peace, Love and Nappiness came out, I never heard of it. He wasn't on the Wake Up Show that I can remember until the mid-late 90's. I have no clue what studios Em would've been going to but that doesn't really mean much anyways.
 
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MrPressStart said:
I had to log in when I saw this. Canibus??? You lost me there. Now Rakim s a true lyricist, and Eminem is a real lyricist... But Canibus??? Lol

Why does race have to be in this at all? Jummy Hendrix is one of the rock and roll gods?.. But you don't see many people screaming cuz he is black.. It's all about talent not skin color
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You must not be familiar with canibus' work or you're an idiot.
 
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Erv

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cobragt4001 said:
canibus had done work with the lost boys before or during 95 and also making radio appearances. Infinity was always a thing you would hear in canibus' songs and it's ironic Em's first album was called Infinite. During 97-98 Em use to come to canibus' recording studio, canibus mentions it in Air Strike I believe.
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I'm very familiar with canibus' history, but if you mean Eminem and bis hung out together at the studio.that's not true
 
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Z.. said:
What is this? oO He's good, maybe even top tier, but calling a semi has-been who released 2 good albums and only 1 great album the most talented in the business is just moronic.
Oo
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Are we still talking about Em, or did this just turn into a Kanye thread?
 
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cobragt4001

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What I'm gonna type isn't for the purpose of taking anything away from Em but there needs to be an understanding here, more or less a cultural understanding.

Em is a great MC no doubt and it's true that everyone has their opinion. Some people actually think Lil Wayne is a good rapper so I understand this is all opinionated. What I have noticed growing up is when white guys do something equal what to what a black guy does, like rap or basketball, that white guy will get far more praise than needed for doing the exact same thing as the black guy. Since people view things like rap or certain sports as a "black" thing, it's no surprise that people over react to someone who's non-black accomplishing the same level of skill as another black person. See Em has the skill equal to some of the top tier rappers yet people over react to his skill and say he's the best when he isn't close. If Em never made those racist tapes, and racist never change, then I don't think I would have such a strong stance on the guy. But it's my awareness that helps me see past what most can't.
 
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Erv said:
I'm very familiar with canibus' history, but if you mean Eminem and bis hung out together at the studio.that's not true
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Never said they hung out be according to canibus Em visited his studio. Listen to Air Strike, I'm sure he mentions it. A lot of artist were influenced by canibus then, hell listen to Lamar on his control verse; Lamar sounds like a watered down canibus with the rash voice.
 
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cobragt4001 said:
What I'm gonna type isn't for the purpose of taking anything away from Em but there needs to be an understanding here, more or less a cultural understanding.

Em is a great MC no doubt and it's true that everyone has their opinion. Some people actually think Lil Wayne is a good rapper so I understand this is all opinionated. What I have noticed growing up is when white guys do something equal what to what a black guy does, like rap or basketball, that white guy will get far more praise than needed for doing the exact same thing as the black guy. Since people view things like rap or certain sports as a "black" thing, it's no surprise that people over react to someone who's non-black accomplishing the same level of skill as another black person. See Em has the skill equal to some of the top tier rappers yet people over react to his skill and say he's the best when he isn't close. If Em never made those racist tapes, and racist never change, then I don't think I would have such a strong stance on the guy. But it's my awareness that helps me see past what most can't.
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Do you hate white people because some of us enslaved some of your people in the past?

Who knows .. maybe I'm related to a slave owner.

I must be racist.

Eminem came (and probably still gets a lot of ideas) from intense hatred and anger. Just because he said some racist shit to make some sort of impact / "oh damn did that white boy really say that" doesn't mean he IS a racist. I'm sure a lot of blacks treated him like SHIT when he was trying to make it and he lashed out however he could. Maybe you can have a 1 on 1 talk with him someday on his true racial feelings instead of making all these assumptions based on shit he made to try make a name for himself (when he was literally nothing) years ago.

One tape when he was a teenager ... lol damn.

Eminem says himself .....
''The tape they played today was something I made out of anger, stupidity and frustration when I was a teenager,'' Eminem said. ''I'd just broken up with my girlfriend, who was African-American, and I reacted like the angry, stupid kid I was. I hope people will take it for the foolishness that it was, not for what somebody is trying to make it into today.''

Let it go man.
 
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cobragt4001

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Macattk15 said:
Do you hate white people because some of us enslaved some of your people in the past?

Who knows .. maybe I'm related to a slave owner.

I must be racist.

Eminem came (and probably still gets a lot of ideas) from intense hatred and anger. Just because he said some racist shit to make some sort of impact / "oh damn did that white boy really say that" doesn't mean he IS a racist. I'm sure a lot of blacks treated him like SHIT when he was trying to make it and he lashed out however he could. Maybe you can have a 1 on 1 talk with him someday on his true racial feelings instead of making all these assumptions based on shit he made to try make a name for himself (when he was literally nothing) years ago.

Eminem says himself .....
''The tape they played today was something I made out of anger, stupidity and frustration when I was a teenager,'' Eminem said. ''I'd just broken up with my girlfriend, who was African-American, and I reacted like the angry, stupid kid I was. I hope people will take it for the foolishness that it was, not for what somebody is trying to make it into today.''

Let it go man.
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What does slavery have to do with my post? I don't hate anyone. But I do hate misconceptions.
 
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cobragt4001 said:
What does slavery have to do with my post? I don't hate anyone. But I do hate misconceptions.
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I think you have a misconception on Eminem.

I wouldn't damn someone for all eternity for shit they said out of anger / hate when they were a teenager.

Has he said any racist shit since this one Foolish Pride song he did?
 
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Saw Eminem live once, it was like 88% backing track. He puts on a good show, but not much of a concert.

Whereas Jay-z was maybe the single best concert i have ever been to
 
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cobragt4001

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Macattk15 said:
I think you have a misconception on Eminem.

I wouldn't damn someone for all eternity for shit they said out of anger / hate when they were a teenager.

Has he said any racist shit since this one Foolish Pride song he did?
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Dude he said nigga in that pride song, that's the deal breaker. If he was honest to the art then you would think he'd understand the implications of that word towards blacks yet he still used it. I don't care about that bs PR statement he made because people tend to show their true selves in moments of anger. If you care for the art known as rap, yet you don't understand the struggle blacks went through with N word then there's a problem. I love Vinnie Paz and I see him as a brother like anyone that looks like me because in his music he talks about black history and refers to blacks as the Moors and I respect that he understand black culture outside of what's put on TV for everyone's entertainment. Em hasn't given shit to the originators of the art and it sickens me that only canibus calls him out on that while others don't say shit because they don't want compromise their position.
 
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cobragt4001 said:
What I'm gonna type isn't for the purpose of taking anything away from Em but there needs to be an understanding here, more or less a cultural understanding.

Em is a great MC no doubt and it's true that everyone has their opinion. Some people actually think Lil Wayne is a good rapper so I understand this is all opinionated. What I have noticed growing up is when white guys do something equal what to what a black guy does, like rap or basketball, that white guy will get far more praise than needed for doing the exact same thing as the black guy. Since people view things like rap or certain sports as a "black" thing, it's no surprise that people over react to someone who's non-black accomplishing the same level of skill as another black person. See Em has the skill equal to some of the top tier rappers yet people over react to his skill and say he's the best when he isn't close. If Em never made those racist tapes, and racist never change, then I don't think I would have such a strong stance on the guy. But it's my awareness that helps me see past what most can't.
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Funny, because something prevents you from seeing past what most can.
 
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cobragt4001 said:
Dude he said nigga in that pride song, that's the deal breaker. If he was honest to the art then you would think he'd understand the implications of that word towards blacks yet he still used it. I don't care about that bs PR statement he made because people tend to show their true selves in moments of anger. If you care for the art known as rap, yet you don't understand the struggle blacks went through with N word then there's a problem. I love Vinnie Paz and I see him as a brother like anyone that looks like me because in his music he talks about black history and refers to blacks as the Moors and I respect that he understand black culture outside of what's put on TV for everyone's entertainment. Em hasn't given shit to the originators of the art and it sickens me that only canibus calls him out on that while others don't say shit because they don't want compromise their position.
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My god. Forget it. Forget you. Jesus.

One white guy calls someone a nigger 20 years ago and it's game over.

30000000000 rappers say nigger daily and its kosher. Derogatory term should be derogatory no matter who says it.
 
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I understand what he is saying, but to me Em is in the top 5. Rakim is as well, biggie, nas,
KRS one. That is my top 5. I like Kyane jay z (old).. But he bites a lot of his rhymes.
 
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Macattk15 said:
My god. Forget it. Forget you. Jesus.

One white guy calls someone a nigger 20 years ago and it's game over.

30000000000 rappers say nigger daily and its kosher. Derogatory term should be derogatory no matter who says it.
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What's the context in which Eminem said it and the context that other rappers say it?
 
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cobragt4001 said:
Dude he said nigga in that pride song, that's the deal breaker. If he was honest to the art then you would think he'd understand the implications of that word towards blacks yet he still used it. I don't care about that bs PR statement he made because people tend to show their true selves in moments of anger. If you care for the art known as rap, yet you don't understand the struggle blacks went through with N word then there's a problem. I love Vinnie Paz and I see him as a brother like anyone that looks like me because in his music he talks about black history and refers to blacks as the Moors and I respect that he understand black culture outside of what's put on TV for everyone's entertainment. Em hasn't given shit to the originators of the art and it sickens me that only canibus calls him out on that while others don't say shit because they don't want compromise their position.
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For all intents and purposes, Eminem IS black.

He could say nigga in every new song he'll come out with and the rap community would not bat an eye. He's just taken that seriously.

If any white person should have the privilege of saying that word, it's Em.
 
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cobragt4001

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Macattk15 said:
My god. Forget it. Forget you. Jesus.

One white guy calls someone a nigger 20 years ago and it's game over.

30000000000 rappers say nigger daily and its kosher. Derogatory term should be derogatory no matter who says it.
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Get the hell out of here with that shit. Blacks turned lemons (N word) to lemonade (term of endearment) now everyone wants to use it while knowing jack shit about blacks other than what the TV shows so don't fucking tell me about what blacks say.
 
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cobragt4001 said:
Dude he said nigga in that pride song, that's the deal breaker. If he was honest to the art then you would think he'd understand the implications of that word towards blacks yet he still used it. I don't care about that bs PR statement he made because people tend to show their true selves in moments of anger. If you care for the art known as rap, yet you don't understand the struggle blacks went through with N word then there's a problem. I love Vinnie Paz and I see him as a brother like anyone that looks like me because in his music he talks about black history and refers to blacks as the Moors and I respect that he understand black culture outside of what's put on TV for everyone's entertainment. Em hasn't given shit to the originators of the art and it sickens me that only canibus calls him out on that while others don't say shit because they don't want compromise their position.
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lol I fucking knew this was coming.
 
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cobragt4001 said:
Get the hell out of here with that shit. Blacks turned lemons (N word) to lemonade (term of endearment) now everyone wants to use it while knowing jack shit about blacks other than what the TV shows so don't fucking tell me about what blacks say.
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You have your mind made up about Eminem and are hanging on to whatever you can to hate him. He fucking released that tape in 1988 he says ... fuck what Benzino says. Apologized and said he was being a stupid ignorant teenager ... You know how many ignorant teenagers I see daily? A fucking ton.

TWENTY FIVE YEARS AGO.

You're telling me someone can't change in 25 years?

Get the fuck outta here.
 
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Aristion said:
For all intents and purposes, Eminem IS black.

He could say nigga in every new song he'll come out with and the rap community would not bat an eye. He's just taken that seriously.

If any white person should have the privilege of saying that word, it's Em.
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You really think people wouldn't find it weird and maybe even outrageous if he started saying it? Maybe they wouldn't if he used it from the beginning of his career.
 
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cobragt4001 said:
foolish pride isn't the only racist song by Em
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swE-f1xjITM
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Your pants all in a bunch over something some 16 year old little shit said.

Get over it. Kids say dumb shit.

He's fucking 40 now and has done more for "the game" and underprivileged people than a lot of other rap gods.

I'm done responding to you. You're as ignorant as you claim Eminem to be.

cobragt4001 said:
I would say people in the US are maybe the most mixed of any country in the world. But white Americans don't have a particular look compared to their European cousins at all. Usually Americans will be fatter but other than that, you couldn't tell a German from a white guy from Colorado. I date a girl whose mom was French and day was American Italian and she looked like a normal white chick.
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You sound racist.
 
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cobragt4001

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Macattk15 said:
Your pants all in a bunch over something some 16 year old little shit said.

Get over it. Kids say dumb shit.

He's fucking 40 now and has done more for "the game" and underprivileged people than a lot of other rap gods.

I'm done responding to you. You're as ignorant as you claim Eminem to be.
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LMAO, dude used the word and it don't matter how long ago it was. If you can't see dude for what he really is then that's on you.

Hey Lil Wayne has done charity as well while damaging the minds of the youth so who cares what Em has done maybe one time.


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Wow you went through the task of looking at older post by me, damn. And how was that comment I made in a thread that has nothing to do with this thread racist?
 
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Aristion said:
For all intents and purposes, Eminem IS black.

He could say nigga in every new song he'll come out with and the rap community would not bat an eye. He's just taken that seriously.

If any white person should have the privilege of saying that word, it's Em.
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No at this entire post. Just no.
 
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Grover Cleveland

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What in the hell has happened to this thread?

Aristion said:
For all intents and purposes, Eminem IS black.

He could say nigga in every new song he'll come out with and the rap community would not bat an eye. He's just taken that seriously.

If any white person should have the privilege of saying that word, it's Em.
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