it's good. more of the same from him tbh. i feel like that dude could write a song in his sleep. i think the title track is pretty good
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Emo Music |OT| Non-Conforming as Can Be
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it's good. more of the same from him tbh. i feel like that dude could write a song in his sleep. i think the title track is pretty good
rofl
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Sorry that I thought you guys meant actual emo music...that actually has a bite and some metallic elements.
How was I to know you consider "emo music" to be acoustic ballads?
MultiJhonny
Banned
Sure some songs use acoustic instruments but they are far from ballads and far from using acoustic instruments consistently.
Emocore began in the mid-80's as an emotionally charged and politically progressive form of hardcore punk, centered in Washington, DC, as a response to the machismo of the larger hardcore scene. It's short for emotive hardcore. These bands are often tagged "harDCore" or "Revolution Summer" bands, and include artists such as Rites of Spring, Embrace, and Fuel. Later on, the "emocore" label was attached to bands such as Lifetime, Hot Water Music, and Jawbreaker.
As time went on, Emo bands started to experiment more with loud/soft dynamics, intricate melodies, heavy build-ups, and twinkly guitar work. At the core of these bands lied a commitment to the DIY ethic and an embrace of sincerity. This is the most pure distillation of "emo," although far from the only iteration. A few of these bands would be Moss Icon, Native Nod, Navio Forge, Indian Summer, and Still Life. There was also a small subset of bands, mostly in San Diego and later Berkeley, who made the sound more frenzied and fractured, typified by artists who frequented the Che Cafe and Gilman Street, such as Heroin, Antioch Arrow, Portraits of Past, Clikitat Ikatowi, and John Henry West.
Midwest Emo is a style of indie rock that takes from the song structure (and occasionally vocal style) of the previous emo bands, but imbues it with pop sensibilities and a more gentle touch. The artists are sometimes referred to as "post-emo indie rock," "indiemo," or "twinkledaddies" because of the twinkly sound of the guitars. Cap'n Jazz is usually cited as the original midwest emo band. Other notables include Sunny Day Real Estate, American Football, Pedro the Lion, and Mineral.
Screamo is an aggressive offshoot of Emo characterized by yelled or screamed vocals and dissonant, twinkly guitar work. Screamo bands usually shy away from conventional song structures and often play around with loud/soft dynamics. Because screamo is often used as a catch all term for all genres with unclean vocals, many screamo fans often refer to true screamo as skramz. Saetia, William Bonney, L'Antietam, I Have Dreams, and the Kidcrash are a few examples of screamo bands. There are also screamo bands that experiment with post-rock and progressive rock tendencies, such as Gospel, Circle Takes the Square, and City of Caterpillar.
Emoviolence, a portmanteau of emo and powerviolence, is a fusion genre of screamo/emo with powerviolence. Orchid, pageninetynine, In/Humanity, Palatka, and Usurp Synapse are a few notable examples.
Emo Pop sprouted from the crossover of pop-punk and Midwest emo bands, but also includes pop-punk bands with a heavy emocore influence. Artists range from the Get-Up Kids and the Promise Ring, to Taking Back Sunday and Brand New, to even the early work of Fall Out Boy.
Recently, there has been a renewed interest in emo, especially midwest emo. These bands are heavily influenced by Cap'n Jazz and often have a strong bent towards math rock and post-rock in their song structure and guitar work. A few examples of these emo revival bands are Street Smart Cyclist, Snowing, Algernon Cadwallader, The World Is A Beautiful Place & I Am No Longer Afraid to Die, and Glocca Morra.
There is even an emo pop revival scene centered around indie rock bands with mildly intricate guitar work and deeply personal, confessional lyrics. These bands include Modern Baseball, Sorority Noise, and the Front Bottoms.
The following are examples bands are NOT EMO but are very influential or popular within the scene: The Cure, the Smiths, Fugazi, Slint, Nation of Ulysses, Drive Like Jehu, Modest Mouse, Death Cab for Cutie, and Pinegrove.
Emocore began in the mid-80's as an emotionally charged and politically progressive form of hardcore punk, centered in Washington, DC, as a response to the machismo of the larger hardcore scene. It's short for emotive hardcore. These bands are often tagged "harDCore" or "Revolution Summer" bands, and include artists such as Rites of Spring, Embrace, and Fuel. Later on, the "emocore" label was attached to bands such as Lifetime, Hot Water Music, and Jawbreaker.
As time went on, Emo bands started to experiment more with loud/soft dynamics, intricate melodies, heavy build-ups, and twinkly guitar work. At the core of these bands lied a commitment to the DIY ethic and an embrace of sincerity. This is the most pure distillation of "emo," although far from the only iteration. A few of these bands would be Moss Icon, Native Nod, Navio Forge, Indian Summer, and Still Life. There was also a small subset of bands, mostly in San Diego and later Berkeley, who made the sound more frenzied and fractured, typified by artists who frequented the Che Cafe and Gilman Street, such as Heroin, Antioch Arrow, Portraits of Past, Clikitat Ikatowi, and John Henry West.
Midwest Emo is a style of indie rock that takes from the song structure (and occasionally vocal style) of the previous emo bands, but imbues it with pop sensibilities and a more gentle touch. The artists are sometimes referred to as "post-emo indie rock," "indiemo," or "twinkledaddies" because of the twinkly sound of the guitars. Cap'n Jazz is usually cited as the original midwest emo band. Other notables include Sunny Day Real Estate, American Football, Pedro the Lion, and Mineral.
Screamo is an aggressive offshoot of Emo characterized by yelled or screamed vocals and dissonant, twinkly guitar work. Screamo bands usually shy away from conventional song structures and often play around with loud/soft dynamics. Because screamo is often used as a catch all term for all genres with unclean vocals, many screamo fans often refer to true screamo as skramz. Saetia, William Bonney, L'Antietam, I Have Dreams, and the Kidcrash are a few examples of screamo bands. There are also screamo bands that experiment with post-rock and progressive rock tendencies, such as Gospel, Circle Takes the Square, and City of Caterpillar.
Emoviolence, a portmanteau of emo and powerviolence, is a fusion genre of screamo/emo with powerviolence. Orchid, pageninetynine, In/Humanity, Palatka, and Usurp Synapse are a few notable examples.
Emo Pop sprouted from the crossover of pop-punk and Midwest emo bands, but also includes pop-punk bands with a heavy emocore influence. Artists range from the Get-Up Kids and the Promise Ring, to Taking Back Sunday and Brand New, to even the early work of Fall Out Boy.
Recently, there has been a renewed interest in emo, especially midwest emo. These bands are heavily influenced by Cap'n Jazz and often have a strong bent towards math rock and post-rock in their song structure and guitar work. A few examples of these emo revival bands are Street Smart Cyclist, Snowing, Algernon Cadwallader, The World Is A Beautiful Place & I Am No Longer Afraid to Die, and Glocca Morra.
There is even an emo pop revival scene centered around indie rock bands with mildly intricate guitar work and deeply personal, confessional lyrics. These bands include Modern Baseball, Sorority Noise, and the Front Bottoms.
The following are examples bands are NOT EMO but are very influential or popular within the scene: The Cure, the Smiths, Fugazi, Slint, Nation of Ulysses, Drive Like Jehu, Modest Mouse, Death Cab for Cutie, and Pinegrove.
Midwest emo and pop emo is where is at! Anything else should be banned from this thread, banned I say!
Also, I'm saying Pinegrove is emo since they have been touring with emo bands. Emo by proxy is a thing I'm making up and no one can tell me I'm wrong.
I also haven't listened to the new American Football. I'm a poser.
Also, I'm saying Pinegrove is emo since they have been touring with emo bands. Emo by proxy is a thing I'm making up and no one can tell me I'm wrong.
I also haven't listened to the new American Football. I'm a poser.
As a side note, this thread is pretty liberal when it comes to what is discussed and we frequently mention stuff that is more punk or alternative than just emo but it's like if you like emo you are bound to like that stuff.
That is to say, this is actually a Jeff Rosenstock appreciation thread in disguise.
That is to say, this is actually a Jeff Rosenstock appreciation thread in disguise.
ElephantShell
Banned
Yeah there's a lot of artists who I don't consider strictly Emo but who are part of the scene by proxy sort of. Like PUP.
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
skramz stays in the family
also i wasn't laughing at that dude, i was laughing mostly at the hilariously varied perception of emo
MultiJhonny
Banned
skramz stays in the family
also i wasn't laughing at that dude, i was laughing mostly at the hilariously varied perception of emo
you got too sassy
i was only trying to *defend emo* but apparently i don't know what real emo is
also how the fuck did this fly under my radar. i have a feeling someone in this thread mentioned it and i fucked up. this rips
https://dogknightsproductions.bandcamp.com/album/dk093-suis-la-lune-shirokuma-12-lp
i haven't been to a show at gilman for a while and it's bumming me out. it really blows that they closed the pyramid brewery across the street
oh btw super unison and dangers at 1234 was great. dangers man...they are so good
thelongestj
Member
It was me!
Y'all should pay attention to the screamo scene in Sweden. There's a ton of great bands. For starters check out the list of bands playing Miss the Stars in Berlin next year.
Yeah I was gonna also use PUP as an example of something more punky we often praise in here that might not necessarily be emo.
I didn't know I was into emo until I found this thread, I'd been listening to a bunch of bands and then saw an emo thread and was curious as to what that meant, hell back in my teen years emo to us meant black hair, eyeliner, songs about cutting yourself and looking sad a lot. Wasn't ever into that stuff myself, I was always a pop-punk kinda guy. I came in here only to find a thread of people discussing bands I like. Now it's like my main source of new artists.
Though I still lean more to the punky/heavier stuff myself but it keeps me coming back.
You are okay Kawl.
skramz stays in the family
also i wasn't laughing at that dude, i was laughing mostly at the hilariously varied perception of emo
You kids and your damn noise!
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
Yeah I've just started considering this the catch-all modern punk thread, since the two tend to overlap a lot
you're welcome
also ive been waiting for someone to wander in here and say something like that is emo ughhhh misinformation is so good
this post
mmmmhhhhhh yesss
So, I've been thinking of taking a trip to Paris to catch Wonder Years + Tiny Moving Parts but The Hotelier just announced that they are going to Berlin the same time. I have friends in both places so I could in theory go to one or the other (assuming I have money).
Ugh, decisions! The double bill might be better although I never visited Berlin so there's that.
EDIT: also, JEW were on Kimmell. Cool performance and they are keeping emo on TV I guess.
Ugh, decisions! The double bill might be better although I never visited Berlin so there's that.
EDIT: also, JEW were on Kimmell. Cool performance and they are keeping emo on TV I guess.
TheLetdown
Member
I'll just have to look around for Latterman's #1 superfan during their set and I'll find you. Simple.
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So, while we're discussing what is and isn't emo, how do you feel about Jets to Brazil?
Jawbreaker is a pretty easy one to call, particularly when drawing a line from Rites of Spring to the late 90s... but JTB is harder to pin down with the tag, I feel. But indie rock seems like a misnomer.
Me too me too! (ya lucky jerks)
thisiswhatever
Neo Member
Hey I'm not sure if this is the place for this, but my band recently put out a full-length album. It's emo-influenced, but more akin to screamo/post hardcore. Check it out if you'd like!
https://cacciato.bandcamp.com/album/retreat
https://cacciato.bandcamp.com/album/retreat
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
Lol
There are enough photos of me on here for you to recognise me with
I will be incredibly awkward though just a warning
Like this one of Microwave?
Carrying on my quest to finally actually listen to some more bands you lot are always bangin' on about I've been checking out Joyce Manor's latest album, some great stuff.
Tempted by Hotelier, means another trip to Leeds for a gig in January but at least this one's on a Friday.
I don't have a gig currently until Wonder Years/PUP/TMP at the end of January, tempted by Front Bottoms next month up here but I'm still a bit hit and miss on them... I should probably finally go see Modern Baseball in January too...
Tempted by Hotelier, means another trip to Leeds for a gig in January but at least this one's on a Friday.
I don't have a gig currently until Wonder Years/PUP/TMP at the end of January, tempted by Front Bottoms next month up here but I'm still a bit hit and miss on them... I should probably finally go see Modern Baseball in January too...
TheLetdown
Member
Sucks that I'll have to miss Microwave. Were they good?
Also, I'm just going to beat the dead Fest horse because I'm hyped and at least some people are excited about it, so...
Madball announced a short Florida tour. They're playing Jacksonville on the 27th and Orlando on the 29th... and there's a little city situated between those two... and there's a MYSTERY BAND that will be following Toys That Kill as the headliner on the 28th...
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Okay, the Ergs release a sequel to their B-sides album. Hindsight is 20/20 Vol 2: https://theergs.bandcamp.com/album/hindsight-is-20-20-my-friend-vol-2-ok-enough-reminiscing
I swear I'm an emo fan. You guys are just too quick on the hot picks so I get stuck posting punk rock scraps that I think you'll like. I repent and will say 5 Hail Mary's while listening to Endserenading.
Also, I'm just going to beat the dead Fest horse because I'm hyped and at least some people are excited about it, so...
Madball announced a short Florida tour. They're playing Jacksonville on the 27th and Orlando on the 29th... and there's a little city situated between those two... and there's a MYSTERY BAND that will be following Toys That Kill as the headliner on the 28th...
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Okay, the Ergs release a sequel to their B-sides album. Hindsight is 20/20 Vol 2: https://theergs.bandcamp.com/album/hindsight-is-20-20-my-friend-vol-2-ok-enough-reminiscing
I swear I'm an emo fan. You guys are just too quick on the hot picks so I get stuck posting punk rock scraps that I think you'll like. I repent and will say 5 Hail Mary's while listening to Endserenading.
no no no keep doing this because otherwise i would have never had any idea.
confession: i like punk shit more than i like emo shit
TheLetdown
Member
Trying to act like you didn't preorder the vinyl of their newest one called (no joke) "The Serenity of Suffering" with this totally bitching cover art:
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
Yeah they were pretty good, no Iron Chic though
That said
Iron Chic are also playing Loosey's
Check the Fest Facebook page
same lol
it's 2016 and korn are still making music
what a time to be alive
re: the album cover tho
TheLetdown
Member
Ahh. A few early shows that I will definitely not be going to because of Latterman. Late Iron Chic sounds nuts, considering they're playing at like 1PM the next day.
How bad have the Pre-Fest lines been? I have no idea what to expect in terms of how early I need to camp out for these major ones.
If I miss D4
Oh, forgot to hype hype hype... I'm going to see Hard Girls / Rosenstock tonight!
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
Queues have been fine. D4 are playing Bo Diddley right? That shouldn't be a problem. Iron Chic at Loosey's you'll want to be at very early though.Ahh. A few early shows that I will definitely not be going to because of Latterman. Late Iron Chic sounds nuts, considering they're playing at like 1PM the next day.
How bad have the Pre-Fest lines been? I have no idea what to expect in terms of how early I need to camp out for these major ones.
If I miss D4
Oh, forgot to hype hype hype... I'm going to see Hard Girls / Rosenstock tonight!
this sounds real good, have fun
also i realized that ron english painted that korn cover, which explains why it's pretty skillfully done yet so trashy hahaha
need to share this
darn dude. your posts are real good and i need to pay attention
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
You mean like this?
Also lmao Pennywise are playing here tonight entirely separately, which is basically the lamest thing for a punk band while Fest is happening
MultiJhonny
Banned
I just realized how odd it is having TMP and TA on a tour together.
like obviously there is crossover but TMP is so happy go lucky and it shows in their songs and TA have crushingly emotional songs. Going in happy leaving sad as fuck
like obviously there is crossover but TMP is so happy go lucky and it shows in their songs and TA have crushingly emotional songs. Going in happy leaving sad as fuck
I wouldn't describe Joyce as happy go lucky but there was the similar type of vibe when they were touring with TA last year
TheLetdown
Member
Rosenstock was a force, naturally. Guitar went into the crowd so I banged on it with zero musical talent. The guys from Pup were in the crowd because they're playing here tomorrow. This is all not Fest related, so it was pretty random. I watched a guy flat fall in love with a girl in the middle of a song. His eyes could see their children and the mortgage and the pension. It was sad but I have like a decade on these kids and what the brings and whiskey and beers over the night. The touring guitarist for Rosenstock's band is 1/3 of Hard Girls, which leads me to...
Hard Girls are the best fucking band, holy shit.
Hard Girls are the best fucking band, holy shit.
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
Apologies, I Have None went on tour with them a few years back before Dan left and they became super sad
That was a weird mix
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
Holy shit do D4 have a fucking 90 minute set? I'm not misreading that am I?
Hoooooly fuuuuuuck
Hoooooly fuuuuuuck
TheLetdown
Member
90 glorious minutes! I'm down here and about to try to hoof it to Bo Diddley. Uh, late start getting here....
I asked our boy Jeff about the Minor Threat set and he gave me three songs to throw out there. I told him "I don't wanna hear it" is the one song I would choose to broadcast to the globe. And then threatened to start a Kickstarter to do so. He said they're playing it, so you're welcome.
Here's a pic of last night:
I asked our boy Jeff about the Minor Threat set and he gave me three songs to throw out there. I told him "I don't wanna hear it" is the one song I would choose to broadcast to the globe. And then threatened to start a Kickstarter to do so. He said they're playing it, so you're welcome.
Here's a pic of last night:
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
I am dead
The Ergs next
Also hi TheLetdown
The Ergs next
Also hi TheLetdown
This is a joke. ICP level of crap. The kid is one of the band member's son I hope.
Listening to the new American Football right now.
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
I was right near the front for The Ergs, nearly died (I might have asthma or something I dunno) and have bailed and am now sitting near the back lol
Still sounds amazing and I got a great view of the stage
Plus they're playing High Dive tomorrow so fuck it that'll be INSANE
Still sounds amazing and I got a great view of the stage
Plus they're playing High Dive tomorrow so fuck it that'll be INSANE