StreetsofBeige
Member
According to wiki, EVGA walked due to this explanation on Wiki? That is the hard line stance EVGA stood by? If so, they were willing to kill the company over that? Or was there more to it?
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Exit from GPU Partnerships and Manufacturing[edit]
On September 16, 2022, EVGA announced that it would be exiting the GPU business and terminating its partnership with Nvidia.[5] At the time of the announcement, GPU sales accounted for close to 80% of EVGA's gross revenue.[11] EVGA's CEO, Andrew Han, explained that the company did not have an interest in becoming an add-in board partner for other GPU vendors, such as AMD or Intel, nor did EVGA plan to sell to another company.[12] EVGA planned to continue to sell remaining RTX 30-series stock through the end of 2022 to complete the exit from the NVIDIA partnership. Han further explained that NVIDIA's conduct with its business partners was causing it to be difficult to maintain a consistent profit margin and thus the company would instead focus on other products with higher margins such as power supply units.[13]
Krappadizzle
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I've been pretty much only on EVGA for the last 15 years for GPU's. Been great and I've been loyal because of their customer service and how great all of my GPU's have lasted from them. Bummer to see them leaving the game. Welp, at least I know my 3080ti should last me for quite a while.
Brigandier
Member
Sad.... Their GPUs were solid as a fucking rock and could OC the balls off most of them.
Their PSU and Mobos over the years were also solid and some were mental.
Warranty and RMA was always great with them too, Sad end to one of the few good brands in PC industry and gaming pc components.
Their PSU and Mobos over the years were also solid and some were mental.
Warranty and RMA was always great with them too, Sad end to one of the few good brands in PC industry and gaming pc components.
Blackage
Member
eVGA Jacob jumped ship to Nvidia 3 months ago. It's been a sad time as somebody who exclusively bought their products GPUs.
I can only surmise it's due to an incompetent CEO in Andrew Han.
I mean we can talk about how scummy Nvidia is all day, but at the end of the day it seems like eVGA cut off it's nose to spite it's own face while Nvidia is enjoying record stock prices.
I can only surmise it's due to an incompetent CEO in Andrew Han.
I mean we can talk about how scummy Nvidia is all day, but at the end of the day it seems like eVGA cut off it's nose to spite it's own face while Nvidia is enjoying record stock prices.
Haint
Member
Yes they confirmed in their official statements to multiple outlets they were exiting the business primarily because the $1600 FE's were too cheap and Nvidia wouldn't allow them to price their esoteric Kingpin bullshit above $2000. Nvidia forced AIB's to offer at least one MSRP model with the 4000's, which seems to be what really set them off. They absolutely refused to do it and burned down their business over it. Their owners were rich assholes that just intended to fuck off to a luxury resort for the rest of their lives.
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Shadowstar39
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Yep that is how I got my 3060ti, step up from 2060. Was great just had to wait a few months (felt like forever though).
LavitzSlambert
Member
While EVGA has made some bad moves in recent years, they were still top dog partner for Nvidia in terms of quality. My GTX 1070 SC has been an incredible value and my G2 PSU is bulletproof. I have had good experiences with MSI's offerings so they'll probably be my next choice, but damn I am gonna miss EVGA. End of an era.
Soodanim
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I was trying to think about this the other day:
Which nVidia GPU manufacturer actually has a good reputation now? I'm sure I've seen things come out about MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte, and all the other big names. Who's safe and reliable?
My MSI 1660ti is serving me well and I think their thing was more shady business than low quality, so maybe them?
Which nVidia GPU manufacturer actually has a good reputation now? I'm sure I've seen things come out about MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte, and all the other big names. Who's safe and reliable?
My MSI 1660ti is serving me well and I think their thing was more shady business than low quality, so maybe them?
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Palit/Gainward is reliable and were the unsung king of the RTX3000s cuz they were one of few who actually bothered to "over" engineer their coolers and actually used their backplates for extra cooling of GDDR6X memory.
But mileage may vary depending on where in the world you are because as far as I know they dont have a worldwide warranty program.
I believe ASUS has taken the spot of EVGA as the premium brand.
MSI Suprim X is the only real replacement to the EVGA FTW series of cards.
Ada Lovelace though is so efficient it actually doesnt matter which manufacturer you buy from, even Zotac with missing thermal pads still wont overheat or fail to hit clocks unless you really really really keep it in an oven.
P.S
Little known fact Palit is the biggest Nvidia distributor which is why returns get sorted super fast.....they have ridiculous amounts of stock.
Pagusas
Elden Member
Gamers Nexus has a story on this up already, seems to be implying the EVGA CEO intentionally wants to close down EVGA for personal reasons and has no interest in selling the company. Such a weird thing to see in this day and age, surely he could have made Billions off the sale of the company, even if it's loaded with debt it still has a valuable name.
Tams
Member
No, fuck Nvidia.
They hiked up the prices for AIB partners and then implied/hoped us customers should/would blame the AIB partners, not Nvidia.
As someone else said here, the larger partners can contribute to make a profit on such small margins, but smaller ones cannot.
EVGA should have switched to AMD.
Soodanim
Member
Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time. I think there was something about brittle boards from one of the top ones (ASUS or MSI) fairly recently but I can't for the life of me remember which.
That's good to hear about AL being so efficient, it's a shame the VRAM is less than ideal going forward because I'd probably have bought one by now. I do like an efficient system.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Breaking PCBs was Gigabyte.
And they have known about this issue since the RTX30s....yet did the same shit for the RTX40s.
I have a stark hatred of everything Gigabyte, I dont like their GPUs in general, I hate their motherboards cuz the BIOS may or may not work, its almost always a gamble when you buy a Gigabyte board.....RAM might work or it might not, it may or may not detect the CPU, etc etc.....id rather stick with near literally any other brand funny cuz for AM4 their Motherboards on paper were excellent.....but if they dont work whats the point?(AsRock also gets a side eye from me)
Kenpachii
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I buy what performs the best and has the best price, evga never fitted that scenario on the GPU department. The only thing that set them appart was there upgrade solution and kingpin cards for whatever wanted to buy that i guess.
As i don't upgrade gpu's very often and keep them a few gens its kinda pointless to me anyway. There PSU's where great tho, i did own those.
As i don't upgrade gpu's very often and keep them a few gens its kinda pointless to me anyway. There PSU's where great tho, i did own those.
Soodanim
Member
Ah, good to know. My only knowledge of Gigabyte is from when I was shopping for 970s and remember Gigabyte being more expensive with 3 fans when others had 2. I just want well made products that work as they should, that shouldn't be too much to ask.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Hahaha I feel you.
I do PC building on the side and worked in a custom PC shop during college.
Seeing the number of returns for certain products also made me weary of certain brands but also opened my eyes to brands that might go under the radar.
For motherboards ive trusted ASUS and MSI in recent history, AsRock seemed to have dropped the ball relatively recently, they were originally my go to brand as a good bang for buck.
For GPUs right now other than Gigabyte for obvious reasons any brand will be good enough, even last generation those funny brands you never heard of like ColorFul and Inno3D were and still are good.
Unless theres a specific use case e.g Small form factor, silent operation, choking case etc, literally any brand even Zotac gets the job done.
If you really want piece of mind.....buy a Founders Edition.
Soodanim
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Founders Editions also threw me off, I remember them first being introduced and the general feedback was that they renamed the most basic 1 fan models and upped the price. But now it seems like they're decently respected. I'm definitely out of touch with the details of the GPU game, having not built in 7 years and not upgraded GPU since getting this 1660ti.Hahaha I feel you.
I do PC building on the side and worked in a custom PC shop during college.
Seeing the number of returns for certain products also made me weary of certain brands but also opened my eyes to brands that might go under the radar.
For motherboards ive trusted ASUS and MSI in recent history, AsRock seemed to have dropped the ball relatively recently, they were originally my go to brand as a good bang for buck.
For GPUs right now other than Gigabyte for obvious reasons any brand will be good enough, even last generation those funny brands you never heard of like ColorFul and Inno3D were and still are good.
Unless theres a specific use case e.g Small form factor, silent operation, choking case etc, literally any brand even Zotac gets the job done.
If you really want piece of mind.....buy a Founders Edition.
Spyxos
Member
EVGA denies that company is shutting down and exiting PC business
EVGA denies that company is shutting down and exiting PC business - Dexerto
Online rumor has sparked a fervent discussion that EVGA is shutting up shop. But, those rumors appear to be unfounded, or so the company claims.
www.dexerto.com
However, there are almost no products for sale on the EVGA website. But it could also be, that they supply their partners first.
EVGA response
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GreatnessRD
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A small gain is still a small gain. Who knows? Maybe the EVGA loyalist might test out AMD cards because of EVGA and their status as one of the best Customer service brands. Now I'm not saying they're going to change AMD's market share to 50/50 with Nvidia, but it might bring up that 15% to 16% , haha.
RadioactiveLobster
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Here's Steve's take on it.
Timestamped to the relevant section.
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
It's really hard to escape the feeling that EVGA is going under. There is too much smoke.
The real red flag is the 3 year PSU warranty. That's big time out of the ordinary.
Hardensoul
Member
I've not been keeping up with these manufacturers. Only every 5 yrs when I build new rig. My last GPU buy is EVGA 2070 TX.
What is Palit/Gainward? I never heard of them. Do they sell in US?
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
I left the US some years ago so I cant double check, i would assume Palit or Gainward would be available in the US as they are Nvidias biggest distributor.
Gainward used to be a GPU distributor, Palit then bought them and basically sells the same GPUs under different names depending on where you live.
Palit and the Gainward equivalent GPUs are actually the exact same GPU with a slightly different design.
Hardensoul
Member
I just did some search, they just sell in EU, Amazon and Newegg would have long ship times for US. Thank you, now I have options on new build.
Honey Bunny
Member
Question: is there a single GPU sub-brand that isnt based in China/Taiwan?