DoktorEvil
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Arlen Spector is dead. There will be no Congressional hearings.
NFL is nearly untouchable.
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ESPN: "Spygate to Deflategate: Inside what split the NFL and Patriots apart"
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Arlen Spector is dead. There will be no Congressional hearings.
NFL is nearly untouchable.
When did I defend cheating? Do you have trouble reading? Is that vein throbbing on the side of your head causing all the words to blur together?
If domestic violence doesnt stop people from watching, do you really think cheating will?
I dont fault pats fans for continued support of their team, its the fans that think it is impossible that any of this could have happened that make me scratch my head.
EDIT: This doesnt apply to you Dragon.
ThisGuy
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The reason I said you defend cheating is because you quoted me. I was talking about the fans who defend their shitty antics. If you take issue with what I said, you must be one of the fans who defend it.
I'll just chalk it up to more of that pat's fan super shit logic. How does a guy like you go home and sleep with his wife?
You had shitty logic. I called you on it. So you decide to use extra shitty logic and call millions of people shit over a football team they support. Sounds like you probably need to take a step back bud.
So opponents take all these measures and still lose...
backflip10019
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If the effect it has is so minimal, why would the Patriots continue cheating? There has to be some significant upside to it for them to continue to cheat. Why else would they risk being caught?
teruterubozu
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Wow no need to get personal.
Veritigo_X
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I'm just done with all this shit. I'm happy the season starts Thursday so we can talk about the games for fucks sake and not this bs. If only the Seahawks would have ran the football, the salt would not be so high. Asshole Seahawks OC.
Edit: I'm a Browns fan so I have no ....dog.....in this fight.
Edit: I'm a Browns fan so I have no ....dog.....in this fight.
We want to encourage the salt, not discourage it. These threads are powered by salt.
crimzonflame
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I really hope the Patriots and their fans get theirs one day. I really do.
Yeah I'm sure Thursday there will be no talk over Spygate or Deflategate.
Oh I know you're right, mainly excited for Sunday, but just the fact that the season will start.
We got 4 of them. But thanks for hoping we get another! Appreciate the love and well wishes.
Yikes.
Monster Zero
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It's whatever, patriot fans are fine with it. Which is odd, but it's not like they have anymore integrity anyway. Only patriots fans like themselves. A nice ole bubble of people to love Tom Brady
Alligatorjandro
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What do you want us to get?
DoktorEvil
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ThisGuy
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What shit logic are you seeing with your pervy eyes? I said fans who defend the pats cheating are shitty. Thats pretty spot on. How much shit can one person post. Your team is so garbage.
Yeah, "yikes" indeed. An article that contains no proof or evidence of cheating other than a bunch of players and coaches claiming they were scared of being spied on because they kept losing to the Pats. "How can this keep happening?! We're trying really hard to win, I swear, but they seem to keep beating us? WHY?!!!!"
BFIB
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NFL is true Teflon.
SliceSabre
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Dude you are too much of a Pats fan to bother even having a discussion with.
And before you bring up "You just mad." again. I root for the Browns and they lose to everybody so I have no particular hate for the Pats more than any other team.
Haloid1177
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Goodell desperate to not take that L.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Goodell is the one who looks bad in all of this.
Damn man just relax, you're getting way too heated over this.
What would you like to discuss? The rings or the lack of any proof?
Not to the people that matter.
I know. It's so weird.
Of all the awful stuff that goes on in the NFL, video taping from the wrong area and some under deflated balls in half of a blow out playoff game get this much attention.
Alligatorjandro
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A soul is overrated.
Deflategate essentially happened years ago but no one really knows about it. Why? Because it was the Jets. Who gives a shit about the Jets?
The Albatross
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Meh, the Patriots had about 4 noteworthy years out of 40 prior to 2001. It's safe to say that this fanbase and franchise has "gotten theirs" already.
Long time Patriots fan here who also likes other teams and franchises. I corroborate the other guy's post. This article quotes unnamed, anonymous sources and is written like conspiracy theory fan fiction. It likens NFL players, coaches, and staff to mob bosses, is incredibly biased, does not cite any sources, and quotes sources who wish not to be named. The only sources who are named are largely being quoted on statements made in the past, like Bill Polian and Hines Wards; one a GM whose all star teams perenially lost to the Patriots, the other who similarly was on the losing end to Patriots teams more often than not. Coincidentally, the story -- largely about a scandal that was written about ad nauseam almost 10 years ago -- breaks after the NFL has yet another enormous embarrassment when the league lost yet another appeal in court. Further, the article is published by ESPN which came off looking very bad in its poor reporting of the Deflategate scandal.
Spygate is something that really bothered me as a Patriots fan at the time (and I suppose since), but this article is hot garbage with nothing new, no merit, and reeks of being planted by the NFL after yet another league embarrassment.
"To be a sports fan is an exercise in lying to yourself and having the willingness to believe it. Even right now, there's some fan in Jacksonville that feels pretty good about their team's chance." -Ronny B.
This is the starting point if you're the fan of any team. I know it's a generalization, but we all bring some bias into this. I'm from Boston, and I know I'm not objective. Honestly, I just want the damn season to start. I'm sick of hearing about this on both sides. It's tiresome.
This is the starting point if you're the fan of any team. I know it's a generalization, but we all bring some bias into this. I'm from Boston, and I know I'm not objective. Honestly, I just want the damn season to start. I'm sick of hearing about this on both sides. It's tiresome.
Well said. Agreed.
True story. Being a Pats fan in the 70's and 80's was really difficult. Oooof... I still miss Grogan sometimes.
Hari Seldon
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Glad I gave up on this league years ago. The only use of NFL anymore is to use it as a stat generator for playing spreadsheet football. To actually watch that commercial filled cheating shitfest is terrible.
Muppet of a Man
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You're part of the problem, friend. Stop being part of the problem.
We know how that story ends though. It's one of my favorites ever told.
Man, Eli and the Giants stomping the Patriots out of a perfect season is the most beautiful ending anyone could ever ask for:
mightynine
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I am enjoying Bill Simmons playing Patriots PR on Twitter today.
Seriously what are you babbling about? Are you having an aneurysm? Pervy eyes? Seriously what the fucking fuck?
It's pretty obvious that most all the Pats fans here plus those inexplicably supporting the Patriots haven't read the article.
If anything it makes Goodell and the NFL worse because of how they handled everything. The Pats stuff we all knew about.
But right it's just a hit piece NFL ordered against the Pats even if it makes them look terrible. Oh and even though the journalist is well respected, it reads like a child wrote it! But of course!
Did you guys even read it and see who wrote it?
And lol people reacting like the NFL has it out for the Pats or that they only investigated the Pats cause of ESPN's initial report. For as crazy as they call people who claim the Pats cheated, it's hilarious the hoops, mental gymnastics, and conspiracy theories Pats fans jump through.
Read the Mike Martz portion and tell me that isn't shady as hell.
If anything it makes Goodell and the NFL worse because of how they handled everything. The Pats stuff we all knew about.
But right it's just a hit piece NFL ordered against the Pats even if it makes them look terrible. Oh and even though the journalist is well respected, it reads like a child wrote it! But of course!
Did you guys even read it and see who wrote it?
And lol people reacting like the NFL has it out for the Pats or that they only investigated the Pats cause of ESPN's initial report. For as crazy as they call people who claim the Pats cheated, it's hilarious the hoops, mental gymnastics, and conspiracy theories Pats fans jump through.
Read the Mike Martz portion and tell me that isn't shady as hell.
Netherscourge
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This is funny because Bob Kraft personally apologized to all the NFL owners back in 2008 for the cheating by his head coach at an emergency owners' meeting.
And then Bill Belichick, at the same meeting, apologized and said they DID IT because they misinterpreted the NFL rules and thought it was legal.
Now all of a sudden it never happened?
Freaking liars.
All those Superbowls and MVP awards for the Patriots should be vacated. They are just total garbage.
If Pat's fans had any freaking souls, they would stop blindly following that creep Head Coach and demand his resignation.
Because all he's done is taint that franchise with lies, deception and poor sportsmanship and he's got Bob Kraft constantly running damage control for him.
Kraft himself is a impotent moron, but he does listen to the people who make him rich - aka the season ticket holders. So come on Pat's fans, show some self-respect and get rid of the cheating stigma you keep defending.
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DragonSworne
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Lol is that a serious reply? So the Patriots are now claiming Spygate never happened.
This team needs to be banned from the nfl.
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