The only thing about playing on Standard is that if you ever plan on playing the earlier games you'll probably get your ass kicked, Etrian Odyssey is the only series where I always play on the highest difficulty available just to be consistent with myself (I started with 2 after all).
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Etrian Odyssey Community Thread: The Ongoing Adventures of Fight and Heal
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The only thing about playing on Standard is that if you ever plan on playing the earlier games you'll probably get your ass kicked, Etrian Odyssey is the only series where I always play on the highest difficulty available just to be consistent with myself (I started with 2 after all).
I'd argue all of the bosses are insane on expert mode, since pretty much all of them basically follow a "figure out this pattern or die" design philosophy, on top of the huge amounts of health. Still really like all of the environmental puzzles involving them, though, as well as all the environmental interaction U2 added in general, so I'm really hoping V doubles down on that while moving away from (kind of) everything else.
dreamlongdead
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No, I actually played the original DS entries and Untold Expert is far worse than those games.
I honestly think Expert is badly designed, and I had to do all kinds of grimoire grinding and cheesing to beat the Core on Untold 1. I only bothered to do so because the medal required Expert. Otherwise, fighting mobs and bosses on Expert just isn't worth it to me.
I played Untold 1 Story mode on Standard because I didn't really like the party setup enough to care about figuring things out but I thought Untold 2 Story mode on Expert was pretty well balanced and had a really fun class balance setup. Stuff like the Juggernaut was really hard, but in a fun way IMO.
Might just be story mode then that suffers from imbalance in difficulty.
Grim Patron
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Didn't they announce it sooner though?
I am in the
labyrinth of EO IV. Now I have all the classes unlocked, I wonder if the last class is good to invest.
The classes of my main unit are: (first row) Landsknecht/Imperial (formerly was Landsknecht/Bushi), Nightseeker/Dancer, Fortress/Bushi, (second row) Arcanist/Medic and Bushi/Landsknecht.
I'm fine with all of them, except the first (and change the Nightseeker and Bushi rows, actually). I really liked the Landsknecht/Bushi combination thanks to the Charge Skill, so maybe I return to this. Vanguard + Charge + Sword Tempest is a beast.
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The classes of my main unit are: (first row) Landsknecht/Imperial (formerly was Landsknecht/Bushi), Nightseeker/Dancer, Fortress/Bushi, (second row) Arcanist/Medic and Bushi/Landsknecht.
I'm fine with all of them, except the first (and change the Nightseeker and Bushi rows, actually). I really liked the Landsknecht/Bushi combination thanks to the Charge Skill, so maybe I return to this. Vanguard + Charge + Sword Tempest is a beast.
The last class,
Imperial
Interesting. May I know what offensive skills are good? Maybe I can try a
Imperial/Bushi
Ouch. This sound like the offensive skills may be so OP. I like the idea.
Parakeetman
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Im still guessing that they want Persona 5 out of the way first before announcing it?
In my experience, Imperial/Bushi works with Charge just fine. Once you've got Enlightenment and maxed out Ignition, you can go:
Assault Drive → Heat Sink → Charge → Elemental Drive → Ignition → Elemental Drive x 3
which should be enough to finish off most things, especially when paired with a bunch of other Bushi damage-boosting passives.
Though I've also done Imperial/Nightseeker for some lulz. Follow Trace making an Elemental Drive trigger twice is lots of fun, though probably not as optimal as other combinations.
Ah it's been a while since I play EOIV, so my memory is a little fuzzy. But Charge only affects a single Drive (or 2 if you Charge 1st turn), compared to the Runic passives which boost the entire Ignition combo. But if you're not looking to min-max Bushi works too. I remember I did I/B before resting for I/R postgame. Man Imperial is such a fun class. I wish they did a similar class again.
Edit: Oh and that Charge could be replaced with Hawkeye which further boosts elemental damage.
Bushi's Blood Surge, Surge Mastery and Power Boost added to a pretty significant attack boost if memory serves, but I can't remember if it was better than all the stacked Runemaster subclass passives or not. I did a multiple Imperial front line playthrough once with different subclasses and their damage output was similar from what I recall. That said, there is a piece of gear hidden in the 5th stratum which gives the Charge skill so one doesn't need to subclass Bushi for that alone. Playing through the story multiple times via New Game+ is one way to accumulate several of them for a bit of extra fun.
Fire Emblem x EO let's GO
E_Darkness
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EO SRPG when.
I hope Himukai Yuji draws more...
Well there's the Fafnir in EO2U.
Grim Patron
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No news but yea Nich Maragos mentioned EOV and his concern since it has been 6 months after JP release - https://twitter.com/nichronomicon/status/836274378295779331
E_Darkness
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I'm no expert, but I think Hardin just got a better job somewhere else. He's now a senior PR manager at NCSoft.
But yeah, it's getting worrying now. Vaguely hoping its because they didn't want to announce anything until after Persona 5, I'm really hoping...
SliceSabre
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The fact it hasn't come up in the Switch announcement made me lose hope.
Dandy Crocodile
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They did announce Caligula before P5 was out, though that might have been because of other business partnerships.
I'd lean more towards June/July for EOV than May. Like, I could see it being shown off at their E3 booth.
Atlus USA is in this weird spot. Sucks having to wait so long for these Japanese games.
Maybe an announcement in May then. But EO is not a very E3 game lol.
Grim Patron
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Lets think what else they could have at E3. No doubt Yakuza Kiwami will be there with maybe Yakuza 6. Valkyria (lol) revoLOLtion. Utawataraataromuno 2 games (im buying this day one). What else?
Caligula, maybe Rock of Ages 2 (depends on release date), Sonic Mania, and there's probably more. Part of the reason that the E3 2017 booth is possibly labeled "Atlus / Sega" might be partly because it'll be more Sega heavy this time around.
Grim Patron
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good point. I forgot about the sonic stuff. so sonic mania + that other sonic game. Shenmue hd if that's a thing as well.
Well, that depends - how many are more or less only lurking? xD
Parakeetman
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reposting because we have nothing else better to discuss lol
Grim Patron
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Caligula has a release date but not a peep about EOV :/
Well congrats we have EMD2. yay.
The new class' design looks way too busy compared to Himukai's designs.
There seems to be a voting held related to the 10th Anniversary. Not too sure what it's about though.
http://sq-atlus.jp/sfd2/vote/
There seems to be a voting held related to the 10th Anniversary. Not too sure what it's about though.
http://sq-atlus.jp/sfd2/vote/
SliceSabre
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I will continue to hold out hope.
There's a livestream in May so maybe.....
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