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[BlueTsunami]

If the PS4/720 are built with ads in mind, I'm out. Will move even further away from this hobby. Maybe I'll stick with handheld/PC gaming.

 

[Snuggles]

That's an excellent post...looks as if the best of the conversation has already passed and the last few pages is just typical horseshit of a spent topic on GAF. Should have known with the usual suspects and all.

Actually, that point has been made several times over. It's a little something called 'foresight'. You must have missed those posts.

 

[GTP_Daverytimes]

Actually, that point has been made several times over. It's a little something called 'foresight'. You must have missed those posts.

But surly doesn't believe that it will get bigger. In fact i made a bet with him that in 2 years time if Microsoft doesn't expand on this (Making it mandatory to view ads) i will paypal him $20.

 

[Sydle]

Actually, that point has been made several times over. It's a little something called 'foresight'. You must have missed those posts.

I read the OP and jumped to the end of the thread hoping to read a good conversation. Instead I see the usual shit from the usual suspects complaining about people who pay for Live, or that it doesn't matter if the ads are game-related because it's the principal of the matter that they're ads in the first place. That people who find them useful can't possibly have a valid opinion, they must be getting paid or they're just bias. Just awfully stupid shit...

Now that I know the good stuff was already said there's no reason to keep reading this thread.

 

[Snuggles]

I read the OP and jumped to the end of the thread hoping to read a good conversation. Instead I see the usual shit from the usual suspects complaining about people who pay for Live, or that it doesn't matter if the ads are game-related because it's the principal of the matter that they're ads in the first place. That people who find them useful can't possibly have a valid opinion, they must be getting paid or they're just bias. Just awfully stupid shit...

So you were just skimming for posts to agree with? That's gotta be hard when agreeing means agreeing with ads. But then again, some find them interesting and informative, who am I to judge.

Buying things enhances our gaming experiences. *

* this is a direct quote from me before I was exposed by that one guy

 

[MrNyarlathotep]

I just did a search on Steam and it took me all of two searches to find one. Monday Night Combat. The first game I searched for was Braid, but that does have a demo even if it did come out a month after the game was available.

And MNC has had at least 2 'free weekends' which I would class as a demo.

You're an ill-informed troll. That I have seen evidence for.

Even if I am WRONG on things I believe to be true but cannot find google links for (and apparently you fucking love your google research...) you are still ignoring the substantive part of my argument and instead focussing on ad hominem;

All modern gaming platforms have some form of downloadable content that must be provided by the platform owner.

All modern gaming platforms have an online gameplay component to their service.

All modern gaming platforms except for the 360 provide these features for free; both downloading of content and the full access to the entirety of a game a consumer has purchased, online play and all.

I'm sure you are going to attempt to make a qualitative distinction here (b-b-but live is the best!) but given those facts there are three conclusions you can draw;

1) Everybody except MS is fundamentally inept at the basic tenets of business (making a profit from the business they are in).

2) MS are fundamentally incompetent at one of the core aspects of their own business (where they cannot keep costs as low as their competitors)

3) MS are greedy, and not only demand subscription charges but sell advertising to leverage its consumers as a demographic beyond the internal promotions you see on competing services (the 'whats new for you on our store' type banners).

I know which of those three I consider to be the most likely.

 

[wwm0nkey]

Was THIS posted at all? Shows ads working with Kinect on their TV service and WP7.

 

[Momo]

If the PS4/720 are built with ads in mind, I'm out. Will move even further away from this hobby. Maybe I'll stick with handheld/PC gaming.

Steam has adds, although they arent obnoxious and usually are just good deals. Also as soon as the platform holders gets handhelds permanently connected, expect adds up the buttocks.