LegendofLex
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Eurogamer: Nintendo Switch to get Pokémon Sun and Moon third version: Pokemon Stars
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Cultural differences between Japan and other parts of the world on how a business should be run?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Makes sense why Zelda wasn't coming at launch, far too much cannibalisation of sales would have happened
Lord have mercy. It's not even an argument. Yes, Nintendo doesn't like this news.
Okay, now what? I'm not trying to disprove anything. I'm saying "Yeah, so?" Why exactly should we care?
It's probably the only link to previous gen games, given the difference in hardware.
Pokemon Eklipse or nothing!
Btw I'm expecting a MH3Ultimate kind of game, graphically.
that is good, I suppose, for a mainline pokemon game playable both on the go and at home?
Plus, everyone knows that the first-two versions of a pokemon game arent' the only one/s, so I don't see any major damage to Sun/Moon sales actually.
Btw I'm expecting a MH3Ultimate kind of game, graphically.
that is good, I suppose, for a mainline pokemon game playable both on the go and at home?
Plus, everyone knows that the first-two versions of a pokemon game arent' the only one/s, so I don't see any major damage to Sun/Moon sales actually.
While we talk more about how this is going to affect Nintendo, I think the direct hit of this leak goes to the retailers. Amazon gonna be like "Hey, I already bought you your copy now. Gonna ship it just about right no---oh you're cancelling your preorder? Because of Switch version rumor? OK. Thanks, Eurogamer." 10m copies have already been shipped, so Big N is already making bank, anyway.
While the possibility of lost sales would only be pretty small because of this, they are still lost sales. I'm not saying what Eurogamer did was intentionally bad, but the other side of the argument also has valid points.
While the possibility of lost sales would only be pretty small because of this, they are still lost sales. I'm not saying what Eurogamer did was intentionally bad, but the other side of the argument also has valid points.
LegendofLex
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From the OP:
Eurogamer corrected their article to name the app correctly as Pokemon Bank.
ZombiePlatypus
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I don't wanna be a downer, but this is killing my hype for Sun & Moon 3DS. Stars sounds like it'll be the bigger, badder, definitive version. 3rd entries always were and the fact that it's on a hybrid is a game changer. What's the incentive of picking up the 3DS entries outside of merely not having to wait? It says you can trade pokemon between both. Guess that's cool, but not sure it's enough.
Yeah I'm glad to see bank being the standard for everything so far. Hope it keeps going forever and they just update it a little as they go.
How can Nintendo money hate for their own game lmaooo
CopperPuppy
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Hype will be sky-high if true.
LegendofLex
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I mean, it's a web service, so there's no reason to think they'd discontinue it without a replacement.
It's not unreasonable to expect it to be more profitable to sell a 3DS game now, with their teams, manufacturing processes, and retail agreements established and low-cost, compared to the cost of delivering a risky Switch product next year, so I'm not confident about your conclusions.
peanutbutterlatte
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I don't want to wait a year so I'll play the 20fps 3DS version for now.
NinjaCoachZ
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MCVUK reported Pokemon was coming to Switch in August and a couple months later Game Freak themselves said they had something in the works.
Plus it just makes sense to think that if Sun and Moon get a third version, it probably won't be locked to 3DS.
you're referring to a full fledged Pokemon game as a risky product so I'm not confident about your conclusion either
LegendofLex
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The profit opportunity for someone buying a new piece of hardware that will have years of future software support is much greater than for someone buying a game for a piece of hardware they already own, or even buying hardware that peaked years ago to play that game.
You're talking about the margin for one game + maybe some older titles with limited market activity vs. the margin for several games, many of which will increasingly depend on long-term services support.
Jon Carter
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Chances that Gaf crashes on January 12th are decreasing. It's too bad that so much about the Switch has leaked.
SinCityAssassin
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Now time to play the year long waiting game.
You realize that the Switch announcement crashed Gaf even though it was technically all leaked back in August.
i have a feeling it would still crash.
I think people are forgetting something important. Anyone who's been a pokemon fan for years knows that there has usually, almost always been a new pokemon game every year. This is no exception, it's a third version of sun/moon, and just like previous generations, will be released within 1-2 years after the first versions. The only major difference is that it will be on an entirely new platform, which not everyone will be willing to buy, because they will be satisfied with their 3ds.
This won't hurt sales, in fact, as pointed out by others already, it might have completely convinced people to buy the switch day one, if pokemon will be there within 1 year of it's lifetime. Might have ruined the surprise though, but honestly, who wasn't expecting a new pokemon game shortly after sun/moon?
This won't hurt sales, in fact, as pointed out by others already, it might have completely convinced people to buy the switch day one, if pokemon will be there within 1 year of it's lifetime. Might have ruined the surprise though, but honestly, who wasn't expecting a new pokemon game shortly after sun/moon?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That what happens when you delay announcements of games by 2 months for a system releasing in March
Oh, yeah, the purity of the handheld experience. Also used as an argument why Switch won't actually replace 3ds. Lol.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
TBF though the switch is glorified handheld, purity my ass.
Great? A sale is a sale, except this is a sale plus a hardware sale.
I don't think that Pokémon Star will be something that they will show at January 12. I can see it happening at E3 just to give a little more breathing room for S/M on 3DS plus it is a traditional holiday game so they won't announce it too soon, especially when there are other more games coming out way before it.
Magearna and the Munchlax with a Z Move probably won't be available by the time Stars comes out, so there is that. You also might not be able to get Ash-Greninja directly into Stars like you can into Sun and Moon via the demo.
It better be...
I'm actually okay with that, I've got a lot on my plate as-is so its all good in my book lol
NinjaCoachZ
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Yeah, I think Stars will be announced on its own terms for sure.
If it was revealed in January, imagine the frustration from Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3 being announced 5 months after the original and now multiply that by 100.
Serenitynow
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The idea is that people would have bought a 3DS version now, then bought the Switch version down the line. Ergo two sales plus a hardware sale.
Quintin DM
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No surprises here, other than that it's exclusive to Switch. I dunno for some reason I kind of thought that the third game (Stars is what we're calling it I guess) would be a multiplatform release (3DS & Switch). Well I already bought both Sun & Moon and I'll triple dip for "Stars" as well so you got my money Nintendo.
orthodoxy1095
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Oh I agree, I think that's a tradeoff far better for them long-term.
Starwolf_UK
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The funny thing about the evidence of the model in the reveal trailer. I'm pretty sure that is the Sun/Moon model. The models having large polygon counts is part of why the games perform so badly on the 3ds but they are pretty future proof as a result.
I could see it being New 3DS and switch only as that would emulate what Crystal did back in Gen II (GBC only) and I think for Sun/Moon the New 3DS only currently uses some more RAM (which o3DS has to reboot to get hold of).
I could see it being New 3DS and switch only as that would emulate what Crystal did back in Gen II (GBC only) and I think for Sun/Moon the New 3DS only currently uses some more RAM (which o3DS has to reboot to get hold of).
The last time we had a traditional 3rd version was Platinum. Black/White 3rd version were sequels that had you going through the overworld differently with a new plot, Gen VI took a year out to make Gen VII better so got no 3rd version (and boy did XY need that) and Sun Moon do have
several vacant plots of land in the world which scream "there could be gyms here and given we just got the Pokemon league this would be next" but more similarly to recent 3rd versions are hints of some legendaries having different formes
Okami Haundo
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I'm also willing to bet that the number of people who choose to wait will be relatively small. For those who own a 3DS right now and were already waiting to play the game this fall, why wait another year when it involves buying more hardware? The only people I see this seriously affecting are those who don't own a 3DS yet and might have considered buying one this fall.
There's also the extremely small minority who I see complaining about the FPS issues. I understand why that's visually unappealing, but it wouldn't keep me from playing the game. Especially when said issues happen during turn-based battles.
The Pokemon Company CEO, not Game Freak. But thats just nitpicking on my part.
SweetDonuts
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Can't really play Sun & Moon at the moment so this is perfect for me.
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