Eurogamer reviews Wii Chess

Shard

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http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=91320

"Analysis" seems like a good point to finish on. We obviously can't "review chess" and give it a score out of 10 in any sensible way, so the number below may well seem a bit arbitrary. It's a result of the following calculation: I like chess, Wii Chess has lots of sensible options, and the online play works, but it's missing a few things that would make it better, like voice comms, correspondence options and of course motion sensor controls for dangling a piece over a square and then putting it back down again. "Good", then, but whether you'd pay the best part of 20 quid for it is up to you.

7/10
 
Shard said:
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No correspondence or different controls I can understand criticising, but voice comms? Really?

Still quite interested in this, though, especially since it seems to be based on a pretty good AI engine.

this actually costs money?

Why not? Chess boards do. Many PC and all console chess games do. You can get free chess elsewhere, but this has several features that I'd imagine will justify the £19.99 for quite a few people.
 
YYZ said:
Why the hell would you buy this?
Because you like chess, want to play it online against random people or friends, do not own a 360 that has two chess games on live arcade for under £20
 
So they license the third best chess engine in the world and don't even allow correspondence play? Sounds stupid to me.
 
Tyrone Slothrop said:
i hear the animation is terrible in this

Pretty shocking, but the chesspiece physics are impeccable. The bump-mapping on player hands is stunning though, and the whole thing runs at a steady 60fps.
 
Its very confortable to play this game on Wii. Its overpriced though, but thats also partly because of the tax system here in Europe.
 
The Innocent X said:
So is this $10, because if not chessmaster Live on 360 would be a much better bet surely?

If you own a 360, yes. It has message play and is pretty fully-featured, though it is based on a lesser AI engine (The King, IIRC).
 
For a first party title, I'm really disappointed with the box art. And why does this need a box anyway? Save the plastic and put this on WiiWare.
 
Both the solo game and online parts are good (strong engine on one hand and possibility to play without friends codes on the other), if you need a chess package for Wii this is not bad.

It's a bit light on the options side, much like other Touch Generations titles, but by all means worth the price, if you are a chess player.

CM for XBLA has certainly more features (and good ones at that), if anything I am a bit skeptical about the engine because I see two achievements for beating the game at 1000 and 1200 ELO which is rather low.
 
maxmars said:
CM for XBLA has certainly more features (and good ones at that), if anything I am a bit skeptical about the engine because I see two achievements for beating the game at 1000 and 1200 ELO which is rather low.

Most people who would buy a console chess game aren't going to be much good at chess t.b.h.

Anyone serious about playing would play against other people or buy a top notch pc package.
 
The Innocent X said:
Most people who would buy a console chess game aren't going to be much good at chess t.b.h.

Anyone serious about playing would play against other people or buy a top notch pc package.

I said that much in the official thread for this product (the wii one), however this does not keep both the Wii and the 360 packages from being two nice chess products, if anything they are trying to cover different niches.

I myself tend to play

- at home with the wii or my wife (she's a good player)
- during travels, with chessmaster on my ds
- at work (during pauses) with Fritz

different products for different needs, luckily chess enthusiast do not lack alternatives. :D
 
Nintendo should do the Clubhouse games on Wii. I would buy it. Ultimate Party game. Come on, all those games, for $50, online. Booyah. Instabuy. I'm not sure why a port isn't on the way.
 
I'm amazed people care about the AI in a chess game. It's not even AI, there's nothing intelligent about it, the computer just calculates a bazillion possible moves into the future and then picks the best one. Playing against the computer is so artificial.
 
Xapati said:
I'm amazed people care about the AI in a chess game. It's not even AI, there's nothing intelligent about it, the computer just calculates a bazillion possible moves into the future and then picks the best one. Playing against the computer is so artificial.

This is the most retarded post I have seen in the last twelve months here -- and I browse GAF a lot!
 
Diablohead said:
Because you like chess, want to play it online against random people or friends, do not own a 360 that has two chess games on live arcade for under £20

You can fulfill all those needs with Yahoo Games.
 
Xapati said:
I'm amazed people care about the AI in a chess game. It's not even AI, there's nothing intelligent about it, the computer just calculates a bazillion possible moves into the future and then picks the best one. Playing against the computer is so artificial.

You've never programmed AI before, have you?

Wikipedia said:
A machine operating at the rate of one variation per micro-second would require over 10^90 years to calculate the first move!

Be informed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon_number
 
maxmars said:
I said that much in the official thread for this product (the wii one), however this does not keep both the Wii and the 360 packages from being two nice chess products, if anything they are trying to cover different niches.
Unless the niches are "people who own a 360" and "people who don't own a 360" I'm not sure how they're not directly competing. Both have a cheaper version of a professional engine, both have online play, both have a basic 2D board. The main differences seem to be that Chessmaster is ~$20 cheaper and has PBEM (well, more like PBM), voice chat, no region restrictions, and doesn't require you to put in a disc to play it.
 
No6 said:
Unless the niches are "people who own a 360" and "people who don't own a 360" I'm not sure how they're not directly competing. Both have a cheaper version of a professional engine, both have online play, both have a basic 2D board. The main differences seem to be that Chessmaster is ~$20 cheaper and has PBEM (well, more like PBM), voice chat, no region restrictions, and doesn't require you to put in a disc to play it.

To be honest I did not play cm live so I can't compare the two. A chess game to me in the end is as good as its AI and cm has always had good variety in that regard (e.g. personalities). But as I said, I did not try it so I don't know how good it is. The achievements seem to imply a not-so-great engine, but who knows!

Feature wise, cm live also has better learning tools vs. Wii chess.

Wii chess on the other hand is very easy to use, very touch-generations like, I think it's the perfect fit for adults who bought the wii, are not gamers and like a game of chess.
 
No6 said:
Unless the niches are "people who own a 360" and "people who don't own a 360" I'm not sure how they're not directly competing.
The niches ARE "people who own a 360" and "people who don't own a 360". Mark my words, I'll have more than one person ask me if I've seen that Wii chess game that doesn't even know what a 360 is.
 
THE GAME IS PRETTY UNBALANCED

THE WHITE FACTION ALWAYS START FIRST

HOPEFULLY IN THE SEQUEL, BOTH SIDES WILL TAKE TURNS SIMULTANEOUSLY, LIKE IN VANDAL HEARTS 2

4.9/10
 
maxmars said:
Wii chess on the other hand is very easy to use, very touch-generations like, I think it's the perfect fit for adults who bought the wii, are not gamers and like a game of chess.
Screenshots of CML don't make it look hard to use at all, and I thought you were complaining about the Wii Chess controls?

I mean, I guess you can say that they're going after different niches in order to deflect criticism, but doing so requires defining the niches very narrowly.
 
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