Eurogamer reviews Wii Chess

No6 said:
Screenshots of CML don't make it look hard to use at all, and I thought you were complaining about the Wii Chess controls?

I mean, I guess you can say that they're going after different niches in order to deflect criticism, but doing so requires defining the niches very narrowly.

I personally would have preferred point and click, but the dpad+a is ok I guess, it's a remote-like interface after all.

As for deflecting criticism, I do not understand what's the problem with either program. If you are targeting the wii program as it seems, I wouldn't say it's a definitely worse chess app. It can be more convenient, as you only need to put in a disk and start playing. You don't need to purchase stuff online, don't need a subscription to an online service and you can play it on any wii without having to be online. With a better engine to boot.

For a 360 user those may seem moot points, but there are people who do not go on as well as others with the online world or even a conventional pad.

The wii crowd seem to be made of many people who like to keep it simple and this program seem to be catering to them rather well.
 
Why must all chess threads be so retarded?

What the hell is wrong with you guys?

Chess is the KING of games. Chess video games have existed for decades.

Sure, it's most likely that Chessmaster LIVE for xbla will be superior to Wii Chess and I plan to get that instead. But for Wii-only owners the discussion should be whether this offers any features to justify its price, not stupid one-liners about non-games.
 
WhatRuOn said:
Chess is one of the greatest games ever conceived.


I prefer Go myself, but to each their own. Chess has always just seemed a bit too limiting for my taste when compared to Go.

But I do agree that Chess is one of the greatest games ever conceived.
 
Xapati said:
I'm amazed people care about the AI in a chess game. It's not even AI, there's nothing intelligent about it, the computer just calculates a bazillion possible moves into the future and then picks the best one. Playing against the computer is so artificial.

...

You realize AI stands for Artifical Intelligence do you?

And do you realize how the AI in other videogames operate? Including fps games? That's right, it goes through lots of possible moves and calculates the best one.
 
Greg Kasavin said:
CHESS

The latest offering in the rapidly overflowing strategy genre is hard evidence that strategy games need a real overhaul, and fast. Chess, a small-scale tactical turn-based strategy game, attempts to adopt the age-old "easy to learn, difficult to master" parameter made popular by Tetris. But the game's cumbersome play mechanics and superficial depth and detail all add up to a game that won't keep you busy for long.

Chess casts you as king of a small country at war with a rival country of equivalent military power. There is little background story to speak of, and by and large the units in the game are utterly lacking any character whatsoever. The faceless, nondescript units are dubbed arbitrarily such labels as "Knight" and "Bishop while their appearance reveals nothing to suggest these roles. To make matters worse, the units on both playable sides are entirely identical aside from a simple color palette swap. The setting of the conflict is equally uninspiring and consists merely of a two-color grid so as to represent the two warring factions. Adding insult to injury, there is only one available map- and it's pathetically small, an 8x8 matrix (Red Alert maps are up to 128x128 in size). The lack of more expansive battlefields makes Chess feel like little more than an over-glorified Minesweeper.

In a definite nod to Tetris, Chess eschews any kind of personality and styling in order to emphasize its supposedly addictive gameplay. Unfortunately, that gameplay is severely lacking. For one thing, there are only six units in the game. Of those six, two are practically worthless while one is an overpowered "god" unit, the Queen. She's your typical Lara Croft-esque 1990s "me, too" attempt to attract the fabled gaming girl audience from out of the woodwork to help solidify a customer base for a game that simply cannot sell itself on its own merits. The Queen can attack in any direction and she is balanced solely by the fact that both sides are equally equipped with only one. Otherwise, the functions of the six Chess units feel entirely arbitrary. For instance, Rooks can only move in horizontal lines, unable to attack enemies at diagonal angles; yet Bishops can move diagonally, but not horizontally. The result is a frustratingly unrealistic effort at creating balance and strategy where there is, in fact, very little of either element to be found.

Inexplicable pathing problems also plague Chess - the irritating Pawns can only move straight ahead, but for some reason or other they attack diagonally. Worst of all, your units are always deployed in exactly the same fashion. While there might have been some strategic element involved in cleverly deploying one's troops around the undeniably constricted map, the designers saw fit to enforce a "rule" about how the game should be set up. In the end, Chess matches may often go on for a great length of time because your Pawns always begin in front of your more useful forces, thereby blocking them off.

Only two players can compete simultaneously, thus severely limiting any play life to be found. There is only one gameplay mode- no capture the flag or team play - and that involves the two players taking turns moving their units one by one. The moment a player's King is threatened, that player is placed in a state of "check." At this point, the player must defend his King with whatever means are available. If he cannot defend his King, he is defeated. Yawn. All units are killed by a single hit, so even a lowly Pawn can be instrumental in defeating an opponent if you plan accordingly. While the artificial balance of forcing equivalent deployment for both sides turns Chess into something of a battle of wits, the turn-based play is poorly paced and never really picks up speed until halfway through a game, if then. And half the time, because of the limited troops available (and no resources with which to purchase more), matches end in disappointing stalemates.

This game attempts to accredit itself by virtue of its tactical play mechanics. Yet those mechanics are tedious and difficult to grasp and exacerbate Chess' other numerous failings. In fact, should you actually memorize all the infuriating little rules governing how the game is played, you'll find yourself growing weary of it all in short order. There's just no payoff to a properly executed game, because the restrictions on the units mean there's a "right" way to play. Thus no real variety can exist between competent players. The sluggish turn-based nature of Chess bogs the package still further and renders this strategy game an irreverent exercise in wasted time for all but the most die-hard turn-based strategy enthusiasts.

It's more than likely that Chess, due to its self-conscious though not entirely elegant simplicity, will garner a small handful of fans. But in light of this game's boundless oversights and limitations, there is no chance it could ever enjoy the sort of success that makes games like Westwood's C&C: Red Alert and Blizzard's Warcraft II the classics they are to this day.

Seriously though, Chess is overrated.
 
herod said:
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"CHESS"

Knight to bish 3 :lol

BTW Isn't loop express quite expensive to buy on it's own? So really isn't Wii Chess actually a pretty good deal considering what you get in the package? (Still wouldn't buy it though...)
 
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