I did actually participate in the land battles, but yeah... there's a good reason why I wasn't more active in the war. Last game my manpower was constantly at 250, taking a more active role probably meant me losing all my troops.
Europa Universalis IV MP Community Thread of Don't trust the Russian or trains-Part 3
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I don't even live in Holland, unlike Kabouter.
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Smack talk reaching epic levels
Didn't we have an agreement that because I helped you with England you will stay out of my French business? Not only that you broke that, but you actively tried to bring them upon me when I was exposed. You're right, that's not backstabbing, it's backstabbing while asking me if I would enjoy it.
Even if I did, it would still be better than living in Oopsy Daisy
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I mean, of course he lives there. Holland is the country of the Dutch, after all.
And I did stay out of your French business. All I did was pressuring you into not joining the war since it conflcted with my intrests.
I even said that I wouldn't take anything if it would happened that France occupied provinces etc (not even gold etc etc).
And now I will even call in France again and give you many provinces! See I am a good guy!
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I guess.
I call France into the war and let you have a bit of fun with them, we Peace out with giving you alot of France provinces (and releasing Styria)
What the fuck? We made a deal through PM before the game that we would never hurt each other. You never asked for help with Castille, and ended inheriting through a personal union before we could plan our big two-sided assault.
Well, when I played that session for you as Portugal when you couldn't make it I did participate in a two-sided assault on Castile and was instrumental (together with Toma) in beating Castile. So I don't really know what he's talking about there given that fact.
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You gotta love Crab though!
Anyway, as should be clear, I'm still in the game mainly to fulfill Kabouter's sweet dream of Westernizing Malacca, so I don't care too much about how we solve it any more
If jazz thinks white peace is a fair deal then whatever
But for future reference, it would be nice to know what rules are only considered 'mere technicalities' so that I can be offended if someone points out that I've broken one or more of those rules
Anyway, as should be clear, I'm still in the game mainly to fulfill Kabouter's sweet dream of Westernizing Malacca, so I don't care too much about how we solve it any more
If jazz thinks white peace is a fair deal then whatever
But for future reference, it would be nice to know what rules are only considered 'mere technicalities' so that I can be offended if someone points out that I've broken one or more of those rules
Too little, too late!
Anyways, crazy interesting to read about yesterday, especially fascinated by Fanbois excellent diplomacy!
Also, about the game ending/Kabouter not participating in future games, I would just want to say I am sorry for that since I am one of the early quitters this round. Hope you guys continue for a while still (so I can continue to work on my backlog!).
But for future reference, it would be nice to know what rules are only considered 'mere technicalities' so that I can be offended if someone points out that I've broken one or more of those rules
The ones that are invented after the incriminated activity happened and that end up creating a situation that would have been possible even by applying the new rules.
You gotta love Crab though!
Anyway, as should be clear, I'm still in the game mainly to fulfill Kabouter's sweet dream of Westernizing Malacca, so I don't care too much about how we solve it any more
If jazz thinks white peace is a fair deal then whatever
But for future reference, it would be nice to know what rules are only considered 'mere technicalities' so that I can be offended if someone points out that I've broken one or more of those rules
You might as well stop if that's the only reason you're still playing. I don't want you to do something you don't want to. It's also not like I'm blaming anyone for this, it's just that I'm looking for longer games, so GAF's EU MP games are clearly not for me. Shouldn't be that hard to get someone else to host.
But we are continuing...
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There's also fanboi's girlfriend's panties and what not, and you never know what can happen.
That reminds me... She is taking a shower right now... Should i fabricate claims or support rebels? If discovered there is a huge risk of embargo.There's also fanboi's girlfriend's panties and what not, and you never know what can happen.
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Fabricate claims, unless you have a mission?
And if you are embargoed you'll get the Show Superiority CB so you're all good
Mgoblue201
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If we turned this into an actual competition, I think that would encourage players to drop out even faster once things start to go poorly for them. Trying to "optimize" the way you play or ruthlessly compete with other players is a (reasonable) choice, but one, ironically, that I don't necessarily take. And on the subject of mega-alliances, I agree with you that alliances will naturally shift as circumstances change, rather than coalesce into huge blocs. People tend to overestimate just how permanent these alliances are, because they keep projecting the current circumstances into the future. For instance, everyone said that my alliance with Haly, back when he was playing Venice, was going to be unstoppable, but that lapsed naturally once the Ottomans were gone and there was no other threat to the both of us.
If you fought Uzbek and the Golden Horde, you wouldn't have to fight the Ottomans at the same time, because you can declare on the Uzbeks and not name the Golden Horde as a co-belligerent. You can then end that GH-Ottoman alliance and declare on the GH six years later and begin conquering land.
I know and that is likely what I'll end up trying. Doesnt mean its going to be easy though against a 70k army alliance, though.
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
Last time I checked the GH only had 30k, unless they went massively over their force limit for the war, and Uzbeks and Muscovy combined probably don't amount to much. Even if they were going over their force limit, it's not necessarily to their advantage. They're probably taking loans, drawing down their manpower, etc, so a long defensive war will be very painful for them.
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Regarding the new rule 3:
How are we going to uphold the Indirect involvement law? Wouldn't this make it impossible for players to ever take advantage of another human player that is already involved in a human war? Are everyone who's in separate wars against someone now automatically counted as allies, and if so, to whom? (the warleader?).
Say Fanboi had acted completely on his own, would he then be counted as an ally of mine?
I don't think we've quite thought this one through
How are we going to uphold the Indirect involvement law? Wouldn't this make it impossible for players to ever take advantage of another human player that is already involved in a human war? Are everyone who's in separate wars against someone now automatically counted as allies, and if so, to whom? (the warleader?).
Say Fanboi had acted completely on his own, would he then be counted as an ally of mine?
I don't think we've quite thought this one through
If fanboi had acted to take, say, Holland from KingSnake, then no. He would just be opportunistic, which is fine. However, what he did was specifically take action to aid you, as only an ally would.
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yes, of course, but that was a really obvious case, not least because Fanboi was about as discreet as Nicki Minaj about it.
fanboi <3
Say I had whispered "now could be a really good moment to grab Holland for you", and he had agreed and acted on that? The result would be the same. I mean, don't people do this shit all the time?
yes, of course, but that was a really obvious case, not least because Fanboi was about as discreet as Nicki Minaj about it.fanboi <3
Say I had whispered "now could be a really good moment to grab Holland for you", and he had agreed and acted on that? The result would be the same. I mean, don't people do this shit all the time?
If you had whispered that, there would have been no issue. Regardless of who gave him the idea, the act would still be one motivated by his own interest.
yes, of course, but that was a really obvious case, not least because Fanboi was about as discreet as Nicki Minaj about it.fanboi <3
Say I had whispered "now could be a really good moment to grab Holland for you", and he had agreed and acted on that? The result would be the same. I mean, don't people do this shit all the time?
Thanks for making me google that!
Too old for you
To ol fo yo.
Fake edit: even sounds like it could be a real existing slang
Fake edit 2: And I am fascinated that every one of those words contains an "o". I seem to be easily impressed today.
You and me baby, we are so on level breh.
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Sure! We have an agreement on a peace deal now, so there's no reason to suspect that one part will suddenly dishonor it
Haha, now this is good diplomacy, not the crap Robo made you do.
Scandinavia AAR
Took back the original Danish lands of Holstein and Slesvig from Hamburg and The Hansa and started colonization of North-America. Also, I found some natives and I decided to do the historical thing and declared a No-CB war on them. So now I have an uncorable province in somewhere near the current US-Canadian border. Oh well, as soon as my colonist finishes up New York I will probably be able to core it.
Also, I think I'm done in Europe, I don't really see any logical way to expand.
Took back the original Danish lands of Holstein and Slesvig from Hamburg and The Hansa and started colonization of North-America. Also, I found some natives and I decided to do the historical thing and declared a No-CB war on them. So now I have an uncorable province in somewhere near the current US-Canadian border. Oh well, as soon as my colonist finishes up New York I will probably be able to core it.
Also, I think I'm done in Europe, I don't really see any logical way to expand.
Oh Austria, you can be so amusing sometimes. Taking me on while I've got the BBB on my side? How do you like carpet sieges now, Habsburgs?
Well, that was a fun session. After fixing up the damage the AI had done to my country, I quickly swooped in and took the last remaining minor in the Balkans, Montenegro. I then noticed that Tuscany, who were busy being a pain, embargoing me, rivaling me etc, were allied with Hungary, a three province nation with 5k troops.
So plans were quickly put in motion, and after a deal was struck with our Polish friends, Venice declared war on Hungary and promptly marched into Tuscany. Our allies Ferrera got Modena, I got war reparations, and the Tuscan fleet lay at the bottom of the Tyrrhenian Sea. Result.
The Austrians then decided that this was a good time to strike against Venice, and rather promptly took their war goal of Lika. I was rather worried at this point, until I saw a French 30k stack marching towards Austria, with another 20k stack coming up right behind it. The Austrians were hunted down and wiped out to a man, and the carpet siege began. Venice did rather well from the peace treaty, gaining two provinces, uniting Venice's Italian and Balkan lands, as well as cutting Austria off from the sea. And that's where the night ended.
Next time, I'll have to avoid the coalition that's probably going to form against me, avoid the Ottomans, and somehow retake Brescia from those very annoying Milanese. Also, I'll have to build up my navy some more. I've only got the second biggest navy in the world now. Shameful.
Provinces Gained: Zeta, Gorz, Krain
Provinces Lost: None!
Well, that was a fun session. After fixing up the damage the AI had done to my country, I quickly swooped in and took the last remaining minor in the Balkans, Montenegro. I then noticed that Tuscany, who were busy being a pain, embargoing me, rivaling me etc, were allied with Hungary, a three province nation with 5k troops.
So plans were quickly put in motion, and after a deal was struck with our Polish friends, Venice declared war on Hungary and promptly marched into Tuscany. Our allies Ferrera got Modena, I got war reparations, and the Tuscan fleet lay at the bottom of the Tyrrhenian Sea. Result.
The Austrians then decided that this was a good time to strike against Venice, and rather promptly took their war goal of Lika. I was rather worried at this point, until I saw a French 30k stack marching towards Austria, with another 20k stack coming up right behind it. The Austrians were hunted down and wiped out to a man, and the carpet siege began. Venice did rather well from the peace treaty, gaining two provinces, uniting Venice's Italian and Balkan lands, as well as cutting Austria off from the sea. And that's where the night ended.
Next time, I'll have to avoid the coalition that's probably going to form against me, avoid the Ottomans, and somehow retake Brescia from those very annoying Milanese. Also, I'll have to build up my navy some more. I've only got the second biggest navy in the world now. Shameful.
Provinces Gained: Zeta, Gorz, Krain
Provinces Lost: None!
Mgoblue201
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That's a scary navy. My people have never even seen a boat before.
You shouldn't sail, you should walk into Anatolia instead. You're too powerful to not be at war with the Ottomans tbh.
Nah, Uzzy 5/5, Jazz 6/5.
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