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Evolve Big Alpha Impressions/bugs/glitches thread
- Thread starter Killer
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Does anyone actually enjoy not being able to select your class? I understand promoting queue times with preference among the hunters. But if you want to play the monster, you should be put in as the fucking monster. You shouldn't have to keep leaving games in order to get the role you want that is VERY different from the others.
You can try looking up their names on Steam.
Cancel and try again?
I forgot what it was unfortunately
I've gotten the monster almost every time from the find game menu when I put him as my first pick. If you're just coming out of a game where you played as monster and are still in the same lobby, then obviously you shouldn't expect to get it again if someone else changes their first choice to that role. The game will allow other players to play as monster if they're competing with you for the role, you can't expect to hog it the entire time.
One out of five times, fresh lobby, monster first preference.
opticalmace
Member
Pretty much. What a letdown.
Then something's wrong. You're not playing on PS4 are you?
ArkkAngel007
Member
Enjoyed the XBO version the other day, but haven't attempted the PS4.
Still, not surprising at the trouble of finding a match. Not only the screw up initially having probably turned off a ton of people, but the Alpha literally couldn't have been released at a worse time with much of the potential audience busy with the release of the most popular console mp franchise.
Outside of the load times, I'm a bit iffy on the leveling system in how matchmaking is currently structured. Perhaps the full game will take that into account, but there was plenty of talk even back at PAX about how weighted tiered teams can get against fresh ones.
Still, not surprising at the trouble of finding a match. Not only the screw up initially having probably turned off a ton of people, but the Alpha literally couldn't have been released at a worse time with much of the potential audience busy with the release of the most popular console mp franchise.
Outside of the load times, I'm a bit iffy on the leveling system in how matchmaking is currently structured. Perhaps the full game will take that into account, but there was plenty of talk even back at PAX about how weighted tiered teams can get against fresh ones.
im done till the release. Got up to level 24 all monster. Definitely in for the full game. A couple tweaks I think they should make:
Goliath:
- Change rock throw so that holding the button lets him hold the rock. Limit mobility while holding (no jumping or using other abilities).
- Fire breath should have knockback.
Kraken:
- Mines and aftermath cannot be used in air.
- In air ranged attack should use flight stamina so that flying and bombarding forever isnt allowed.
Goliath:
- Change rock throw so that holding the button lets him hold the rock. Limit mobility while holding (no jumping or using other abilities).
- Fire breath should have knockback.
Kraken:
- Mines and aftermath cannot be used in air.
- In air ranged attack should use flight stamina so that flying and bombarding forever isnt allowed.
lucky for u, still not working for me
They're not going to buff fire breath, they actually nerfed it after the last alpha. Before, you could melee attack and breathe fire at the same time meaning an almost guaranteed kill at close range.
Unless you mean it as a nerf because it would be annoying if they got knocked away from the flames.
I'd have to recheck but I could swear you could hold the rock already.
I haven't used aftermath much with Kraken but I think Aeriel mines are fine. They can just be shot out of the air anyway, and the lightning gun hitting the kraken also chains and breaks mines.
MichaelFassbender
Member
After playing the alpha, I found it's not my kind of game. Good to know!
bargeparty
Member
Literally the worst public alpha ever.
Programming is hard. And annoying.
I think you might actually be right.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Just played my first match as the Kraken.
Yeah...that's uhh, yeah, that's pretty OP.
Yeah...that's uhh, yeah, that's pretty OP.
ArkkAngel007
Member
Did you wire your GAF Gold payment directly to Bish?
VanCityGamer
Member
Can't believe the Alpha ends tomorrow and I haven't been able to play a SINGLE game due to the issues. Worst Alpha ever.
Train of Midnight
Banned
I got to lvl 17 in like one day, not sure how people aren't finding games.
ArkkAngel007
Member
Just started it up on PS4; It took about 5 minutes to get to the map loading page (Distillery). Took a minute for that to then load up and now waiting on players to load.
The Support and Monster players so far have been the major hold up in not starting the match.
Not quite as quick as XBO, but I was expecting that and I haven't tried XBO since COD launched.
The Support and Monster players so far have been the major hold up in not starting the match.
Not quite as quick as XBO, but I was expecting that and I haven't tried XBO since COD launched.
Depends on the platform. Sounds like it's been super fucked on PS4 even after the delay.
EventHorizon
Member
But these aren't the kinds of bugs an alpha/beta should be finding. You have to expect that players will actually be able to play your game. I'd expect that alphas/betas would be for things like balance testing, finding map bugs, graphical glitches... Basically annoying bugs that are hard to find.
Admittedly stress testing is part of that, which if problems arise can prevent the game from being played, but Evolve seems to be having problems at all times in the day. If the problem was stress related, you'd expect the issues to go away at night when fewer players were on.
I was thinking about this today, and while I can concede that matchmaking is hard to do, I don't understand why it's not a mostly solved problem by now. We've had working versions of match making in games for over a decade. Why aren't there industry best practices for how to do it? In addition, since match making is mostly server side (I assume), the code to do it is running on PCs and doesn't even have to change when consoles change.
In Turtle Rock's case, why couldn't they mostly use whatever match making code they were using for Left 4 Dead in Evolve. They should also also have a really good estimate on how much server and network hardware capacity they need to get it to work.
Well, somehow, after 20 minutes of waiting looking for a match i was able to get in one and now i've played 4/5 matches. We beat the Monster in the first match, but then were destroyed in the other 3/4.
The game is fun, but it really needs to improve the time it takes you to get from match to match. Also, Monster lvl 3 is waaay OP; tho, it was fun getting really close to defeating him even on level 3. I really liked the Trapper class.
lol
The game is fun, but it really needs to improve the time it takes you to get from match to match. Also, Monster lvl 3 is waaay OP; tho, it was fun getting really close to defeating him even on level 3. I really liked the Trapper class.
lol
BananasWithGuns
Member
Just had another strange glitch, apparently the monster was invisible and eventually the match just ended saying we killed it. Not sure what caused that but it was very strange.
Post game map showed it basically standing on top of us and following us around which explains why birds were just flying up right next to us. I guess it couldn't attack us either. Very, very odd bug.
Post game map showed it basically standing on top of us and following us around which explains why birds were just flying up right next to us. I guess it couldn't attack us either. Very, very odd bug.
This is actually a pretty common bug. It doesn't happen ALL the time, but it does happen enough.
It's not as simple as copying and pasting code. Plus they aren't just comparing player levels, they also have to check role preferences.
In this case though it's not really an issue with the coding, but with the servers. And that is what this alpha is for, not just balancing or bugs. This isn't a demo for us to have fun with. It's an early build designed to find flaws and we're doing just that.
Lavalamp1138
Member
Played my first match on PS4. I was the Medic. I was kinda worried at first cuz our support and assault were full steam ahead but the trapper didn't bother to keep up and needed to be revived once from the attacking wildlife. We were pretty split up and I felt like such easy prey, but the monster never capitalized on it. It actually tried evolving in front of us and pulled it off but we probably put the hurt on it. The trapper left and the AI took over, managed to lay down that dome thing, and we killed the monster. I actually had a lot of fun and I'm excited to try more of the game!
ArkkAngel007
Member
People are a lot more talkative on PS4 so far. No one in any of the XBO matches (4 or so) spoke, but first game one of the guys (Support maybe) and the monster in the post-game lobby were pretty chatty in a good way.
Medic is a beast, though I completely forgot about the Tranq gun. Probably could have had the beast down in 7 minutes otherwise.
Uh oh, now doing a monster virgin run.
Medic is a beast, though I completely forgot about the Tranq gun. Probably could have had the beast down in 7 minutes otherwise.
Uh oh, now doing a monster virgin run.
Managed to play some games.
Was Support for 2 or 3 games and I liked the class. I normally play medic but am not a fan of sniper rifles. The shield was actually fun and the barrage is a nice touch. I did quite well with the class.
Tried the Goliath once afterwards and was killed after some minutes. Tried to hide my steps in water, only to be slowed down because it was too deep. Got trapped in a canyon by the hunters and realized too late that I should have just smashed them instead of trying to escape, which wasn't possible due to the dome. Could have d a chance if I had fought because the hunters didn't work together well.
Because of that, I didn't really get an impression from the monster. Getting used to the controls and the feeding mechanic wasn't possible.
After that, I played the Trapper. Not sure about this class. Thought it would be cool but in the end the abilities were limited. Maybe it gets more interesting in a higher level.
So far, the games weren't that exciting. I was hyped after the first gameplay infos but now I am not sure about this game. The hunting mechanics weren't interesting. You just follow the footsteps and clues and have some skirmishes in which the monster kites until it can get to the power relay.
From the first previews, the wildlife sounded more interesting and dangerous while in the alpha it is negligible.
And in the end, the gameplay is probably too difficult to balance and will hinge too much on the individual players to be fun.
Was Support for 2 or 3 games and I liked the class. I normally play medic but am not a fan of sniper rifles. The shield was actually fun and the barrage is a nice touch. I did quite well with the class.
Tried the Goliath once afterwards and was killed after some minutes. Tried to hide my steps in water, only to be slowed down because it was too deep. Got trapped in a canyon by the hunters and realized too late that I should have just smashed them instead of trying to escape, which wasn't possible due to the dome. Could have d a chance if I had fought because the hunters didn't work together well.
Because of that, I didn't really get an impression from the monster. Getting used to the controls and the feeding mechanic wasn't possible.
After that, I played the Trapper. Not sure about this class. Thought it would be cool but in the end the abilities were limited. Maybe it gets more interesting in a higher level.
So far, the games weren't that exciting. I was hyped after the first gameplay infos but now I am not sure about this game. The hunting mechanics weren't interesting. You just follow the footsteps and clues and have some skirmishes in which the monster kites until it can get to the power relay.
From the first previews, the wildlife sounded more interesting and dangerous while in the alpha it is negligible.
And in the end, the gameplay is probably too difficult to balance and will hinge too much on the individual players to be fun.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
PS4 version is just so bad now. so many crashes
Rain City Gamer
Member
It's still available.
ArkkAngel007
Member
Even with the videos, especially with the Trapper and Monster, a lot of the nuances aren't communicated well at all.
Likely something that isn't an issue with the full game that will likely go step-by-step in the campaign matches/mode and have more options in providing that information in other areas, but it's completely lost in the Alpha.
3 straight matches so far on PS4 with no issues. Load times now pretty comparable to XBO. I make a terrible monster. Do everything right, but shit at the controls lol.
You just ran past a buff and attacked a huge creature.
Pro tip: Pick up buffs and don't attack wildlife unless you want to give the monster a free meal.
Pro tip #2: Sometimes it's ok to kill wildlife so you can plant mines under their corpses and use them as traps.
I've finally been able to play a good handful of games so far on PS4. I don't know why or how. Either way, I got all one stars for the Griffen character (the British trapper guy)! And he's pretty much what I thoughht he was...awesome.
...sadly however, I've been with pretty bad teammates who had no clue what they doing or where they going. I suck alone or as a leader so as a result, games would be long because the monster guy would just keep running away all game long while I try to run after him and the rest of the 2 or 3 even would run around in circles as if there heads were on fire.
GAF, when the game releases, play with me will ya? I need friends...and fun groups.
...sadly however, I've been with pretty bad teammates who had no clue what they doing or where they going. I suck alone or as a leader so as a result, games would be long because the monster guy would just keep running away all game long while I try to run after him and the rest of the 2 or 3 even would run around in circles as if there heads were on fire.
GAF, when the game releases, play with me will ya? I need friends...and fun groups.
chixdiggit
Member
Put in 9 hours on PC version.
I was not sold at all at first but the more I kept playing the more I liked it. Game really shines when everyone knows what they are doing and using teamwork.
I was not sold at all at first but the more I kept playing the more I liked it. Game really shines when everyone knows what they are doing and using teamwork.
Train of Midnight
Banned
This game is gonna have the same problem MOBA games have with high barriers to entry. Some people are going to have harder time picking it up than others.
Also, for a robot, Bucket is a sweet character has has a lot of it.
Also, for a robot, Bucket is a sweet character has has a lot of it.