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EW: Sean Bean on why Boromir is his favorite onscreen death
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I'm slightly bothered by the ordering of the years.
Beren the Empty-Handed
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Frodo was a good enough person to give it to someone he thought was better than him. Aragon was a good enough person to know that he wasn't.
It was his knowledge of what happened to Isildur, who had the best intentions, that gave Aragorn the strength to turn it down. Because there was no strength great enough to resist the Ring forever. Besides, Aragorn knew he was needed elsewhere, and he trusted Frodo to make it farther than anyone else could. He was right on all accounts.
Jackson, Walsh and Boyens' decision to move Boromir's death from the beginning TTT to the end of Fellowship was brilliant - and wonderfully executed.
And of course Howard Shore caps it all off.
And of course Howard Shore caps it all off.
The scene with a live orchestra.
If they ever do this anywhere near where you live, go to it. It's wonderful.
If they ever do this anywhere near where you live, go to it. It's wonderful.
Netherscourge
Banned
Liam Neeson would have been a good Elrond.
I like Hugo Weaving, but he's too imposing for Elrond.
I like Hugo Weaving, but he's too imposing for Elrond.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Facts.
LordKasual
Banned
It was my favorite death too. It was just so tragic.
It really sucked to see such a good guy get so easily corrupted, then he became self-aware of it, and then died during his redemption
but in the end, you could really tell he was for the greater good. The ring was just too stronk
It really sucked to see such a good guy get so easily corrupted, then he became self-aware of it, and then died during his redemption
but in the end, you could really tell he was for the greater good. The ring was just too stronk
timetokill
Banned
I just didn't like how that scene was done, and how easily Aragorn turned it away. But at any rate, I love the movie so whatever
It's been ages since I read the books, but I don't think Elrond was ever supposed to be an unintimidating guy. He's literally a 3000-year-old elf lord who wields one of the VERY few good rings of power. He'd be one of the final defenders of the world if Sauron won.
Monocle
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Good choice.
He was around for part of The Silmarillion. Just about all of the elves from that collection of stories are ridiculous badasses. Dude is no joke.
peanutbutterlatte
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Elrond was perhaps a little too antagonistic towards Aragon. Dude was his adopted son essentially, and he gives him way too much shit in the films.
I feel like after all the shit he's seen and realizing he's basically living to see the end of the existence of his people in middle Earth and his only child made mortal for some northern scrub would make him kinda dower when some stoned ass wizard brings a another fucking furry footed halfling to his house chased by some zombie Kings directed by an ancient demigod antagonist that almost enslaved your people 3000 years ago before some stupid human moron refused to destroy his source of power and who's Descendent by the way your daughter had the hots for.
Monocle
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Maybe, but Aragorn was essentially asking to ruin Arwen's vast lifespan by having her stay by his side rather than departing for Valinor with her people. When he dies, she'll have nothing left but grief. Elrond knew the cost.
moustascheman
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Yeah I've always felt that Elrond was way too intimidating. I remember him being described as the complete opposite in the books.
Admiral Woofington
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of course it's his favorite death
he dies in one movie and every character wont stop mentioning him for like every other film lmao. Though to be fair another role of his is similar, but isn't as heroic.
he dies in one movie and every character wont stop mentioning him for like every other film lmao. Though to be fair another role of his is similar, but isn't as heroic.
Evil John Locke
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I just realized that when (and I hope it doesn't happen for a long, long time, I love him as an actor and I'm sure he's a fine man) Sean Bean dies it's going to be kind of hilarious.
Edit: ah I see a picture has already been posted to that effect
Edit: ah I see a picture has already been posted to that effect
Monocle
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CrazyDiamond
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Boromir's sacrifice is this grand and badass scene that I could watch over and over. Ned's death on the other hand was very hard to watch.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
Boromir would have tried to use the ring. That's who Boromir is. His value comes in knowing what he is which is a flawed man who would have tried to use the ring because he is weak that way. He shines because that same weakness is why he sacrifices himself.
For me it's when the third arrow hits, he goes to his knees again, and Howard Shore is there with that incredible music cue, and the Uruks just walk past him like he's nothing.
I never realized that. Will have to look out for that next time I watch the trilogy. Been a long time since I read the books as well but does that happen there as well?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Yeah. That's the heartbreaker. That's when the inevitability of it all really settles in.
Goddamn.
This really is a scene that sears itself into your memory. Sean is amazing in this movie-and this is right after the scene where he "snaps out of it" with Frodo and he realizes what he's done-and he kind of cries and says "Frodo?" Heartbreaking.
And then seeing Merry and Pippin's reaction to his death. Brutal.
And then seeing Merry and Pippin's reaction to his death. Brutal.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
"They took the little ones."
AntraxSuicide
Banned
Not to get off track, but I've never understood how other people around middle earth casually know about the one ring, but the possibility never struck Gandalf all those years...
Too much pipe weed
SolidChamp
Banned
One of the most affecting and cinematic deaths in movie history.
Fellowship's status as a classic masterpiece is owed to incredible scenes like this one.
onken
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This. Amazing performance by an amazing actor.
DrForester
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Nonsense. Look at that friendly face.
David Bowie wanted to play Elrond...
Movie Elrond was an asshole, which is definitely different from his portrayal in the books. They obviously did it because they wanted him to play the voice of "humans were a mistake" until his face turn in RotK.
So Agent Smith but good
Captain Zyrain
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Of course the FOTR is the best.
Though I did like how he went out in Equilibrium.
"Tread softly, for you tread on my dreams"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=os2Z_Ekg-dM
Though I did like how he went out in Equilibrium.
"Tread softly, for you tread on my dreams"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=os2Z_Ekg-dM
Zoe
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Well for me the cartoons messed with my perception of the character. He was portrayed as gentle and wise in those.
Beren the Empty-Handed
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I just didn't like how that scene was done, and how easily Aragorn turned it away. But at any rate, I love the movie so whatever
Ah, yeah I could see that. Might have been a pacing issue.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Boromir is a tragic character because he knows the right thing to do and wants to do it, but the One Ring is slowly eating at him. He is trying to resist it but he can't. Then when Frodo escapes and Boromir cracks and starts to cry, he knows he fucked up.
Each time I saw it in theaters people laugh at Boromir slipping and crying "Frodo, in sorry!"
But that is so sad because it is the moment he realizes his soul has broken. And also why the moment he runs to rescue Merry and Pippen works so well.
He knows he fucked up royally, and he will not let it happen again. As he cuts his way through Uruk Hai, he is battling for his soul. He is trying to redeem himself in his own eyes.
The EE makes it even better with the new music and more Uruk Hai falling to his blade. Even Merry and Pip help him.
And in the moment he reclaims his soul and redeems himself, he gets shot with an arrow. But he still won't stop.
Boromir's death is also the point where Aragorn knows what he must do. Seeing this once again noble warrior die before him, Aragorn comforts him. "I swear to you, I will not let the white city fall. Nor our people fail."
The EE also adds one line for Aragorn which elevates the emotion after Boromir's death.
"They will look to his coming from the white tower, but he will not return."
Fuck. I always save these films for my annual December marathon, but might hit them this weekend.
Each time I saw it in theaters people laugh at Boromir slipping and crying "Frodo, in sorry!"
But that is so sad because it is the moment he realizes his soul has broken. And also why the moment he runs to rescue Merry and Pippen works so well.
He knows he fucked up royally, and he will not let it happen again. As he cuts his way through Uruk Hai, he is battling for his soul. He is trying to redeem himself in his own eyes.
The EE makes it even better with the new music and more Uruk Hai falling to his blade. Even Merry and Pip help him.
And in the moment he reclaims his soul and redeems himself, he gets shot with an arrow. But he still won't stop.
Boromir's death is also the point where Aragorn knows what he must do. Seeing this once again noble warrior die before him, Aragorn comforts him. "I swear to you, I will not let the white city fall. Nor our people fail."
The EE also adds one line for Aragorn which elevates the emotion after Boromir's death.
"They will look to his coming from the white tower, but he will not return."
Fuck. I always save these films for my annual December marathon, but might hit them this weekend.
OricWindstar
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Maaaaaaaaaaaan, that would have ruled.
Dunedain_Ranger
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I loved his scenes in two towers extended beautiful work man I need to watch them tomorrow
PhoncipleBone
Banned
The added scene with him in Two Towers EE completely re shaped Faramir in the films. It put everything in a different perspective.
That scene also reminds me, I love how Howard Shore subtly put in the Gondor theme in each film, slowly building to its grand unveiling in ROTK. One of those touches I love upon rewatching.
Megalosaro
Banned
Arwen isn't Elrond's only child lol
I still can't get over the fact that when the main Uruk throws that dagger at Aragorn he actually slipped on his throw and threw the damn thing at Viggo, who like a fucking boss, reacts and knocks it away.
Or how Viggo later breaks his foot when he kicks a helmet but rolls with it, adding an emotional weight to a scene that otherwise might not have had it.
I'm also convinced that Peter Jackson was trying to kill the poor guy, lol.
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