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Ex-KGB chief suspected of helping compile Trump/Russia dossier found dead

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water_wendi

Water is not wet!
Shit. This is very concerning.

And the threshold for carrying out something like that is so simple you and anyone reading this can start doing this in about 5 minutes with no cost or risk. Now thats only a single alternative online persona but marketing professionals have software that co-ordinates user accounts so you can make the poster seem more authentic (fake user name, photos, hobbies, etc) and to minimize posting an opinion under the wrong account. ive heard the software can manage upwards of 20 different posters with ease so if a state were to dedicate even a minuscule amount of people to that task such propaganda could have far reaching influence.
 
One of the many things that I wish voters had caught on to before the election was that Jill Stein was getting support from Putin. Hell, she even appeared on Russian TV a few times and kissed ass talking about how much they "respect civil rights".

Russia was banking on third-party candidates to mess things up for Hilary, and sure enough.
Hahaha damn. I think I recall someone posting here that Stein had stocks in the industries that she rails against, which was a red flag for me. Didn't know about the Putin connection.
And the threshold for carrying out something like that is so simple you and anyone reading this can start doing this in about 5 minutes with no cost or risk. Now thats only a single alternative online persona but marketing professionals have software that co-ordinates user accounts so you can make the poster seem more authentic (fake user name, photos, hobbies, etc) and to minimize posting an opinion under the wrong account. ive heard the software can manage upwards of 20 different posters with ease so if a state were to dedicate even a minuscule amount of people to that task such propaganda could have far reaching influence.
The political game has changed forever. Lol when I first got the internet 20 years ago, my naive highschool self predicted that the internet would make voters smarter. This one-sided election hacking is messed up. Now that people are raised with the internet I can see future candidates, who've been online since they were kids, having their posting history dug up.
 

BowieZ

Banned
Holy shit.

Could just be a total coincidence, but:

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...ver-russia-money-laundering-claims?CMP=twt_gu

Deutsche Bank has been fined nearly $630m over alleged money laundering in Russia worth $10bn.

New York and British authorities issued the fine on Monday over claims the money was moved out of Russia using so-called mirror trades among the bank's Moscow, London and New York offices, said New York State's Department of Financial Services (DFS).

The US Department of Justice also is investigating the matter.


And how it might relate to the earlier mysterious Rosneft deal (involving the QHG Cayman Limited company on the Cayman Islands) --

https://www.ft.com/content/d3923b08-bf09-11e6-9bca-2b93a6856354

Under the structure of the deal, Qatar will invest €2.5bn and Glencore €300m for equal stakes in the a special purpose vehicle that is buying a 19.5 per cent stake in Rosneft from its government-owned parent company Rosneftegaz.

Italy's Intesa Sanpaolo will provide the ”bulk" of the debt financing for the remainder of the €10.2bn deal, according to Rosneft, but Russian banks will also be ”providing financing and credit support", Glencore said.

Glencore said that in addition to the €300m it would invest in the vehicle, it would provide a further €1.4bn in ”margin guarantees" that would offer protection to the consortium of lenders against a large fall in the value of the Rosneft shares.

However, this €1.4bn would be fully indemnified by ”appropriate Russian banks", Glencore said. The deal is structured ”like an LBO [leveraged buyout]," a Rosneft source said. ”Glencore will hedge the main part of its stake."

Rosneft said that the sale of the shares for €10.2bn — a 5 per cent discount to their market price on the day before the deal was announced — would result in a 692bn rouble transfer to the Russian budget, and that Rosneftegaz, its parent company, would pay a special dividend of 18bn roubles, for a total payment to the government of 710.8bn roubles ($11.1bn), to be completed by mid-December.

The government in November had ordered the Rosneft shares to be sold for not less than 710.8bn roubles.

Rosneft may use some of the proceeds of a recent 600bn rouble bond sale to make the payment to the budget, the source at the company said, keeping the foreign currency for use in its international activities in order to minimise the impact on the Russian currency market.

Approximately €10 billion is also approximately US$10 billion.


I didn't want to start a new thread yet, of course, until some further light can be shed on the matter. And this seemed like the most relevant, recent thread at the minute. I mean, it might just be your everyday Russian Mafia money laundering. Or it could be a big international conspiracy. We'll see!

More here: https://www.ft.com/content/5bc8008a-e722-11e6-967b-c88452263daf
and here: http://www.businessinsider.com.au/d...es-uk-fca-new-york-regulator-2017-1?r=UK&IR=T
 
The 10 billion was liberation of oligarch money by matched share transactions: buy shares in Moscow sell same amount in New York for USD, all handled by those smooth German private bankers, very discreet.
 

mnz

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Book published in 1997.

Everything thats in there is happening now.
Yeah the thing with it is that the internet really helps push some of these described conflicts.
Imagine being Ukraine and having much greater Russian influence and an even harder time to uncover such operations.
 
Holy shit.

Could just be a total coincidence, but:

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...ver-russia-money-laundering-claims?CMP=twt_gu




And how it might relate to the earlier mysterious Rosneft deal (involving the QHG Cayman Limited company on the Cayman Islands) --

https://www.ft.com/content/d3923b08-bf09-11e6-9bca-2b93a6856354



Approximately €10 billion is also approximately US$10 billion.


I didn't want to start a new thread yet, of course, until some further light can be shed on the matter. And this seemed like the most relevant, recent thread at the minute. I mean, it might just be your everyday Russian Mafia money laundering. Or it could be a big international conspiracy. We'll see!

More here: https://www.ft.com/content/5bc8008a-e722-11e6-967b-c88452263daf
and here: http://www.businessinsider.com.au/d...es-uk-fca-new-york-regulator-2017-1?r=UK&IR=T

Pure conjecture. Intesa financed the majority of deal with VTB providing bridge loan to full amount in exchange for shares as collateral. DB was not mentioned anywhere.
 

BowieZ

Banned
Pure conjecture. Intesa financed the majority of deal with VTB providing bridge loan to full amount in exchange for shares as collateral. DB was not mentioned anywhere.
Intesa could funnel bonds/funds/whatever through to people at Deutsche.

There are connections.

http://www.intesasanpaolobank.al/web/Correspondent_Banks.php

CORRESPONDENT BANKS
For U.S. Dollars:
Intesa Sanpaolo spa New York,USA
JPMorgan Chase Bank, New York, U.S.A.
Deutsche Bank Trust Company Americas, New York, U.S.A.

https://www.bourse.lu/instrument/bond/summary?cdTypeVal=OBL&cdVal=226771
https://www.thecerbatgem.com/2016/1...esa-sanpaolo-spa-isp-a-2-80-price-target.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=2827228

Deutsche Bank Trust Company Americas provides commercial banking services. Its services include accepting deposits, offering loans and financing.
The company was formerly known as Bankers Trust Company and changed its name to Deutsche Bank Trust Company Americas in April, 2002.
The company was founded in 1903 and is based in New York, New York.
Deutsche Bank Trust Company Americas operates as a subsidiary of Deutsche Bank Trust Corporation.
Deutsche Bank Trust Company Americas Key Developments
Samson Resources Corp. Unsecured Creditors Look to Sue JPMorgan Chase Bank NA and Deutsche Bank Trust Co. Americas
Aug 17 16
Phoenix New Media Announces Change of Depositary for its ADR Program

http://www.group.intesasanpaolo.com...df?id=CNT-04-000000001CA47&ct=application/pdf
http://www.group.intesasanpaolo.com...df?id=CNT-04-000000001CA52&ct=application/pdf

http://www.tchannualconference.com/speakers/?speaker=Francesca-Carlesi
http://www.thepworld.com/event/the-international-retail-banking-forum-tbilisi
https://translate.google.com.au/tra...tps://ru.linkedin.com/in/ivanovnv&prev=search
 
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