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eXeem has been released!
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i think this is the idea. There's a few levels of decentralization which basically move different parts of the process (IP lists, hash info, etc.) from one server and spread it to multiple servers, or even to clients. i think we may be a ways off from true decentralization given the sole fact that it would be extremely resource intensive for every client to have all the information of the other clients on the network.border said:
AFAIK, eXeem simply removed the need for trackers, which were supposedly the last major hurdle in decentralizing the Biettorrent network. Suprnova's went down because it was acting as a gobetween for the tracker, pointing people to files, and incurring the wrath of potentially millions of users. i'm not sure what data eXeem needs from a central server though.
So far it's kind of a mess. There's like a billion files with only 1 seed and no downloaders, and a handful of files with multiple downloaders. It's a bit too much like Kazaa where everybody has a bunch of files with poor desriptions.
I searched for "Simpsons" and only turned up 3 episodes of the Simpsons. Searched for "Aqua" and got a 1 seed/no downloader torrent for Aqua Teen Hunger Force......and sadly no results for the European techno-pop band. :lol
And there's no search category for PORN or COMICS. Suprnova never had porn previously so that kinda makes sense, but they ought to have comics!
I searched for "Simpsons" and only turned up 3 episodes of the Simpsons. Searched for "Aqua" and got a 1 seed/no downloader torrent for Aqua Teen Hunger Force......and sadly no results for the European techno-pop band. :lol
And there's no search category for PORN or COMICS. Suprnova never had porn previously so that kinda makes sense, but they ought to have comics!
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There is a search option for porn. Its under "Adult" in the catagory toolbar, silly!
Hmm. Seems alright. Hopefully the # files will pick up.
Some questions though:
-is there anything that forces users to share/seed? (e.g. do you have to maintain an upload ratio?) If not, what will prevent this from turning into a Kazaa?
-I like the original Suprnova because it allowed me to browse files - this one only seems to have a Search function. Is there anyway to just browse everything, by category?
Some questions though:
-is there anything that forces users to share/seed? (e.g. do you have to maintain an upload ratio?) If not, what will prevent this from turning into a Kazaa?
-I like the original Suprnova because it allowed me to browse files - this one only seems to have a Search function. Is there anyway to just browse everything, by category?
Well the whole concept of it seems whack.
Why not stick to TorrentSpy, and Shareaza? Browse to your hearts content in TS, and use Shareaza (or any other client, but I like Shareaza's detail network info)...
Essentially I'm wondering what eXeem offers, that Suprnova/TorrentSpy doesn't.
my ideal hope for exeem is that it becomes a place that includes all the torrents on suprnova/torrentspy/animesuki and every other places and puts them all in a nice searchable area that won't be taken down whenever a company gets mad at them.
One irritating aspect with torrent files is often times you will want to find something, and know its out there somewhere, but it just hasn't been posted on whatever trackers you happen to know about.
Basically, at the moment I have like 5 or so torrent places I often go to, and it would be nice to just have the content of all 5 lumped into 1 location that won't be taken down.
One irritating aspect with torrent files is often times you will want to find something, and know its out there somewhere, but it just hasn't been posted on whatever trackers you happen to know about.
Basically, at the moment I have like 5 or so torrent places I often go to, and it would be nice to just have the content of all 5 lumped into 1 location that won't be taken down.
Mike Works
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So can someone post a link to the better version to download?
Phoenix
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How decentralized networks work
Initially all clients go through this discovery process where they find the main server and a set of peers who share a replicated database. The next time they need to find the network they don't need to go through the central server, they can go through their client list and learn about other clients from other clients who are online. As such they can construct a web over time from the clients that are online. In rather short order there are a considerable number of machines known to the web such that the network itself acts as a look up server. Logging into a non central node simply results in your nodes information being copied to other machines in the web. Nodes that aren't active eventually get 'timed-out' from the web in a least recently used manner.
As such outside of some rather severe issues, you can find at least one connection point to the network and from there learn about other machines on the network. This is similar to how P2P networks actually find out about content (i.e. there isn't one central server that holds a list of all of the files in the P2P network). You ask one machine for certain files, and its asks its friends, and they ask their friends and so on and so on and so on
Initially all clients go through this discovery process where they find the main server and a set of peers who share a replicated database. The next time they need to find the network they don't need to go through the central server, they can go through their client list and learn about other clients from other clients who are online. As such they can construct a web over time from the clients that are online. In rather short order there are a considerable number of machines known to the web such that the network itself acts as a look up server. Logging into a non central node simply results in your nodes information being copied to other machines in the web. Nodes that aren't active eventually get 'timed-out' from the web in a least recently used manner.
As such outside of some rather severe issues, you can find at least one connection point to the network and from there learn about other machines on the network. This is similar to how P2P networks actually find out about content (i.e. there isn't one central server that holds a list of all of the files in the P2P network). You ask one machine for certain files, and its asks its friends, and they ask their friends and so on and so on and so on
Phoenix said:How decentralized networks work
Initially all clients go through this discovery process where they find the main server and a set of peers who share a replicated database. The next time they need to find the network they don't need to go through the central server, they can go through their client list and learn about other clients from other clients who are online. As such they can construct a web over time from the clients that are online. In rather short order there are a considerable number of machines known to the web such that the network itself acts as a look up server. Logging into a non central node simply results in your nodes information being copied to other machines in the web. Nodes that aren't active eventually get 'timed-out' from the web in a least recently used manner.
As such outside of some rather severe issues, you can find at least one connection point to the network and from there learn about other machines on the network. This is similar to how P2P networks actually find out about content (i.e. there isn't one central server that holds a list of all of the files in the P2P network). You ask one machine for certain files, and its asks its friends, and they ask their friends and so on and so on and so on
I had kinda considered that but it seemed rather resource intensive at times. Like how can you guarantee that you will find a given file? You ask all users your computer knows, and they ask all of their's? So every single time someone that knows your computer does a search your computer has to send a message to everyone on your user list?
And what if it somehow happens that a user becomes a piepline of sorts. Like two large groups of people that have completely unique people with 1 person in common.
Mike Works said:
what do you mean better version? There is exeem lite in the 2nd or 3rd post of this thread, and there is exeem at exeem.com
Phoenix
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slayn said:
P2P networks DON'T guarantee that you find a given file in an amount of time. In fact when you watch the search results build up what you are watching is various nodes in the network alerting you that your search turned up results at their node.
Pretty much. You can actually measure the popularity of various search topics yourself by watching the traffic that passes through your machine (if your client allows this).
Doesn't happen. There is never (for long) exactly one connection between any set of people unless the network is REALLY small. What you're doing is building one very large connected graph over time where any machine that you learn about for any reason becomes another node in your graph.
So lets say we're all nodes in the graph. I ask you to find homoerotic star trek images. You don't have any so you ferry the request to someone else and that person does. I now have two connections for my next querry: you and trekpornboy33. As such my web continues to grow just by using the network.
I dunno, I guess it just works out in practice, but in just imagining it I would just think such a system would easily break apart into separate unconnected graphs. Like 4 graphs that, once the central link is pulled, would no longer be connected to each other. And because there would not be an edge between any two nodes in those separate graphs there would be no way to ever search the other group's files.
Perhaps that just a worst case scenario that never actually occurs.
Perhaps that just a worst case scenario that never actually occurs.
BigJonsson
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eXeem is kicking ass right now
4.71 TERRABYTES shared as of now
4.71 TERRABYTES shared as of now
Phoenix
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slayn said:
Its because you assume that the central node retains relevance as the graph grows. As the graph grows the central node just becomes another node (or set of nodes for most bootleg networks) in the graph. You connecting to my machine or any other machine gives you the same functionality as if you'd connected to the central node. Distributed networks have to be killed early or blanketed with a large number of 'false' nodes in order to be disrupted. MPAA and RIAA haven't been employing the best strategies to take down distributed networks but they can indeed be knocked out as well.
I'm impressed. I haven't done any file sharing since the early days of napster. So far, there is a good selection on eXeem and speeds have been decent. I like that you can sort the search by number of seeds. Will help you find what is popular and you'll also get it downloaded faster.
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Sold!
Or rather given away, completely free.
Or rather given away, completely free.
.18 is running fine for me... I think the trick is that in order for the file to be qued (sp?) up in the transfer area, it has to have at least one seed and maybe even a downloader. If the files you're looking at have no seeds, then they can't be assigned a tracker and won't know where to look for it..
JoshuaJSlone
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I keep getting "node request failed". Thought it might be a proxy thing, but it's acting the same whether told to use it or not.
Mike Works
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So does this work for anyone? Whenever I get a new program, the first thing I always try to download is Metallica music, and I ain't getting anything here.
JoshuaJSlone
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HAMike Works said:
Yeah, it eventually began working for me. Wasn't getting a ton of results, though.
For anyone that has experienced the "resetting computer" bug that occurs in some network cards when you try to download torrents, does the same happen when you try to download stuff in Exeem? Even after patching and driver erasing constantly, my comp resets every time I try to download anything bigger than 30MB
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