diffusionx
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Face masks considerably reduce COVID-19 cases in Germany - 20 days after becoming mandatory masks reduce infections by 45% at zero economic cost
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cryptoadam
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So why Germany has 23 591 cases today? And 438 deaths.
Oh its all the dumb hicks who love Trump in Germany that are getting sick because they angered the COVID face mask gods and are being punished for their sins.
Nah how about this, put down the ding dongs fatty and get some exercise. Fat people get sicker and die more so we don't need face masks we need muzzles on any fatties to stop them from eating and clogging up the hospitals.
Oh its all the dumb hicks who love Trump in Germany that are getting sick because they angered the COVID face mask gods and are being punished for their sins.
Nah how about this, put down the ding dongs fatty and get some exercise. Fat people get sicker and die more so we don't need face masks we need muzzles on any fatties to stop them from eating and clogging up the hospitals.
Ionian
Member
It acted quicker. I also recommend Google for your home work.
What you said was nonsense.
diffusionx
Gold Member
No it didn't. Cases were discovered around the same time in Europe and US, and lockdowns happened at right around the same time, the second and third weeks of March.
TrafalgarLaw
Banned
Oh look, it's the conspiracy nutjob from the pandemic thread showing up. Thank you for your wise words, now crawl back to your tin foil hat meetings please.
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arkhamguy123
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Trust me friend I know, I've been on lock since march and I'm suffering massively mental health wise. But I'm a fitness freak so I just dont wanna roll the dice with any long term shortness of breath as I sprint miles 4-5 days a week every week for the past 4 years and have a really good physique. But its a trade off no doubt. I'm a shell of what I was socially before march.
cryptoadam
Banned
What conspiracy?
Thats Germanys case count today.
Fat people to get sick more and do die more.
No tin foil hat needed.
Ionian
Member
Sure thing dude! I hope you get internet soon, it's pretty useful.
Kinda has histortical documents and shit, totally gnarly stuff.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Sure thing dude! I hope you get internet soon, it's pretty useful.
Kinda has histortical documents and shit, totally gnarly stuff.
UK lockdown March 20: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/20/coronavirus-uk-pm-announces-lockdown-measures-in-london.html
Germany lockdown begin March 19: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...e-lockdown-today-bavaria-latest-a9413746.html
US lockdowns begin March 20: https://nypost.com/2020/03/20/coron...lockdown-shuts-down-non-essential-businesses/
France lockdown begins March 17: https://www.france24.com/en/2020031...orce-in-bid-to-curtail-spread-of-deadly-virus
Spain lockdown begins March 14: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-set-to-order-nationwide-coronavirus-lockdown
Please, if you want to discuss, more facts less snark that makes you look like an idiot
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Birgitte2004-2
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The US Banned travel from China within days of when Europe did. Similar for lockdowns. The EU is the only region besides South America which has countries which have had worse death rates than the US, including the UK, Italy, Spain, and Belgium.
All you have is the typical European ignorance that always shows up when the US is mentioned.
TrafalgarLaw
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You're purposefully steering the discussion into unrelated territory. The onus shouldn't be on people losing weight but people and governments taking responsibility in taking the necessary precautions in minimizing a pandemic. The thread is about mandatory masks proving to be beneficial. How are the numbers of Germany have to do with any of this? Germany was doing well until a conspiracy-minded portion of the population and irresponsible people decided to go anti-mask.
Ionian
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You found the internet, thank God. Disproves your point as well.
Ionian
Member
You didn't bother to read my answer to a specific quote.
Stouffers
Banned
no one wants to see your slimysnake.
Liu Kang filing his 1040
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Everybody knows the risks of Covid-19 and should be able to assume them if they want.
Are you obese and sickly and you don't want Covid-19 to kill you? Stay the fuck home.
But I'm not obese or sickly and I'd prefer to keep my small business afloat.
Tyranny sucks and the "grandmother killer" line is stupid because your grandmother can just take added precautions.
Are you obese and sickly and you don't want Covid-19 to kill you? Stay the fuck home.
But I'm not obese or sickly and I'd prefer to keep my small business afloat.
Tyranny sucks and the "grandmother killer" line is stupid because your grandmother can just take added precautions.
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cryptoadam
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Ok so all the cases are caused by the conspiracy people not wearing masks. Only the non mask wearers are getting sick got it.
Consider the title of the thread includes the word GERMANY, I took a look at Germany's cases. I think it would be relevant to look at how the country is doing.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
We are surrounded by technologies that facilitate communication and interaction, the problem is that most people seem unable how to parse out the negative from the positive in this sphere.
Minimize the negative, accentuate the positive. Phone a friend or relative. Use the opportunity to do something constructive physically and/or mentally. Learn how to deal with the situation without dissolving into a hysterical puddle. Do something pro-social, wearing a mask and maintaining distance needn't hold you back from that because there are plenty of people out there who have to incorporate these restrictions into their work routines. Look at it as an opportunity to show your sense of civic duty, people will reciprocate positively.
Stop shrieking about politics, its still shit sandwich versus giant douche, same as ever. Stop scouring the internet and collecting injustices, you are just buying into a slanted, illusory reality, same deal with obsessively following the MSM. Its all a money-machine that runs on misery and negativity.
Most of all don't demand perfect success all the time for yourself in what I described above. It doesn't have to be absolute; success and failure alike are way more manageable in moderation. The realistic goal is balance, not nirvana. Do not give in to fear or berate yourself for your failings and weakness.
Its alright to get knocked down, so long as you get up again afterwards.
This year has been a shit-show for sure, and yes, the authorities and the media have let us down. But, that's no excuse for us to let ourselves and the people around us down too. And no, that's not a call to militancy, protesting during a pandemic is the epitome of retardation. Its doesn't help, even if it is a convenient distraction/opportunity to break the rules.
Not trying to sermonize, its all obvious stuff. The point is though that some people are just wallowing in negativity, and thats just no use in tough times.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Those technologies are all phony shit, it is not a substitute for the real thing, not even 1/100th. I got the invite for the "zoom holiday party", eh fuck off.
Hundreds of millions of people being forced by the government to be alone and separated from their real lives and normal human interaction is going to cause massive problems, period. You cannot blame individual people for struggling with this, or just telling them to go on a fucking zoom call. It is a collective problem, because we are being forced to act in these unnatural and inhuman ways. Everyone is doing the best they can, but the psychological pressures and stress are very real. And it's not adults only, I read an article about how much children are struggling with this as well.
Again, there's a reason why jails punish people with isolation. It is because isolation is abnormal. Whenever I see something like somebody getting into a fight because of mask usage in a store, my first thought is, well this fucking covid hoax, the constant fear and restrictions, is driving them insane.
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Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Hey bro you're just not tough enough. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps, bro.
TaylorSwiftFan
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Wasn’t there a peer-reviewed study recently that showed that masks don’t work?
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
If you are only using it for a few minutes it is different to people who use public transport or, much worse, work in retail or similar and need to wear one for hours on end.
Insane Metal
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Oh no. Some people won't like this.
ManofOne
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Didn’t see the study mention seasonality. Can someone correct me on this? For example most countries saw cases fall regardless of mask mandate or not after a certain period and saw cases spike regardless of mask mandate.
Seasonal flu patterns correlated with covid spikes..... that data had significant R^2. Just checking to see if this study controlled for that.
Seasonal flu patterns correlated with covid spikes..... that data had significant R^2. Just checking to see if this study controlled for that.
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Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
It does not, but it compares several regions with differing begin rules for the mask rules.
Stouffers
Banned
That was a Pier1-reviewed study.
ManofOne
Plus Member
Then the study makes no sense then. You have to control for specific environmental factors that could affect the outcome. Seasonality is very important aspect of that. It’s the same for how COVID deaths are being reported.
listen I wear a mask and I think everyone should too but people shouldnot be throwing incomplete studies around just for the purpose of proving the other side wrong.
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Yoboman
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Masks are like seatbelts, if you have 1 crash in your lifetime that seatbelt could save your life. If you have 50 car crashes, you'll probably die
Masks are necessary but when covid rates are sky high it can only do so much, the more people you're exposed to the higher the chance you'll still get it despite a mask
Masks are necessary but when covid rates are sky high it can only do so much, the more people you're exposed to the higher the chance you'll still get it despite a mask
Hnjohngalt
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This sums up my feelings
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KingdomHeartsFan
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I have been working in a hospital this whole time and been in front of hundreds of patients, never got sick once because I take the proper precautions. My mask/face shield have probably prevented me from getting covid a dozen times. I dare one of the anti-mask retards on this site to explain how covid is not running rampant in healthcare workers if our preventative measures like our masks don't work.
cryptoadam
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You said it yourself, you wear a face shield. I bet you probably wear gloves and scrubs too. Most likely you don't wear the same mask every day for weeks on end, picking it up from the floor of your car. Also you probably wash your hands often, like all the time, and don't wear your mask on your chin and touch it a million times.
Now go look at people out and about wearing 5 cent china masks or pieces of cloth. Probably the same mask they have been wearing for months. half the time it probably sits on their chin and since they have their magic bullet they don't wash hands or social distance anymore because they have their super mask.
Yes if you kit up like you are in a hospital the mask will help, but importantly you need to wash hands and try and SD as much as possible. But people in the general public don't act like medical professionals when it comes to masks.
KingdomHeartsFan
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That has nothing to do with whether masks are effective or not. You can't use human behavior as an excuse to say a preventative tool is useless. Just cause some idiot itches his eyes without washing his hands gets covid that doesn't mean his mask is useless.
cryptoadam
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We have the Danish study that shows they aren't effective and we have real world results that they don't show results. The fact that yes people don't use them properly does make them "useless". Its why Fauci said on Feb 17th that people shouldn't wear masks because they provide a false sense of security and people spread schmutz around.
Its like saying that Condoms are effective so then I wear it on my head. Of course how you use the mask and what type of mask you use makes a huge difference.
Universal masking was not recommended by anyone up until June or so. Until then the consensus was universal masking doesn't have much of a benefit outside of acting as a symbol, and can actually spread the virus more.
Where I live we have had a mask mandate since July 18th. Before then our cases dropped from a high and epicenter of Canada to about 20 or less a day. This was from May till July. Then we started to mask up and cases started to rise and now we are back to where we were at square one. So how did cases drop with no masks, and then increase with masks? Before mask mandate it was probably like 20% people with masks by my eye. Now its like 100%. I have yet to see someone indoors without a mask or refusing to wear a mask.
Joe T.
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Masks, like lock downs, get implemented right after positive test results plateau and start trending downward. This gives people the false impression they're working to mitigate the spread because the government and news never bring up that inconvenient fact. It's happened all around the world and every single time the "experts" fail to mention the link.
I could literally go on national TV, tell the country that masturbating will improve your resistance to covid, start progressively cutting down tests per day and sell the world on the idea it's the reason covid infections are down. It's sad how easy people are fooled today.
I could literally go on national TV, tell the country that masturbating will improve your resistance to covid, start progressively cutting down tests per day and sell the world on the idea it's the reason covid infections are down. It's sad how easy people are fooled today.
KingdomHeartsFan
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You don't push the narrative that a tool is useless because some people are dumbasses and don't have any common sense. No one is saying the mask is gonna create some shield around you to keep covid away, people use the excuse, well that's how it makes some dumbasses feel so we shouldn't use them at all!
Let me give you an example, one case where no one wears a mask and one where people do. Say you have an elderly family member, just say its your grandma, and someone with covid sneezes or coughs right in her face on the bus, she's fucked now she has it through no fault of her own. If that situation happens and they both got masks on your grandma doesn't get covid.
If no one had masks on people would be getting covid through means that are out of their control. With masks people will most likely get it from touch which is in their control. Again this is why its not rampant in healthcare workers, you put the tools in place for the people with common sense. All the anti-mask nut jobs can touch their face all they want without washing their hands and blame the mask for getting them sick.
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People love my mask.... and i love my mask too.
OK, I'm in.
Frito_Pendejo
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I can’t remember the last time I saw someone out in public without a mask in? It’s a good thing too because it’s really bringing our covid numbers down but a European who’s never been here probably knows better than the people here seeing it everyday...
Mahadev
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Is this a serious post? I can't tell because I've read so much stupid shit on the internet lately.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Wrong.
EverydayBeast
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How are there hotspots when it’s a GLOBAL pandemic? 
StreetsofBeige
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Probably has nothing to do with your mask and protocols at the hospital. You're just naturally resistant to covid. I'm crap at wearing masks and never use hand sanitizer unless a store forces me to at the front door and I've been fine the whole time. In fact, before stores even mandated masks (that first month or two when it was optional..... you could just walk into a Costco) I didn't even wear a mask.
If hand scrubbing, great mask wearing, and using high quality medical grade masks were that important for preventing covid and getting sick, then every school in every country would be rampant with elementary and high school kids (a good 1000 per school + teachers) all getting sick because there's no way all these 1000+ people are doing proper processes to prevent covid.
Yet name one school where all the kids and teachers are deathly sick. I don't think there is one.
Doctors wear crap all masks when they see patients at the clinic. They see patients every day complaining of being sick, yet they never seem to be. Before covid, my doctor at the clinic can have a lobby of sick and sniffling adults and kids (who knows what disease they have), where it's so packed you got to stand in a corner or wait outside because there's not even enough seats. And he walks around in business casual clothes and no mask. No white lab coat, no mask. Guy always seems fine. The guy just has a great immune system and doesn't give a shit and he's hanging out with sick people all day.
You can tell the government doesn't even think it's that important. If they really did, kids would be all home schooled with online teaching, and they'd mandate medical grade masks for everyone to use. Instead, kids are back in class and as long as any shitty unwashed cotton mask is used, that's good enough.
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KingdomHeartsFan
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Take me out of the equation, you seriously think every healthcare worker is just resistant to covid? All the old nurses and doctors that are exposed daily? No it has to do with the measures we take to protect ourselves, not because were magically resistant. Hell the average age for a doctor is probably around 50, are you gonna try to make the case that they are naturally resistant?
The reason schools don't have 1000+ cases is because kids are less affected by covid, they've said this from the beginning older people are more susceptible.
All doctors I've seen since this started wear masks, if you have one that doesn't I suggest you get a better one. If you mean your doctor didn't wear a mask before this started there's a reason for that, vaccines, the thing we don't have for covid yet.
Lionel Richie
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Most people are ugly as fuck, why would you want to see them without a mask?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Sure they are resistant and built up immunities. As I said, the typical doc in a clinic seeing sick people doesn't even wear a mask until covid time. And if he does, he yanks it off the second he leaves the room. Yet, how come all these 50 year old doctors aren't all sick from contagious diseases?
Exactly the point I'm making. Covid isn't even as dangerous as people think. If it was, you wouldn't have 99% of the population unaffected. And if magically every person in every country does have it in their blood (in case someone says just because you don't feel it, doesn't mean you don't have it), it must be the shittiest bug ever because 99% of people don't seem to have symptoms or feel sick.
You should read my post again. I said "pre covid". ONly reason docs wear it now is due to covid. Before covid, your typical doctor walks around without a mask at the clinic or hospital when seeing patients for general check up stuff or a family feels sick with the flu. Yet how often do you see them being sick because they saw 40 people during flu season? I bet the vast majority of them feel fine like nothing happened. And virtually zero masks before covid.
You're telling me every doctor has taken every vaccine? And that includes all the nurses, technicians and the ladies who work the front desk scheduling appointments?
And nobody before covid went around spraying every seat, door knob and table with cleaning solution. Maybe in the surgery room, but not general purpose patient rooms, lobby seats or bathrooms. And nobody seemed to get sick from any contagious germs before covid.
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MetalAlien
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protecting us from the make believe pandemic.