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[bob page]

It looks like everyone from the Verge hates it, which means the podcast today is going to be awesome. :lol

They never liked Facebook to begin with, so nothing new here.

Ben Parr:

So, Facebook has a lot more to announce in the next few weeks. This is just the first half of the #f8 story.

 

[Enco]

Timeline beta nowwwww!!

Roll out over new few weeks.

Open graph as timeline is rolled out.

A few apps get open graph early.

 

[AstroLad]

You have kidnappers as friends?

I think the issue on FB has always been the weird pressure to add people since it's a reciprocal system. You ding someone you're basically saying FU. So people wind up caving and then sharing with and reading from people they hated in high school, colleagues they barely knew from old jobs years ago, etc. Not that there aren't ways to get around this, but very few people are even tech-savvy enough to properly use those. Doesn't help that FB is always messing around with privacy settings too and defaulting people to maxshare.

 

[brotkasten]

@futurepaul: "Yeah, he's cute and interesting and funny and all, but I'm just not that into his Timeline."

I can totally see it.

 

[ecurbj]

When you're trying to predict things that will likely never happen, yes.

 

[GCX]

I wonder how many Steve Jobs conferences Mark has studied.

 

[Xun]

I wonder how many Steve Jobs conferences Mark has studied.

Barely any it would seem.

 

[Korey]

You have kidnappers as friends?

You wouldn't know they're a kidnapper until they kidnap you. Even then you might not know because you'd be blindfolded. And by then it's too late to wonder what if you hadn't used that Nike+ Facebook GPS app that maps your exact jogging pattern and schedule

 

[brotkasten]

Oh God, Intel as a company to look up to? That's scary.

I wonder how many Steve Jobs conferences Mark has studied.

Not enough.

 

[GCX]

Barely any it would seem.

Well he does have sneakers.

 

[Enco]

We're done here folks.

 

[Dr. Malik]

Cause all I do is win, win...

lol, really. A bit conceited

 

[MarkMclovin]

I think the issue on FB has always been the weird pressure to add people since it's a reciprocal system.

I agree that it used to be, but as I add more and more content personal to me, I wonder if so-and-so should have access to that.

This year is the first time I have started to delete people. If I haven't talked to you in years or if I feel that I don't know you enough for you to know a lot about me, then I'll delete you.

If people are tech-savvy enough to put their lives up onto FB, then they should also know how to adjust their privacy settings.

 

[kaskade]

So no iPad app what the fuck?

 

[Enco]

I agree that it used to be, but as I add more and more content personal to me, I wonder if so-and-so should have access to that.

This year is the first time I have started to delete people. If I haven't talked to you in years or if I feel that I don't know you enough for you to know a lot about me, then I'll delete you.

If people are tech-savvy enough to put their lives up onto FB, then they should also know how to adjust their privacy settings.

.

 

[brotkasten]

So no iPad app what the fuck?

You know, the iPad isn't a mobile device. It's more like a computer and computer can access Facebook through the browser.

Makes sense, right?

 

[UnblessedSoul]

Great move, setting people up to reveal even more about themselves, gather all their data together, analyze and PROFIT, I'll probs be deleting fb anyway if I dislike the changes

 

[bob page]

So no iPad app what the fuck?

Yeah, this is perhaps what I'm most disappointed about. An iPad version is already in the damn app, Facebook, why don't you just unlock it already?

 

[davepoobond]

Oh sure, I wouldn't describe what they're announcing is necessarily bad, they've done some UI work for once, but that doesn't mean I'd want to use any of it ever.

obviously they didn't design every part of facebook to be used by every single person. each part of facebook appeals to a particular need that may only be present in 20% at the current time. the point of developing these new UIs is so that if it grows or becomes necessary to have in the future, they already have it.

they have to innovate otherwise they get left behind. Google+ may have scared them a little bit into launching some features early, but I don't think anyone can pretend they didn't have a majority of these features planned out for the past year or two.

page designs come and go as per usual, so they probably only really decided to do something new the past couple months. they're really not hard to make new profile designs quickly.

 

[Xrenity]

You know, the iPad isn't a mobile device. It's more like a computer and computer can access Facebook through the browser.

Makes sense, right?

They've said they're working on it.

 

[esquire]

So no iPad app what the fuck?

Does Facebook use Flash, Javascript or something else? I would think their main issue with an iPad app is that it would change the way FB already works (and they'd probably want you to just visit their site through the browser anyway).

 

[davepoobond]

Some sites are already starting to use Facebook and Twitter as the only way to sign-in to the app. In the future I'm sure there will be apps which will force you to be social.

so then create a dummy account that no one you know can see and isn't connected to you. its not that hard to figure out.

So don't use it unless you're not afraid of getting kidnapped/stalked? Great feature!

you mean great web site. THAT'S WHAT FACEBOOK IS TO THE VERY CORE. if you dont want to even have anyone know anything about what is going on with you you shouldnt even have a facebook to begin with!

 

[kehs]

You know, the iPad isn't a mobile device. It's more like a computer

Well put.

 

[giga]

iPad app probably won't be out until Timeline ships.

 

[MarkMclovin]

You wouldn't know they're a kidnapper until they kidnap you. Even then you might not know because you'd be blindfolded. And by then it's too late to wonder what if you hadn't used that Nike+ Facebook GPS app that maps your exact jogging pattern and schedule

Haha, well at least we'll know where your body has been dumped!

 

[bob page]

iPad app probably won't be out until Timeline ships.

Hopefully they delayed it to add some sort of Timeline functionality. If it's the same as the crappy regular mobile version, though, I'll be pretty disappointed and will keep on using the web version.

 

[Vega]

has anybody been able to click the timeline sign up button yet?

 

[kaskade]

has anybody been able to click the timeline sign up button yet?

I did and it just says we'll let you know when it's available. I want to play with the new shiny thing.

 

[bob page]

has anybody been able to click the timeline sign up button yet?

I clicked it when they launched that Timeline splash page. Once I clicked it, I got a popup saying I'll be notified when it's available.

 

[Manics]

I hope Twitter trademarked "Timeline"

 

[Enco]

has anybody been able to click the timeline sign up button yet?

I clicked it but it just said coming soon.

Hopefully it's up in a few minutes.

 

[giga]

This is damn good design. They have some really talented guys up there. After this ships and people get used to it, we'll all look back at our old profiles full of wall posts and status updates and think to ourselves how we ever lived like that.

 

[edgefusion]

Sooo... how can I be a developer to get this now?

 

[BocoDragon]

Timeline....

wait a second... the last thing I want in the world is for people to cruise my past. Who the hell loves their past? Who wants to show it to people? It's like a credit report or something.

Do not want. (but admittedly maybe I don't get it yet... I didn't watch the F8 conference).

 

[Enco]

Sooo... how can I be a developer to get this now?

It's open as beta for everyone.

Sometime today. Roll out over the next few weeks.

 

[esquire]

This is damn good design. They have some really talented guys up there. After this ships and people get used to it, we'll all look back at our old profiles full of wall posts and status updates and think to ourselves how we ever lived like that.

https://www.facebook.com/images/profile/timeline/marketing/cover2.jpg[IMG]
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I can see how Facebook might suck if you are a social outcast or you have boring friends.

 

[Meatpuppet]

This is damn good design. They have some really talented guys up there. After this ships and people get used to it, we'll all look back at our old profiles full of wall posts and status updates and think to ourselves how we ever lived like that.

I'm not so keen on the massive photo at the top. Sure some people will have a really nice banner, but the average profile is likely to look a little crappy

 

[Vega]

I gotta say, my timeline is gonna be dull as shit. I don't get to world travel like the Facebook execs do. :'(

 

[Plywood]

I can see how Facebook might suck if you are a social outcast or you have boring friends.

I'M FUCKED


I mean, now I have to socialize :<

 

[3N16MA]

What is a facebook?

 

[brotkasten]

Uhhh, places and maps is now powered by Bing? This changes everything.

 

[jtb]

Timeline....

wait a second... the last thing I want in the world is for people to cruise my past. Who the hell loves their past? Who wants to show it to people? It's like a credit report or something.

Do not want. (but admittedly maybe I don't get it yet... I didn't watch the F8 conference).

It's like Facebook is now, I think. You share as much or as little as you want. So, you can add stuff in the present (books, movies, etc.), without necessarily going back in time and filling in the gaps. That's what I got out of it, at least.

 

[MarkMclovin]

I would have preferred it use Google Maps instead of Bing.

 

[bob page]

Poor Google+ team... they were struggling hard to keep up as it is, and after the past few days of Facebook updates, they're miles behind again.

 

[Dr. Malik]

Uhhh, places and maps is now powered by Bing? This changes everything.

Its always been.


So are they really getting rid of the wall? I dont see it

 

[secretanchitman]

It looks like everyone from the Verge hates it, which means the podcast today is going to be awesome. :lol

exactly my thinking...lol

 

[Mr_Zombie]

You can get access to "Open Graph" if you're a facebook developer.

I can see how Facebook might suck if you are a social outcast or you have boring friends.

I have just few pictures on my profile and I've been tagged only once.
My new profile page will look so empty

 

[jtb]

I have just few pictures on my profile and I've been tagged only once.
My new profile page will look so empty

likes, status updates, check-ins, etc.... unless you absolutely never use your Facebook, I think you'll be fine.

 

[Meatpuppet]

Its always been.


So are they really getting rid of the wall? I dont see it

I'd assume not, the wall is a major driver of traffic based on the usage patterns I see. That said I'm curious as to how it fits in with the timeline; during the presentation it certainly came across as being your new profile. I'd guess that they are separated somehow in the new iteration.

 

[giga]

Awww yeah.

Developers: go to the developer portal and then start using open graph in your app. Then you'll get that notification in your profile.