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FACT : Entire Russian Olympic team not banned from Rio
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Wafflecakes
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The dumbest argument I have heard.
The common cold could mutate. OH NOES!
WTF is a "germ culture"? You do realize that germs interbreeding to form superbugs only happens in your imagination right?
Zika is a serious issue, but this type of stupidity when discussing it doesn't help.
ldcommando
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For those worried about zika, here´s the latest take on it via CDC:
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/zi...lympics-unlikely-spread-zika-cdc-says-n608626
Published on 07/13
TLDR: unless you are a pregnant woman, don´t freak the fuck out.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/zi...lympics-unlikely-spread-zika-cdc-says-n608626
Published on 07/13
TLDR: unless you are a pregnant woman, don´t freak the fuck out.
Wafflecakes
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What "substitute teams"?
In most events countries are limited to a certain number of slots per event, and the number doesn't increase if fewer countries attend.
It does suck for Russian athletes (the clean ones anyways) to be strung out this long.
Wafflecakes
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Far too late for that and even if it occurred it would have little to no positive impact.
1. Most things are already paid for. The money is gone... there would be no savings.
2. Most of the athletes are in no-money sports. Canceling it now would just screw over their entire careers.
3. This time of year is relatively bad for mosquitoes and it isn't expected to be a huge risk.
It isn't happening. So why do we feel the need to pollute the thread with the discussion when it isn't even really relevant to the topic?
I do feel sorry for the individual athletes, many of whom may be completely clean and blameless (I daresay there's a number of low-profile events that aren't big enough for the government to care about; I suspect there's no state-sponsored slalom canoeist doping!)
There is a 'country', "Independent Olympians" - that competes under the Olympic flag, and strikes me as a useful loophole to not exclude such athletes.
- and when I look up the details on Independent Olympians, I discover that that loophole is indeed in place: although not actually accepted for many people
Wafflecakes
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ldcommando
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UnluckyKate
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It was very common in USSR from what people told me in my time in russia and it had very dark implications (underaged gymnast being more or less raped by their trainers, same for ice skaters etc..) because it was in USSR and for the glory of sports there were never any records nor complaints. Hell, crime and serial killers weren't even acknowledge back then
Wafflecakes
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...or the government could just.... you know... not cheat?
If the athletes who are wrong want someone to blame, they can blame their government.
Due to the extent and sophistication of the doping program there is NO WAY for the IOC to determine who is innocent or guilty in the country as far as athletes go.
ClosingADoor
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Then they should blame their own country for cheating. Line has to be drawn somewhere and I fully support banning a country if that country actively has their athletes cheat.
It's hard to imagine that many athletes would be clean when they represent a country that goes to such lengths to systematically cheat. It seems like it would be hard for a Russian athlete to simply say "no thanks" given how much focus and state directed effort was put into this cheating program.
Messofanego
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Amazing.
Wafflecakes
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I imagine Russia doesn't bother doping its athletes that are not contenders (the vast bulk of the athletes) due to the risk of getting caught, and those athletes having less incentive to keep quiet.
It wasn't fair for the NFL to suspend Tom Brady for something disproved by science yet here we are. Life isn't fair.
Good point. I should have said "relevant athletes" as you're right that there would be no point (even for a callous and corrupt regime) to have someone ranked 85 in the world cheat so that they could be 72 instead.
Anyone expecting anything else when Bach and Putin are basically buddies is quite naive
Were we really expecting anything else? The IOC isn't quite up there with FIFA in terms of pure fuckery but by god they're doing their best all the same.
WWIII avoided then.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
wouldnt be fair to those that are clear
Won't be fair either way. Every Russian athlete that will win a medal in Rio will be considered a cheater.
Doping isn't mutually exclusive to Russia, in the United States there are various sponsors & coaches push their athletes into various types of doping. No question that Russia's state sponsored doping program is wrong and isn't fair to other clean athletes that are competing, but to a ban a 300 plus team is overkill. There is no need. The decision isn't based on rationality, it is based on geopolitics and is meant as a big fuck you to Russia. Which unfortunately is what the Olympics have kinda always been about.
State-wide doping is also "based on geopolitics".
Aye fuck him and his FSB
spiderman123
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HOW MUCH PUTIN PAID?
1.21Gigawatts
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Is it just americans who are obssessed with viruses?
I haven't seen anyone who actually gives a shit about Zika in europe(maybe the UK).
But fearmongering about viruses seems to be particularly present in american media.
BigWeather
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Another reason to skip watching these Olympics. What a farce.
CosmicQueso
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The anti-Americanism on GAF is really going places.
Paid? He probably called them, said his pants are down and his dick is on the nuclear trigger.
1.21Gigawatts
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I'm just wonder because this was the very first time I heard anyone speaking fearfully about Zika.
https://t.co/r3G3swGKxS
You know what, screw these Olympic Games. Germany and other nations should protest this shit show.
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