This is likely a FIFA like situation where he can produce all the evidence he needs for all of them to be arrested for corruption.
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FACT : Entire Russian Olympic team not banned from Rio
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This is likely a FIFA like situation where he can produce all the evidence he needs for all of them to be arrested for corruption.
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I'm not surprised in the slightest. I fully expected this outcome. Those spineless toadying execs. It's shameful really.
hobblygobbly
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Not surprising but at least this outcome is good for the new Russian athletes that are participating in their first olympic games.
Not even a few weeks. I had it and it lasted five days maximum. It itched a lot aaaand that's about it.
Of course i wouldn't tell any women that is pregnant or plans to be soon, but for any other case it's fine.
Zika is not even the focus on News here anymore.
Depends on your "fearfully"... A friend of mine is pregnant, and there was a couple warnings about possible zika risks in southern France. I think they've changed theirs plans for their summer holydays trip. Not because of "fear", but just to be cautious...
Coriolanus
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A-yurp. Dude most certainly kept the receipts for sochi.
CrunchyFrog
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TBF, it's probably better diplomatically. Something so publicly snubbing Russia would give Putin ammo for his anti-western agenda. Besides, you could effectively punish Russia by just giving the suspected athletes poor scores.
hendersonhank
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If there are any such athletes -- and doping is pervasive at EVERY level of athletics -- those athletes are not being wronged here, because they never would have qualified for the Olympics in the first place.
Yeah, I'm genuinely surprised by the overall disappointment of this decision. Not all Russians are dopers and you can be assured they are going to be tested to hell these olympics.
The rule of just banning Russians with a history of dope, and not all athletes which have been found guilty of doping, is what upsets me. (and no, I'm not Russian)
Rory Mcilroy, definitely not American, withdrew from the Olympics because of it.
http://espn.go.com/golf/story/_/id/16414738/rory-mcilroy-withdraws-olympic-games-amid-zika-fears
This has a list, and many are non-Americans.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/0/rio-olympics-which-athletes-have-withdrawn-over-zika-fears/
Having doping state sponsored, and hidden using government spying agencies and finding proof of it is a bit of a game changer. That's quite different from an individual athlete or trainer going that route, although both should be treated seriously.
And they have every right to do so. As someone who lives in Rio, i wouldn't tell any pregnant women to travel here. I don't know anyone else who had Zika, but a risk is a risk.
For people in normal conditions though? I think it's okay. The chance of getting Zika is already slim and even if they got it, nothing will change in their lives.
And about the water: Some places are good, some places are not. The places where people are going to swim are okay, the rowing places are not good, but nothing awful. Sailing places are bad.
SliceSabre
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Wow I thought for sure they were getting banned since all the news outlets and everything were talking about it like it was a sure thing.
If your government is using your spy agencies and other secretive upper tier government agencies to cheat on such a wide level, don't be shocked if you aren't allowed to go to the Olympics. Don't go blaming the IOC. If Russia wasn't cheating on such a grand scale this wouldn't have happened. The clean Russian athletes can get pissed at their government and their doping syndicate.
It's like when Penn State got the sanctions from the Sandusky fallout and people said it wasn't fair. The program is getting punished, so it doesn't happen again.
It's like when Penn State got the sanctions from the Sandusky fallout and people said it wasn't fair. The program is getting punished, so it doesn't happen again.
You had state-sponsored doping. The entire system is corrupt. It's a lot like why the NCAA punishes programs and not athletes for serious transgressions. There is no institutional control (in this case, there was institutional SUPPORT for it!).
It's unfair to the clean athletes, sure.
Good Job Bob
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Good to hear. The Olympics will be better with their participation.
Well I think it would have been justified if the affected sports programs were banned.
Oh I'm not saying it isn't quite different, but I have difficulty with sanctioning athletes "guilty until proven innocent".
My solution would have been to allow the placed athletes, but not under the Russian flag. And of course have them rigorously tested.
Yup.
And people thought those Olympics were a shit show, too.
It just keeps getting worse.
Bedameister
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Man fuck the IOC
And they won't allow Julia Stepanowa in. What a shit show.
Fuck the Olympics and fuck the next World Cups
And they won't allow Julia Stepanowa in. What a shit show.
Fuck the Olympics and fuck the next World Cups
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