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Arakita's entire backstory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WAAH! He didn't give me a bottle of water.

That Bepsi moment at the end was pretty sweet.
 
OreFuro 10

Unlike the imouto, the snail should stay, he's funny.

Yowapeda Grande Road Episode 10

Arakita is the best and I loved his expansive backstory. Also it was amazing since his voice actor's voice for him is pretty wonderful to hear. I can listen to his voice all day, just like Toudou's voice.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
For better or worse, Fate/Zero really does not stand on its own for these reasons. It's there as a post-mortem setup to F/SN and most of its elements are there to attain that. Urobuchi shines when he has more leeway and I think that shows with Caster and Rider's respective arcs. I'm inclined to agree on Saber and never understood the love she gets from the fan base. But at the end of the day, F/Z is an appendage to F/SN and it lives and dies by the main body it's attached to. Mostly dies if you're past your late teens to early twenties and can't draw on uninformed nostalgia like I can.

The fan base likes virgin blonde-haired ice queen anime waifus. Its pretty simple, really.

The problem with her character is that literally nothing she does makes a lick of sense and this problem gets worse when you get through her character arc, not better. Seriously, there is no cogent reason why Saber wants to redo the selection, and for some insane reason none of the other characters ever tell her how dumb her motivation is, nor the fact that England is still a thriving first-world country. Ironically, several characters tell Shirou off for his weird shonen-hero acts, yet Shirou is considered a way worse character than Saber is for some reason.
 
Sailor Moon Crystal 11

I guess now when you can have 2-3 minutes of stock footage for transformation sequences you can uses that added budget to make the rest of the scenes look good. Kind of wish the battle between the scouts and Endymion could have lasted a bit longer but it was enjoyable. One issue with Crystals mostly manga story with a bit pulled from PGSM is that the 4 kings are nowhere to be seen for this final battle when they clearly should be there as they're still alive in the universe. Still a good episode and I look forward to the finale of the Dark Kingdom arc.
 

fertygo

Member
Saber is one of the most brilliant marketing/promotion decision in industry.

Her looks and set-up is very striking with enough controversial flair in it, its make you check out and talk about the title despite you like it or not.

Just look this multiple discussion that arise about her, its an example how powerful her as bait lol.
 
just watched this as well.

I think that episode 19 did a much better job than this one at depicting a difficult and dramatic relationship between a mother and her son. and damn that ending.

in this episode, my major complaints were that the mother
tied him up to a three. I mean, what? To me it didn't seem that she had the intention to kill him, honestly. she didn't love him but that's it. when he got hit by the lightning she was worried that he actually died so again, I don't think that it was her intention to kill him. or if it was, they didn't express it very well. she tried to kill herself when she was young, as we see in the flashback, that was understandable to some degree.

and the father,
besides the introductive part at the beginning, was never saw again. not sure what happened there but he completely vanished for no reason. make him die like in episode 19, would make more sense.

the real reason of the son
was to "save everyone from the lightning strikes" - or make sure that everyone was safe. I don't think that people needed that. :p but I guess it was his way to be useful, to help the others, he knew that his mother didn't love him etc. and he didn't care about dying.

again, the whole story didn't feel as intense or emotional as I would have hoped or as episode 19, yet some scenes were indeed 'powerful'. as you mentioned, the part before the ending was one of them.
also this scene, with the music, was pretty great.

the music in general was quite good during this episode.

besides some complaints I did enjoy it and yes, Mushishi S2 is still very strong.

I think I liked 20 more than 19. Obviously in 19 you have a much more normal relationship, the drama is more in what happens, with a normal
sense of loss and sadness when a mother loses her son
.

At first it isn't very clear, but yeah, I think she tried to kill him tying to a big tree in a stormy weather, I think that was the first time he was hit by lightning, yeas ago. From that point on she feels guilty and conflicted as for her he is exposing himself to danger as a way to come back to her, to make her suffer. It's a "look, look at what you tried to do. Isn't this what you wanted to?". It's less pure worry for him and more a horrible reminder of the night she went too far. Though of course then Ginko explains that maybe his reasons are less negative and just want to protect her in his way. The end scene explains it, she still can't say she loves him, but she is clearly sorry and want to pay with her life, thsi tie.


I thought eps 19 is pretty fucking cheap, with its impossible to saw the twist coming and Ginko came across as douchebag smartass that experimenting his patient with lack of consideration for the consequences.

Eps 20 had some problem and scenario did felt "tryhard" but had better execution for me.

For the S2 I feel already liking more eps than S1 of Zoku, with my favorite eps being the replaced granny and disappearing girl.

Well, it wasn't impossible to see. Ginko even explained it could happen! It was just sudden and unexpected, but that's part of what the episode wanted to transmit. We are accustomed to episodes where Ginko succeeds or at least he mitigates part of effects or there is a bittersweet ending, or at least "fight" the mushi, while
this episode was more "...and the patient suffered a sudden brain stroke. Nothing we could prevent or mitigate. Hour of death: 13:35." No impossible to see if the doctor said the illness could provoke brain strokes, but yeah, sudden and it makes the fight and treatment feel futile.
Douchebag smartass? He tried to save him with the cure he knew, but it wasn't enough, he came too late.
That's a very odd definition of douchebag.
 

cajunator

Banned
Saber is one of the most brilliant marketing/promotion decision in industry.

Her looks and set-up is very striking with enough controversial flair in it, its make you check out and talk about the title despite you like it or not.

Just look this multiple discussion that arise about her, its an example how powerful her as bait lol.

I have like 6 figurines of her. Maybe its more than that if you count the cheap ones.
She is a marketing masterpiece and she is really really cute.
 

phaze

Member
You dont know the half of it. That bastard is capable of a whole lot.

His talk about the bones (in the next episode ) was hilarious.

ever tell her how dumb her motivation is, nor the fact that England is still a thriving first-world country.

That's like telling Native Americans or Palestinians "look at this land that used to be yours before you were murdered/displaced, it is thriving like never before, be happy!
 

fertygo

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Well, it wasn't impossible to see. Ginko even explained it could happen! It was just sudden and unexpected, but that's part of what the episode wanted to transmit. We are accustomed to episodes where Ginko succeeds or at least he mitigates part of effects or there is a bittersweet ending, or at least "fight" the mushi, while
this episode was more "...and the patient suffered a sudden brain stroke. Nothing we could prevent or mitigate. Hour of death: 13:35." No impossible to see if the doctor said the illness could provoke brain strokes, but yeah, sudden and it makes the fight and treatment feel futile.
Douchebag smartass? He tried to save him with the cure he knew, but it wasn't enough, he came too late.
That's a very odd definition of douchebag.

Ginko had a gripe about what happened just after the accident.. and like "..oh"
Ginko seem completely aware the reason the kids gone because he already involved too much with the mushi, but seem not consider that when considering treatment, I don't know man, but the kid apparently can live longer despite the side effect.. but Ginko's "total treatment" completely whoop him away..
That's like telling Native Americans or Palestinians "look at this land that used to be yours before you were murdered/displaced, it is thriving like never before, be happy!

Yeah..
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
His talk about the bones (in the next episode ) was hilarious.



That's like telling Native Americans or Palestinians "look at this land that used to be yours before you were murdered/displaced, it is thriving like never before, be happy!

She swears all of her people were killed horribly and scattered to the winds, but they weren't. They just live in the same place. She might as well be whining that they're all dead by the 20th century.
 

John Blade

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Just got this today from a ebay sale. Going to start watching this once I go back finish watching Noir.



Saikano Another Love Song
 
Half way though F/SN UBW 9

What strip? What?

What?

What?

I don't understand

Why?

This is somehow worse then just flat out asking him if he was a master
 
Shingeki no Bahamut 09

Being Jeanne is always suffering. She's like the OG mahou shoujo.
That demon and Jeanne scene was awesome. Like, really really good. Direction and voice acting were on point.
And no amount of Shirobako or duckroll posts will convince me that CG Dragon was a good idea
THEY DIDN'T END WITH BAHAMUT TO THE MAX THIS WEEK BOO

Akame ga Kill Theater 22



SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT
 
Its a mediocre series. Try not to over think anything it does.

I'm enjoying the series for what it is a well animated and (unfortunately) faithful adaptation of the UBW arc of F/SN. I get the idea behind keeping the anime version of F/SN UBW faithful to the LN and I'm usually the loudest "boo anime original writing sucks" on the unfaithful adaptation hate train, but in an attempt to make F/SN UBW a sequel to F/Z they should have done exactly that. I guess it's kind of the same argument for SAO where it's technically very good and very faithful to the source material, but the source material is trash and SAO probably also would have been 100x better had the anime team just took the concepts of the LN and went in their own direction.

F/SN UBW 9 Second Half

I feel like even if I hadn't seen F/Z I would already know Kirei was a big scumbag and the main antagonist because F/SN UBW is doing zero effort to hide this fact. He doesn't even attempt to act like an innocent/ally priest he just acts and looks like a douche who's more laughing at the situation waiting for his moment to strike. How Kirei was depicted in F/Z up until the point he stole Archer probably would have been a better way to depict this character as it wouldn't be so obvious that he was clearly evil. This of course goes back to my "should have taken the ln conceptually only and done their own thing vs faithful adaptation of trash" discussion above where I guess Kirei was depicted like this in the game therefore this is how he is in the anime.

Rather slow episode though next week looks like we'll have some awesome action
 
I'm enjoying the series for what it is a well animated and (unfortunately) faithful adaptation of the UBW arc of F/SN. I get the idea behind keeping the anime version of F/SN UBW faithful to the LN and I'm usually the loudest "boo anime original writing sucks" on the unfaithful adaptation hate train, but in an attempt to make F/SN UBW a sequel to F/Z they should have done exactly that. I guess it's kind of the same argument for SAO where it's technically very good and very faithful to the source material, but the source material is trash and SAO probably also would have been 100x better had the anime team just took the concepts of the LN and went in their own direction.

F/SN UBW 9 Second Half

I feel like even if I hadn't seen F/Z I would already know Kirei was a big scumbag and the main antagonist because F/SN UBW is doing zero effort to hide this fact. He doesn't even attempt to act like an innocent/ally priest he just acts and looks like a douche who's more laughing at the situation waiting for his moment to strike. How Kirei was depicted in F/Z up until the point he stole Archer probably would have been a better way to depict this character as it wouldn't be so obvious that he was clearly evil. This of course goes back to my "should have taken the ln conceptually only and done their own thing vs faithful adaptation of trash" discussion above where I guess Kirei was depicted like this in the game therefore this is how he is in the anime.

Rather slow episode though next week looks like we'll have some awesome action
To be fair, he isn't as obviously evil in the fate route, and you had to complete the fate route to access UBW route anyways, so at this point anyone playing would already know he's evil
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
On cell right now will answer tomorrow.

Its not like its just that. That's just a minor complaint about it. There's a ton of reasons why Saber's whole goal is kind of nonsense.
 
To be fair, he isn't as obviously evil in the fate route, and you had to complete the fate route to access UBW route anyways, so at this point anyone playing would already know he's evil

Fair enough, I guess from a design perspective there is no longer a reason to hide the fact he's the bad guy in later routes when the audience already knows, but it still feels silly from a story perspective that for no reason Shirou using his command seal to stop Saber from attacking Archer (which is the divergent point from Fate route to UBW route if I read correctly) would suddenly make Kirei start acting like the bad guy without any attempt at subterfuge.
 

fertygo

Member
Fair enough, I guess from a design perspective there is no longer a reason to hide the fact he's the bad guy in later routes when the audience already knows, but it still feels silly from a story perspective that for no reason Shirou using his command seal to stop Saber from attacking Archer (which is the divergent point from Fate route to UBW route if I read correctly) would suddenly make Kirei start acting like the bad guy without any attempt at subterfuge.

Kirei's side in F/Z that rather ambiguous and confused about himself is more prominent in route that ufotable gonna adapt as movie, in other scenario he rejoice the entertainment.
 

Puruzi

Banned
why would you be happy about watching terrible shows

Because it's good in my opinion. I rarely dislike any anime I watch, aside from SAO and Cross Ange.
Are Fate/Zero and Fate Stay Night that bad?
Also fuck Attack on Titan and Akame after episode 19
 

Mature

Member
We had people involved in Mushishi (good anime) discussion and yet people didn't bite, this thread loss.. better spending energy complaining discussion that they didn't like doe.
I don't mind people talking about any show, really. But when I feel like I might as well be in a thread for that show specifically, I wonder if that discourse doesn't better belong elsewhere.

The currently airing FSN had a thread and it was shut down because of too much spoiler talk or something, right? Why not have a greater series thread similar to what JoJo does?
 

Syrinx

Member
I don't mind people talking about any show, really. But when I feel like I might as well be in a thread for that show specifically, I wonder if that discourse doesn't better belong elsewhere.

The currently airing FSN had a thread and it was shut down because of too much spoiler talk or something, right? Why not have a greater series thread similar to what JoJo does?
There's a Type Moon thread now, so there I guess?
 

CorvoSol

Member
The fan base likes virgin blonde-haired ice queen anime waifus. Its pretty simple, really.

The problem with her character is that literally nothing she does makes a lick of sense and this problem gets worse when you get through her character arc, not better. Seriously, there is no cogent reason why Saber wants to redo the selection, and for some insane reason none of the other characters ever tell her how dumb her motivation is, nor the fact that England is still a thriving first-world country. Ironically, several characters tell Shirou off for his weird shonen-hero acts, yet Shirou is considered a way worse character than Saber is for some reason.

God this drove me insane the entire show. TWO MAJOR CHARACTERS WERE BRITISH.

Saber is one of the most brilliant marketing/promotion decision in industry.

Her looks and set-up is very striking with enough controversial flair in it, its make you check out and talk about the title despite you like it or not.

Just look this multiple discussion that arise about her, its an example how powerful her as bait lol.

Her design is fucking Agrias Oaks downgraded to a fucking skirt. There isn't anything good about her, least of all the "lolololo u dun been trolled by controversy into lurnin" bullshit.

She's shit. The only way she could be worse is an unimagineable possibility because there isn't any concept of a character more fucking shit than Saber.
 
I didn't mean to once again derail the thread into Fate talk :X I'm just going though my Crunchyroll que watching the anime from the past few days I missed due to having an entire weekend of video gaming, speaking of that.

Log Horizon S2 E10

That speech by the guild master has got to be one of the all time best "FUCK YEAH GAMERS" speeches of all time. Even without any knowledge of the anime Log Horizon or the in universe game Log Horizon he mentions in the speech I think any hard core gamer can relate to what was said.

In the context of the Log Horizon anime, it's crazy how this episode was basically just a monologue by a secondary character who really hasn't been around that much and yet it completely worked. We get yet another view of Log Horizon the game and the world they are now trapped in and some new insight into events that happened in season 1. Just another great episode of one of the best series I've ever seen.



Were the Log Horizon novels translated officially into English? I would totally buy and read them if they are to support the series because it's that good.

Edit: So apparently reading though the comments I'm the only person who liked the speech this much and thought it worked really well :X
 

fertygo

Member
Her design is fucking Agrias Oaks downgraded to a fucking skirt. There isn't anything good about her, least of all the "lolololo u dun been trolled by controversy into lurnin" bullshit.

She's shit. The only way she could be worse is an unimagineable possibility because there isn't any concept of a character more fucking shit than Saber.
Exhibit A. I hope you can stop with this skirt thing though.

Male also can wearing an skirt too.
Were the Log Horizon novels translated officially into English? I would totally buy and read them if they are to support the series because it's that good.
Importing the novel shouldn't cost you an liver unlike anime disc.

Also I thought Sentai already licensing the anime disc.
EDIT :

Edit: So apparently reading though the comments I'm the only person who liked the speech this much and thought it worked really well :X

Can you expand why you like it then? I dislike it because lol gamers.
 

NeonZ

Member
God this drove me insane the entire show. TWO MAJOR CHARACTERS WERE BRITISH.

You're ignoring the whole bit about how the Saxons, Arthur's enemies, eventually took over Britain...

Edit: So apparently reading though the comments I'm the only person who liked the speech this much and thought it worked really well :X

I liked the speech, but I don't think the execution was that great. It was clearly written as something improvised, with awkward pauses and such, and yet the other characters just watched and watched like it were a formal speech. It just seems rather artificial when played out like that on screen, even if the speech itself was good.

Even regarding the speech itself though, I think a big factor in enjoying it is identification. I could identify with what he was talking about there in some ways and so I enjoyed it. However, if there's no identification, I think the entire episode probably would seem like a giant waste of time.
 
Log Horizon S2 E10

Edit: So apparently reading though the comments I'm the only person who liked the speech this much and thought it worked really well :X

The content of the speech was allright, but they super hamfisted it in. It's hard to believe that one full wipe to something so absurd had a guild of raiders contemplate quitting raiding, and that really undercut the 'believability' of his speech in turn, which was pretty good by itself.

I mean at bare minimum, any raiding guild would run that encounter again to see if the whole thing wasn't a gimmick, or there wasn't some secret insta-failure condition to set that event off.

EDIT: Also, it's another super introspective episode in a set of introspective episodes. The plot feels like it's swimming through molasses.
 
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