manueldelalas
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Woa! great sales for Smash Brawl... maybe it will reach 2 millions
before FFXIII
Didn't 7th Dragon have pronounced shipment problems as well?duckroll said:Or maybe they should have shipped enough SJ so it could sell, and actually bother to have a second shipment! Maybe! @*&%^(##$
SlipperySlope said:Sorry to take it slightly OT, but when is Graces coming out in the US?
Neomoto said:So Animal Crossing Wild World became the FOURTH 5 million+ seller on the DS?
Hahaha thanks! I actually remember it now after seeing the link. The chart confused medonny2112 said:
136,619cvxfreak said:92. [NDS] Beautiful Letter Training (Nintendo) - 139,619 / 561,891
cvxfreak said:Company Software Sales Breakdown:
1. Nintendo: 14,400,000
2. Square Enix: 8,590,000
3. Bandai Namco: 7,590,000
4. Pokemon: 4,730,000
5. Konami: 4,660,000
duckroll said:No one can fault Namco for not actually trying to give all platforms a chance when it comes to Tales this generation. Well, except the PSP, but it seems Tales fans are happy with what they're getting on the PSP anyway.
And DQX will outsell those three combined. Such comparisons are meaningless.Moor-Angol said:I realized that FF13 + RE5 + Yakuza 3 outsold all Wii 3rd party games combined (Pokepark included)
Moor-Angol said:I realized that FF13 + RE5 + Yakuza 3 outsold all Wii 3rd party games combined (Pokepark included), and all PS3 3rd party games sold almost the double compared to Wii ones (5,12M vs 2,69M).
I wonder if developers also made this comparison...
Jokeropia said:And DQX will outsell those three combined. Such comparisons are meaningless.
Why go so far? DQIX outsold those three games mentioned. Maybe all third parties should just make games for the DS?Jokeropia said:And DQX will outsell those three combined. Such comparisons are meaningless.
Japanese publishers probably want to.ReyBrujo said:Why go so far? DQIX outsold those three games mentioned. Maybe all third parties should just make games for the DS?
ReyBrujo said:Why go so far? DQIX outsold those three games mentioned. Maybe all third parties should just make games for the DS?
Jokeropia said:And DQX will outsell those three combined. Such comparisons are meaningless.
Gee, I wonder why ;-)Moor-Angol said:I realized that FINAL FANTASY XIII + RESIDENT EVIL 5 + Yakuza 3 outsold all Wii 3rd party games combined (Pokepark included)
Developers are different. They're the creative people. They want the system that can best create their visions. Publishers and shareholders want it on the system that will make them the most money.Oxx said:It's not as if Japanese developers were rushing to make games for the Wii when it was at the peak of its powers in Japan.
I disagree. I don't need any of those things to confidently predict that it will sell more than 3 million.ethelred said:Games should not be invoked in sales discussions prior to the release of a single screen shot or piece of information, let alone a release date.
There's a chance it might be for DS (though Wii is still the most likely option), but it doesn't really matter as the point is that it's a game itself that determines what it will sell moreso than the platform it's on.onken said:If DQX actually makes it to Wii, and that's a pretty fucking big if.
Jokeropia said:I disagree. I don't need any of those things to confidently predict that it will sell more than 3 million.
Regulus Tera said:Goddamn Graces bombed hard.
Again, I disagree and I explained why in my last post.ethelred said:Bringing it up as a talking point to counter the success third party games are seeing on the PS3 really offers nothing whatsoever to the discussion. Yes, Dragon Quest X will sell very well. But there's really no standing to mention the game in a sales thread at this time.
Jokeropia said:Again, I disagree and I explained why in my last post.
This has got nothing to do with anything I was saying. Do I have to repeat my point?ethelred said:Well, I know you disagree, but that's because having talking points is more important to you than anything else.
You want to play the same "Wait for X" game that deluded and desperate PS3 fanboys played for the first two years of their system's existence, and that's cool; whatever gets your rocks off. It still doesn't make Dragon Quest X a relevant counterpoint in 2010.
ethelred said:Well, I know you disagree, but that's because having talking points is more important to you than anything else.
You want to play the same "Wait for X" game that deluded and desperate PS3 fanboys played for the first two years of their system's existence, and that's cool; whatever gets your rocks off. It still doesn't make Dragon Quest X a relevant counterpoint in 2010.
Puncture said:Actually his point was that the comparisons being made were pretty meaningless. Had nothing to do with Wait for X or talking points, I think you glossed over what he posted a little to quickly. He wasnt trying to come to the defense of anyone there.
ethelred said:And Moor Angol's question ("is this success something other third parties are taking note of?") is also a relevant commentary in the context of a 2009 sales thread.
schuelma said:I somewhat disagree that his statement alone is all that relevant. Put another way, he is asking if 3rd parties took note of *Final Fantasy* and 2 other major franchises outselling Monster Hunter and a few other lower tiered franchises. What at all about that statement is noteworthy?
schuelma said:I think a statement about Tales of Graces...
ethelred said:Setting aside that Monster Hunter 3 is not in any way an insignificant release, and setting aside that there were quite a few other releases that were expected to do well beforehand (surely, schuemla, you remember your own statements five or so months ago heralding the Wii's holiday lineup as the strongest it had yet seen from third parties by far?), you don't find it relevant or noteworthy for publishers to see that the PS3's current state in Japan is such that with significant releases they can still rake in sales nearly as strong as what they were able to achieve on the PS2 despite the successor console's early struggles with establishing a foothold in the market?
ethelred said:(surely, schuemla, you remember your own statements five or so months ago heralding the Wii's holiday lineup as the strongest it had yet seen from third parties by far?)
schuelma said:My point is that with how much FF13 has sold (which I think in some degree is a credit to the PS3 revitalization, no question), I don't think any disappointment in any Wii 3rd party game would have changed his quote. If Tales of Graces sells 300K instead of 200K, does that really change the ratio to any real extent? Does SW3 selling 50K more change things? In other words, the Wii's third party lineup, though better than what it previous had, was never going to compete with FF13, RE5, and Yakuza. Never.
schuelma said:Of course, if you want to talk about incorrect holiday 2009 predictions, we could go back to the NSMB Wii discussion. Even the best of us miss occasionally.
ethelred said:As you acknowledge, the 2.5 million collectively pulled in by these three largely rests on the strong performance FF13 managed to achieve. That it's now on the cusp of hitting 2 million is an achievement given that many questioned if it'd ever even do something like 1.3.
DS proves you wrong.Moor-Angol said:Since N64 times, people buy Nintendo games for Nintendo platforms, not caring so much about other games. This happened also on the GC and now with the Wii, despite its incredibile success in sales and popularity.
Nintendo games are setting new records in term of sales, something that doesn't happen for other games.
I don't accept something like "well, Wii had poor titles from other developers" cause when a system has 8-9 million units sold over the country, sales should be high. Just take a look about how many PS2 titles sold more than 200k in the first 3 years on the market.
Nintendo surely expanded the market, but just for their sales.
onken said:If DQX actually makes it to Wii, and that's a pretty fucking big if.
April 2010sweetdaddyg said:Do we still not have a date for MH3 on wii for the UK?
Moor-Angol said:Since N64 times, people buy Nintendo games for Nintendo platforms, not caring so much about other games. This happened also on the GC and now with the Wii, despite its incredibile success in sales and popularity.
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schuelma said:Yes, its really that simple.
Jonnyram said:48. [PS3] Warriors Orochi Z (Koei) - 221,718
58. [WII] Samurai Warriors 3 (Koei) - 205,370
85. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 6 Empires (Koei) - 146,520
cvxfreak said:Actually, Samurai Warriors 3 is ahead of Orochi Z in the Top 30. (227,154)