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[[Sigma]]

*sigh* Yes, Octopath Traveler 2 charted, no, I wouldn't call those numbers good. Likely dropping out of the top 30 by next week.

You talking about PlayStation software? Yeah those continue to be shit.

 

[Unknown?]

YTD: PS5 Hardware
2023 601,311
2022 179,775


LTD: Hardware, Week 120
PS5 2,978,700
PS3 2,862,447
PS4 2,788,388


OT (Spain)


Spain, Week 8
PS VR2 8,000
PS5 7,500
NSW 3,000
X/S 1,500

Spain, 2023
PS5 67K
NSW 65K
X/S 9K

Dang VR2 outsold PS5! Not bad!

 

[Unknown?]

You are misreading.

The growth rate is shrinking. You're taking a chart about overall sales trends.

Example, if growth is 90% and then drops to 40%, that's still 40% growth over the predecessor, but that's a 50% reduction and that questions stability in the long.

I said it was shrinking and slowing down fast, not that the PS5 was falling behind the PS4 as you interpreted.



No, but you read what I said incorrectly.

Man I hope you're not a statistician, because damn! Or maybe you work for the government? That'd explain it!

 

[Henry Panic]

It's selling faster than those 2 without a single heavy hitter being released dude. And with stuff like Final Fantasy XVI, Spider-Man 2, the new PS5 sku and a price decrease coming, that gap will keep getting bigger, not smaller.

Read above.

 

[TheTony316]

PS4 1,646
XBS 727

Good to see Playstation making a (slow) comeback in software.

 

[TheTony316]

 

[adamsapple]

2.[Switch] Octopath Traveler II (Square Enix) 53,995/53,995

Good. Square need a victory at this point.

 

[yazenov]

For comparison:

[NSW] Octopath Traveler (Square Enix, 07/13/18) – 110,111 (New)

[Switch] Octopath Traveler II (Square Enix) 53,995/
[PS5] Octopath Traveler II (Square Enix) 14,422/
total: 68,417


It seems to be in decline if you only account for physical, but if you include digital they might be equal in terms of sales.

 

[Deerock71]

Yeah but it's slowing down faster than anticipated. Likelihood of PS5 reaching PS4 in the end is shrinking fast.

Don't bother trying to make a sensible point to the slide-ruling and goalpost shifting of the PS5 sales followers. Just watch and have a sensible chuckle to yourself.

 

[Captain Toad]

The full price remaster outperformed the original release by over 50k and this is without digital sales.

01./00. [NSW] Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe <ACT> (Nintendo) {2023.02.24} (¥5.980) - 189.031 / NEW

02./00. [WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.27} (¥5.800) - 136.811 / NEW

If you think that's bad, look at Mario Kart 8.

 

[drganon]

*sigh* Yes, Octopath Traveler 2 charted, no, I wouldn't call those numbers good. Likely dropping out of the top 30 by next week.

Cope and seethe.

 

[shiru]

Cope and seethe.

What an absolute asshat.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

*sigh* Yes, Octopath Traveler 2 charted, no, I wouldn't call those numbers good. Likely dropping out of the top 30 by next week.

No 3rd party games sell like Nintendo games...even on Switch that's extremely rare, lmao. Most 3rd party games debuting on Switch have sales of 20k or 30k and that piece of hardware has like...30M units sold in Japan opposed to PS5's 3M.

But of course that seems like it's not convenient to talk about in here.

 

[Henry Panic]

Don't bother trying to make a sensible point to the slide-ruling and goalpost shifting of the PS5 sales followers. Just watch and have a sensible chuckle to yourself.

There's also the issue of software siding growth, or lack of.

But it seems people make up their minds already.

 

[drganon]

What an absolute asshat.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

With no digital sales data, we can't really guage anymore via the physical software sold whether a game is successful or not.

 

[Bragr]

How much of a percentage of Spain is of Europe's sales? 20%?

A lot less, something like 6% to 8%.

 

[as1m]

How much of a percentage of Spain is of Europe's sales? 20%?

Not sure. What is sure is that Xbox lifetime achievement in Europe is 20% only.

 

[Kataploom]

Damn was thinking Ryu ga Gotoku Ishin! would get at least(or close to) 100k the first week. Would like to know the digital sales for it.

I'm actually surprised it's selling that much, didn't that game release years ago already? Or is this a sequel?

 

[[Sigma]]

I'm actually surprised it's selling that much, didn't that game release years ago already? Or is this a sequel?

It's a remake.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

This is a great chart from InstallBase forums.

In 9 weeks, PS5 has sold more than half of 2022's entire 52 week hardware total.

I would love to see them slowly invest more in Japan, I mean it's still the 3rd single largest market (someone correct me if I'm wrong). 350K consoles sold in a month is NPD levels of hardware sales.

 

[mckmas8808]

A lot less, something like 6% to 8%.

This can't be true. Can it? I thought Spain was 3rd biggest in video game country in the EU.

 

[Ronin_7]

PS5 about to sell 3M this year alone at this rate

 

[Ronin_7]

Yeah but it's slowing down faster than anticipated. Likelihood of PS5 reaching PS4 in the end is shrinking fast.

Don't skip school kids.

 

[poodaddy]

I love that Kirby is doing so well for Nintendo these days. Always been one of my favorite franchises, going all the way back to Dreamland on Game Boy. It's just a great, fun series that literally anyone can pick up and enjoy.

Now hurry up and do a great port of Planet Robobot Nintendo. Me want.

 

[Kataploom]

It's a remake.

But how a remake of a Ps4 game on PS4? That's what doesn't make sense to me

 

[jm89]

If they can hold 90k+ weekly for the rest of the month, this quarter japan alone would have contributed 960K+ in sales. I don't think anyone expected that.

Increasing their expected shipment numbers for the quarter did get a few raised eyebrows, but not looking that ferfetched if other regions can keep up.

 

[TheTony316]

This can't be true. Can it? I thought Spain was 3rd biggest in video game country in the EU.

The 3 biggest EU markets are UK, Germany and France in no particular order.

 

[mckmas8808]

PS5 about to sell 3M this year alone at this rate

You laughing.......but at this rate it actually might. Anything else that Japan likes outside of FF XVI and Spiderman 2 coming out this year?

 

[[Sigma]]

But how a remake of a Ps4 game on PS4? That's what doesn't make sense to me

It was never released in the west.

 

[mckmas8808]

The 3 biggest EU markets are UK, Germany and France in no particular order.

Oh wow, so if Spain really is less than 10% of all EU sales, then PSVR2 might have sold 100,000 units in the first week then. Unless.......Spain likes VR more than other countries.

 

[TheTony316]

Oh wow, so if Spain really is less than 10% of all EU sales, then PSVR2 might have sold 100,000 units in the first week then. Unless.......Spain likes VR more than other countries.

I don't know about VR but i'm sure Spain is the 5th largest European market after Italy.

 

[Bonsaibäumchen]

How is it slowing down, its now outpacing the PS4 and growing

I wanna see the PS2 in that chart. That one was a monster afaik.

 

[MrA]

But how a remake of a Ps4 game on PS4? That's what doesn't make sense to me

Original game was on the same engine as the ps3 yakuza games, this is a complete redo on unreal and inshin is 9 years old

 

[Mr Moose]

This can't be true. Can it? I thought Spain was 3rd biggest in video game country in the EU.

In terms of countries, the UK was the No.1 games market across Europe (game sales down 6% year-on-year), followed by Germany (game sales down 13%), and then France (game sales down 3%). Both Spain (up 1%) and Italy (up 2%) saw an increase in game sales year-on-year.

 

[TheTony316]

But how a remake of a Ps4 game on PS4? That's what doesn't make sense to me

The original was basically a PS3 game. The PS4 version had nothing to offer other than the usual (higher res, better textures etc) The remake is a "proper" PS4 game running on UE4.

 

[Bonsaibäumchen]

Oh wow, so if Spain really is less than 10% of all EU sales, then PSVR2 might have sold 100,000 units in the first week then. Unless.......Spain likes VR more than other countries.

https://newzoo.com/insights/rankings/top-10-countries-by-game-revenues

Dunno how trustworthy this is but according to this chart spain seems to be at fifth place (tops) currently in EU.

According to wikipedia data from 2021
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_markets_by_country

 

[Kadve]

Who knew. Having stock means people can actually buy your thing.

 

[Baki]

You laughing.......but at this rate it actually might. Anything else that Japan likes outside of FF XVI and Spiderman 2 coming out this year?

RE4 Remake in March.

FF VII part 2 but that might be a Jan-Mar 2024 game.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

You are misreading.

The growth rate is shrinking. You're taking a chart about overall sales trends.

Example, if growth is 90% and then drops to 40%, that's still 40% growth over the predecessor, but that's a 50% reduction and that questions stability in the long.

I said it was shrinking and slowing down fast, not that the PS5 was falling behind the PS4 as you interpreted.



No, but you read what I said incorrectly.

You're conveniently ignoring that PS5 had severe supply constraints throughout most of 2022 in Japan.

Which would have both affected its growth and caused the very thing you're describing. Now that supply is stabilizing, we're seeing it track ahead of PS4 and it looks like it will be trending ahead of PS4 week-over-week for the foreseeable future.

You have a very weird and flawed read of that chart.

 

[T_T]

RE4 Remake in March.

FF VII part 2 but that might be a Jan-Mar 2024 game.

For Rebirth, when they said Winter they definitely meant end of winter and not December. I expect it to get a 3 month delay (as is common with all AAA games now), so probably May 2024. Which in my opinion is good. No need to cram 2 mainline Final Fantasy games in the same year. Give them some room to breathe and more polish is always good. Though it will push the game (and the consoles that it would sell) into the next FY.

 

[onQ123]

Only on NeoGAF could you witness someone saying that PS5 growth is slowing down when it just sold 600k in Japan in the last 2 months.

That's over 20% of it's life time sales in the first 2 months of this year.

 

[mckmas8808]

For Rebirth, when they said Winter they definitely meant end of winter and not December. I expect it to get a 3 month delay (as is common with all AAA games now), so probably May 2024. Which in my opinion is good. No need to cram 2 mainline Final Fantasy games in the same year. Give them some room to breathe and more polish is always good. Though it will push the game (and the consoles that it would sell) into the next FY.

I read it as March 2024, since that's still the "Winter Time".

 

[Raonak]

PS5's resseruction in japan is fascinating. I guess it really was stock related, because there's nothing released that should cause this much of a bump.

 

[DeepEnigma]

OT (Spain)


Spain, Week 8
PS VR2 8,000
PS5 7,500
NSW 3,000
X/S 1,500

Spain, 2023
PS5 67K
NSW 65K
X/S 9K

Damn, PSVR2, good shit.

 

[remember_spinal]

PS5's resseruction in japan is fascinating. I guess it really was stock related, because there's nothing released that should cause this much of a bump.

In Japan and everywhere else. I'm not sure why people were convinced for the past two years it was anything but stock issues when scalping prices were through the roof

 

[T_T]

I read it as March 2024, since that's still the "Winter Time".

Yup. Hopefully 4 full years of dev are enough for a satisfying sequel to Remake. Also, Nomura said last June that work on the third game is already underway. Pre-production and concept stuff no doubt, but gives hope that the team can seamlessly move to the next game without much downtime.

 

[Captain Toad]

Only on NeoGAF could you witness someone saying that PS5 growth is slowing down when it just sold 600k in Japan in the last 2 months.

That's over 20% of it's life time sales in the first 2 months of this year.

Who said that?

 

[onQ123]

Who said that?

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/fami...n-the-software-charts.1653713/#post-267679334

 

[Mung]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/fami...n-the-software-charts.1653713/#post-267679334

A comedic failure in understanding how statistics and trends work.