PaleFolklore
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I don't know how much I want to play this given the current political climate. Hits a bit too close to home
I'm kind of bummed out that they aren't hyper-conservative christians.
Christian ISIS oxymoron because Christ forbid any evil (i.e., dehumanizing any person made in God's Image) done in his name.
I really think it's a missed opportunity that it's not releasing this fall.
So far there isn't any big blockbusters releasing this fall besides CoD, Destiny and Star wars.
I'm arguing for them to have the setting make LOGICAL sense within their own game world.
Playing as a cop, you see a group of people going around killing random people, hauling them off, kidnapping them, you would NOT go John T. Rambo on them and team up with local "hillbillies," You'd be calling the ATF and getting legit trained professionals to help put an end to it.
It takes you out of the setting if they simply ignore logical things and sweep it under the rug, thus hurting the immersion and entire point of that setting int he first place.
I'm not saying the actual gameplay has to be realistic, but the story/setting and having the characters act logically is what can help sell the story to the player.
Also if you read any of the links you provided it clearly states that the "group" wasn't going around doing violence, rather it was single people and they almost always got ARRESTED for doing said things.
Imagine if the entire group was going out, in the open, in a city and attacking/kidnapping people, taking over an entire towns do you think the government is going to IGNORE that or just have some lone ranger sheriff fight them? No, that's the entire point of having the ATF and similar agencies...As a cop you wouldn't SEE that kind of thing happening and then go "whelp, I should make friends with the local hillbilly groups and turn them to fight this group, I should definitely NOT call for help....
I'm kind of bummed out that they aren't hyper-conservative christians.
Dear LordChristian ISIS oxymoron because Christ forbid any evil (i.e., dehumanizing any person made in God's Image) done in his name.
Didn't stop the crusades
"God hates hypocrisy. He is especially outraged by religious hypocrisy, when religion itself is used as a cover. And God is never deceived. He is angry, Isaiah declared, "Because this people draw near with their words And honor me with their lip service, But they remove their hearts far from Me" (Is 29: 13). It is this radical critique of the Jewish Scriptures that Jesus sharpened even further. He used a straightforward and descriptive word that was the Greek word for "acting or playing a part on a stage," but gave it the explosively charged moral meaning that it has had in the Western world ever since— thanks to him. Jesus opened his withering fire on three kinds of hypocrisy. The first is the hypocrisy of pretense, when we put up the front of being better than we really are. ("So when you give to the poor, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and the streets, so that they may be honored by men" [Mt 6:2].) The second is the hypocrisy of blame and judgmentalism, when we criticize others despite moral faults of our own. ("Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?" [Mt 7:3].) And the third is the hypocrisy of inconsistency, when we lay down moral requirements for others that we do not apply to ourselves. ("But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from people; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in themselves" [Mt 23:13].)" (Os Guinness, Guest Scholar at the Woodrow Wilson Center and a Visiting Fellow at the Brookings Institution)
"Man's love of truth is such that when he loves something which is not the truth, he pretends to himself that what he loves is the truth, and because he hates to be proved wrong, he will not allow himself to be convinced that he is deceiving himself. So he hates the real truth for what he takes to his heart in its place." (Saint Augustine)
Sounds familiar doesn't it?Agreed. 2000 years of church history is full of example of people claiming to follow Jesus, but contradicting that claim by not loving their neighbors as themselves.
Christian ISIS oxymoron because Christ forbid any evil (i.e., dehumanizing any person made in God's Image) done in his name.
Yeah this is me too. While I can't relate to cultisism I live in a secularised country with an old foundation in christianity, with so many immigrants from muslim countries and the recent terror attacks all over the world the whole climate regarding religions of any kind has gone toxic, especially among younger people which are often uninformed and hateful and way too fast to find a scapegoat. I'm not sure I want to play a game with religious cultisism as a theme right now. :/I don't know how much I want to play this given the current political climate. Hits a bit too close to home
What's unrealistic is there being a black guy in Montana at all. Like less than half of one percent of the population there is black.Is that a black guy in this dude's congregation? I mean, I know video games aren't usually very realistic, but come on.
Christian ISIS oxymoron because Christ forbid any evil (i.e., dehumanizing any person made in God's Image) done in his name.
Erasing an entire people from their land would causes even more of a backlash
Deus vult!Christian ISIS oxymoron because Christ forbid any evil (i.e., dehumanizing any person made in God's Image) done in his name.
The premise is a stretch
I tried to explain it above. I'm not afraid of religions, I know that one evil queen can make a whole hive of otherwise calm bumble bees aggressive, (Seen it myself), it's just that religious cultisism is too close to what we're dealing with in real life right now with the terror attacks and aggression toward religions in general because of that. It's just not a theme I'm particularly interested in for entertainment right now.The co-op mode sounds awesome. The game looks great. Love the setting.
Not sure why everyone is wanting and hoping for it to drive some kind of political narrative against American Christian Conservatives. As an American, Christian and small "c" Conservative I'm looking forward to exacting justice against fundamentalists. Also, its a game, its fiction, and every "group" has bad players. Nothing about this game makes me upset.
these versions of the trailers aren't censored, I think they should be posted on OP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZs9WfyHIG0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwSJaHUNAtE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcXZxugWqUQ
Ironic that videos about a game set in America, aren't available to Americans. Blasphemy.
Christian ISIS oxymoron because Christ forbid any evil (i.e., dehumanizing any person made in God's Image) done in his name.
Yeah this is me too. While I can't relate to cultisism I live in a secularised country with an old foundation in christianity, with so many immigrants from muslim countries and the recent terror attacks all over the world the whole climate regarding religions of any kind has gone toxic, especially among younger people which are often uninformed and hateful and way too fast to find a scapegoat. I'm not sure I want to play a game with religious cultisism as a theme right now. :/
Imagine if the entire group was going out, in the open, in a city and attacking/kidnapping people, taking over an entire towns do you think the government is going to IGNORE that or just have some lone ranger sheriff fight them? No, that's the entire point of having the ATF and similar agencies...As a cop you wouldn't SEE that kind of thing happening and then go "whelp, I should make friends with the local hillbilly groups and turn them to fight this group, I should definitely NOT call for help....
I hope we get to pick the gender/color of our main protagonist, maybe have different voice overs for each. I want the game to concentrate mainly on destroying the cult family members in depth, rather than a personal quest of revenge.
You're in luck! This is a confirmed feature.
What's unrealistic is there being a black guy in Montana at all. Like less than half of one percent of the population there is black.
Kind of reminds me of Justified crossed with Far Cry.
lol maybe he's THE Black Guy
This is in Sweden, I could write a lot about it but in short now, uninformed hateful people basically blame immigrants and the open borders we had earlier for many problems we're facing right now, including the terror attack in Stockholm awhile ago, it's not something that is said openly because of a certain big political party that is negative toward immigrants and people don't want to take their side openly but you hear it all the time outside of the media. It may not be logical but as usual religion in general gets attacked for being a cause for many problems instead of the evil people who's using religion to gather people to help them with their evil plans. To each their own I guess but religious extremism is not a great theme for entertainment right now imo.What the fuck has there being Muslim immagrants in your country got to do with anything?
This is in Sweden, I could write a lot about it but in short now, uninformed hateful people basically blame immigrants and the open borders we had earlier for many problems we're facing right now, including the terror attack in Stockholm awhile ago, it's not something that is said openly because of a certain big political party that is negative toward immigrants and people don't want to take their side openly but you hear it all the time outside of the media. It may not be logical but as usual religion in general gets attacked for being a cause for many problems instead of the evil people who's using religion to gather people to help them with their evil plans. To each their own I guess but religious extremism is not a great theme for entertainment right now imo.