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Do you even know what these two terms mean? They get thrown around so often without a single source. Goddamn.
FBI: Clinton "never deleted, nor did she instruct anyone to delete, her e-mail"
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TestOfTide
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My point is that I am asking what realistically could Hillary do to actually make people like MIMIC and yourself trust her at least as much as someone like Obama.
Like she doesn't hold office right now, so literally all she CAN do right now is make statements about her plans.
BlastProcessing
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It was Flavor Aid, not Kool-Aid. If you are going to glibly mention the mass murder of 909 people to attack a politician, the least you can do is get it right.
Norway?
The primarily oil based economy with some of the lowest corporate tax rates in the developed world?
Tell me more about this Norewegien socialist utopia.
Here's the thing, they do have a source, its all the other corrupt fucks out there. But because they have no actual proof of wrong doings, just optics, unlike all those other corrupt fucks, people infer, just like with steroid use, that there is no way she isn't on the take. But again, we have years of bills and policy that show everything she says now, is what she's been pushing for since she was a teenager. So the sheep, ironically, are the folks who believe everything said about her.
Which is funny because she's the most liberal Presidential candidate in history.
No, it's a reality post. The fact that people willfully ignore the exposure of Hillary Clinton and the establishment just because she s a 'democrat' baffles me. I don't play teams, I am independent. The system as it is remains a running joke. Good luck with that shit.
Melkezadek
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Do you realize that all your posts completely lack any substance whatsoever?
BlastProcessing
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1. Define "Establishment" for me.
2. Independant is a team. You don't get to seperate yourself for this.
What are the alternatives? And why is the system a joke?
Of course it is an oil rich country. It is also recommended as one of the best places to live every year. Oh, take a look.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/31/norway-greatest-place-on-earth_n_4550413.html
All of your talking points are from the right wing hate machine, of which Fox News is a part of, itself being the highest rated news network. So ironically, you are listening to the MSM media while trying to rebel against them. Good luck in your pastures.
Maybe if you are a white person.
Look at the population makeup and look at the various problems that have sparked up because of refugees.
LMAO. I am about as far from right wing bullshit as it gets. I am on neither side and want democratic socialism. Read up on Scandinavia and why it is considered the best place to live every year.
You should learn to self reflect, instead of deflect.
Suikoguy
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I always find it amusing it's people outside the US that know the US political system and candidates better than those who actually live there.
Melkezadek
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I feel like I'm looking at the Bernie-or-Buster incarnate.
Aaronology
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What is "the establishment" and what specific corruption are you referring to vis a vis Hillary Clinton. Please add some meat to your posts, Ironcreed.
This is a particularly odd complaint. You're pointing to a somewhat similar case of an ambassador violating the rules, who wound up resigning, but you seem to be ignoring the fact that Hillary herself....has resigned.
Here's what I want to know: what do you think was compelling Hillary to send allegedly thousands of classified e-mails to begin with?
Shut up, you don't know what you are, anyone who considers Clinton corrupt because of, you know, all the evidence that she's corrupt, is alt-right/rightwinger.
These aren't stupid fucking false dilemmas here corporate media and the establishment has been spoonfeeding these liberals for years this is the reality, man.
Persecution complex is never a good look.
Yes, I am white. Should I apologize? But yeah, the refugees will NOT assimilate into what is a beautiful culture. Just as you are expected to do when you enter any country.
Sorry, there is not going to be some utopia where everyone erases borders and holds hands around a campfire. That policy has proven to be a disaster and facts back it up. If you can't see that then you are blind as a bat. I'm out of here and will be eating popcorn with the rest of the world come November when Hillary gets elected regardless.
It's not persecution complex when you're being accused right to your face.
Aaronology
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There are undoubtedly many people outside of the States who are intimately familiar with American politics on a level beyond the average American. But you seem to be claiming that foreigners in general are more knowledgeable of US politics than US citizens, and that seems to be a fairly inaccurate and insulting argument.
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Melkezadek
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It's crazy how you keep ignoring the posts that ask you to clarify anything. You're full of shit.
Careful, those broad strokes you're painting are getting everywhere.
You were accused of being a nazi for criticizing Hillary Clinton?
Aaronology
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...um, no one is asking you to apologize for being white, Ironcreed, but merely reminding you to broaden your perception and opinions to include experiences of those who are not.
....bye.
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...bye.
Morrigan Stark
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Heres the thing: the Scandanavian countries don't have democratic socialism. The workers do not own the means of production in those countries, and the economy is a market one.
What they do have is social democracy, which is an entirely different thing.
Damn, that guy did dishonor to his Lagertha avatar.
Melkezadek
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People need to understand there is a difference between "critizing " Clinton and regurgitating right-wing bullshit that has been argued/debunked over and over again.
When they get called out on it, the persecution "I can't be critical of Clinton" complex rears its ugly head. Every time.
When they get called out on it, the persecution "I can't be critical of Clinton" complex rears its ugly head. Every time.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Oops, I could see how you read that the opposite of the way it was intended.
Let me try again;
I've lost count the number of posters (who oftentimes don't clarify where they are from) enter these political threads with VERY strong opinions, with little to backup their opinions when pressed.
I'll admit that some non-US posters do fully get the intricacies of US Politics, but it's certainly not a coin flip of chance
Mighty Chin
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I saw that earlier. Pretty funny
I just want to point out how this dude claimed to be so fucking above the fray and able to see right through medias lies, and then posts this garbage.
...is the best it's ever been?
Yes, it's an inference that I'm making; a perfectly valid one. One that most people are drawing based on Comey's words in fact. Even the New York Times believes that his words could be interpreted generally (and not strictly "FBI = FBI")
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It's a suggestion.
You don't think that the person asking the question of Comey isn't trying to draw a parallels and make suggestions about the closeness of the FBI and the State Department in this context? And you don't think that Comey realizes this? And I would think it incumbent of him to clarify how "fundamentally differently" these department operate (based on these distinctions that you are drawing)...lest people think that he's suggesting that discipline at the FBI (regarding the mismanagement of classified material) would be similar to that of the State Department.
Take for instance this exchange between Robert Siegel (NPR host) and Susan Hennessey (former NSA lawyer)
NPR discussion
Now why do you think she they brought up the CIA (like how Comey and the the person asking him questions brought up the FBI)? Just for no apparent reason? Because they want to discuss how fundamentally different the CIA is from the State Department? No, because they're drawing parallels between the two since they both operate at the top of the government, and thus disciplinary actions for the same issues are likely to be similar at both departments.
And with that said, they addressed Clinton specifically:
So I don't see how you don't think that all these people aren't trying to make implications and suggestions here.
As far as the EPA is concerned, I'm not sure why you think mishandling sensitive information there would be treated any differently than it would be at the FBI. Do they allow for more carelessness when it comes to mismanaging classified information? I doubt it.
Well I don't know what you mean by "coordinated" but I think it's a fair assumption that there is no fundamental difference between how seriously each department treats the mishandling of classified/sensitive material, especially since we're talking about the State Department.
I don't understand this. A private server is considered an even worse infraction than just a commercial email account. Not to mention that both ignored clear policy not to do so (which is what made it a problem).
He was fired, which is why I put "resigned" in quotes.
I don't know. Rebuilding trust is more of a process rather than a checklist. For starters, she could be more transparent, like doing another thing that people are sick of hearing about
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FunkyMunkey
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i know you're banned but i hope you reflect on how edgy and misguided you are at your next poli sci 101 class
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